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Agree. The fact that Jesus was accused of breaking the Sabbath and Jesus never sinned, that in itself means Jesus kept the Sabbath. I think we all should because this is our Saviors chosen day. Exodus 20:8-11 He said its a sign between Him and His people Ezekiel 20:20
God bless!
Not sure what translation your using but Exodus 20 does not say the seventh day of the week.
They had a preparation day before the Sabbath day, so that food could be prepared the day before. That means no shopping or cooking on the Sabbath day. It is not a stretch of the imagination to understand that if cooking is prohibited. Then virtually all other activity would be likewise restricted.When God gave the commandment not to work on the Sabbath the Jews had to contemplate what that meant by “work”. So they began to define what they considered to be “work” and forbid people to do these things according to the Mosaic Law. The actual commandment of God in Exodus 20 does not define what God considered as work.
It's not a sin to eat on Sabbath.No, it means Jesus never sinned, even when He was healing people and permitting His disciples to eat grain on the Sabbath.
Why do you and others keep interpreting OT law as though it applies to those of us (Christians) who are not under law but under grace?
Exodus 20 was not written to those of us who are not OT Jews.
However, Jesus clearly said "If you had known what this means: ‘I want mercy and not sacrifice,’ you would not have condemned the innocent. For the Son of Man is lord of the Sabbath.” Matthew 12:7-8
Jesus is clearly saying that keeping the Sabbath is not a legal requirement. He controls the Sabbath observance; He is not bound by any commandment to do so.
They had a preparation day before the Sabbath day, so that food could be prepared the day before. That means no shopping or cooking on the Sabbath day. It is not a stretch of the imagination to understand that if cooking is prohibited. Then virtually all other activity would be likewise restricted.
The Sabbath was a day of rest from all forms of labor. Even walking was restricted to a certain distance on the Sabbath day. The only exception to this Sabbath rule were the activities of the Levitical priesthood.
Jesus being the Great High Priest performed His work on the Sabbath day. Jesus preached, taught, healed, travelled, on the Sabbath day. Jesus was in obedience to a much higher authority, His Father. Jesus worked every Sabbath day in His ministry.
Working on the Sabbath was punishable by death as per God’s commandment.
“The Lord spoke to Moses, saying, “But as for you, speak to the sons of Israel, saying, ‘You shall surely observe My sabbaths; for this is a sign between Me and you throughout your generations, that you may know that I am the Lord who sanctifies you. Therefore you are to observe the sabbath, for it is holy to you. Everyone who profanes it shall surely be put to death; for whoever does any work on it, that person shall be cut off from among his people. For six days work may be done, but on the seventh day there is a sabbath of complete rest, holy to the Lord; whoever does any work on the sabbath day shall surely be put to death.”
Exodus 31:12-15 NASB1995
So before Christ’s ministry keeping the Sabbath was a legal requirement, but I do believe He has given us freedom from that legal obligation and I believe Romans 14 is a prime example of that.
If you trust Jesus, you do what Jesus tells you to do.
You can do what Jesus said to do, (10 commandments) (OT Law), and die and go to hell.
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And Christ's born again disciples, are to "present our bodies a living sacrifice".
Jesus said..."you must be born again". as that proves you have What Jesus said is FINISHED, 2000 yrs ago.
What is Finished?
Answer: All that was necessary for Jesus to literally become
the Passover Lamb slain before the creation of the world.
The original Greek is in (parentheses)...
Matthew 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be (ginomai) fulfilled.
Matthew 24:34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be (ginomai) fulfilled. 35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but My words shall not pass away.
Ginomai is "generated", according to Strong's.
John 19:28 After this, Jesus knowing that all things were now (teleo) accomplished, that the scripture might be (teleioo) fulfilled, saith, I thirst.
19:29 Now there was set a vessel full of vinegar: and they filled a spunge with vinegar, and put [it] upon hyssop, and put [it] to His mouth.
19:30 When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, He said, It is (teleo) finished: and He bowed His head, and gave up the ghost.
That this scripture might be fulfilled:
Exodus 12:21 And Moses called all the elders of the children of Israel, and said to them, Go away and take to yourselves a lamb according to your kindreds, and slay the passover. 22 And ye shall take a bunch of hyssop, and having dipped it into some of the blood that is by the door, ye shall touch the lintel, and shall put it upon both door-posts, even of the blood which is by the door; but ye shall not go out every one from the door of his house till the morning. ... 26 And it shall come to pass, if your sons say to you, What is this service? 27 that ye shall say to them, "This passover is a sacrifice to the Lord, as He defended the houses of the children of Israel in Egypt, when He smote the Egyptians, but delivered our houses."
This text proves that hyssop was needed for the service of the Passover.
Jesus came to fulfill all that was written of Him concerning His first advent.
Matthew 26:12-13 For in that she hath poured this ointment on My body, she did [it] for My burial. Verily I say unto you, Wheresoever this Gospel shall be preached in the whole world, [there] shall also this, that this woman hath done, be told for a memorial of her.
This ointment is (myrrh). Myrrh and Frankinsense came from the wise men of (anatole) [Greece literally called Anatolia "the east"]... Smyrna, one of two blameless churches in Asia (anatolia), is (Myrrh). Frankinsense is (libanos), translated Lebanon.
Please quote me where I said Jesus had to keep 613 commandments. Maybe you can provide scripture where it says 613 commandments.
Jesus said He kept His Father's commandments, I believe Him, do you? John 15:10
Jesus quoted from God's Ten commandments Mathew 19:17-19 (not 613) that His Father and ours wrote with His own Finger Exodos 20 and told us it was an eternal covenant Psalms 89:34. Jesus told us it is important to keep these commandments. I believe Jesus and so should everyone. God bless.
Enter Into Life
1. Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. (Matt.22:37)
2. Thou shalt do no murder,
3. Thou shalt not commit adultery,
4. Thou shalt not steal,
5. Thou shalt not bear false witness,
6. Honour thy father and mother,
7. Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. (Matt.19:18)
Matthew 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to (pleroo) cram full. 18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be (ginomai) come into being. 19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the Kingdom of Heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach [them], the same shall be called great in the Kingdom of Heaven. 20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed [the righteousenss] of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven. (Matthew 23:25)
And Continue On With Jesus
*-5:21 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment:
5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
*-5:27 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:
5:28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
*-5:31 It hath been said, Whosoever shall put away his wife, let him give her a writing of divorcement: (Matthew 19:7-8)
5:32 But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.
*-5:33 Again, ye have heard that it hath been said by them of old time, Thou shalt not forswear thyself, but shalt perform unto the Lord thine oaths:
5:34 But I say unto you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God's throne:
*-5:38 Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth:
5:39 But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.
*-5:43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.
5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
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Deuteronomy 13:3 ... for the LORD your God proveth you, to know whether ye love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul.
I asked for biblical scripture, not the internet. Nor was that the main point to my post.I thought that number was common knowledge, which is why I used the number. (shrug)
613 commandments - Wikipedia
Sure I believe Jesus. But that's not all I think Jesus is talking about when He says He kept His Father's commandments.
Doncha just love hopping between threads that have the exact same theme written by the same guy for the same purpose? yeah, me neither
Knowing that Jesus was Lord of the Sabbath and the Great High Priest also. One can understand passages relating to the Sabbath observance or lack of observance.That’s a very interesting observation on this subject. Thank you I appreciate you pointing that out. I believe that makes very good sense. I wasn’t aware that the priests were permitted to work on the Sabbath.
Knowing that Jesus was Lord of the Sabbath and the Great High Priest also. One can understand passages relating to the Sabbath observance or lack of observance.
Matthew 12:1-5
At that time Jesus went through the grain fields on the Sabbath, and His disciples became hungry and began to pick the heads of grain and eat. But when the Pharisees saw this, they said to Him, “Look, Your disciples do what is not lawful to do on a Sabbath.” But He said to them, “Have you not read what David did when he became hungry, he and his companions, how he entered the house of God, and they ate the consecrated bread, which was not lawful for him to eat nor for those with him, but for the priests alone? Or have you not read in the Law, that on the Sabbath the priests in the temple break the Sabbath and are innocent?
The innocence of the disciples in breaking the Sabbath due to their standing, as priests before the Lord.
The disciples were working on that Sabbath day but were innocent, that is, in the eyes of the Lord of the Sabbath.
Ok did you not say that Jesus didn’t keep the Sabbath?
Jesus said He kept His Father's commandments, I believe Him, do you? John 15:10
This is a legalist interpretation of the Sabbath requirements. Jesus clearly "broke the Sabbath" by healing people and permitting His disciples to eat standing grain -- just two examples.
Jesus said:
John 15:10 If you keep My commandments, you will abide in My love, just as I have kept My Father’s commandments and abide in His love.
I do not need to think on that because the bible tells us to follow Jesus. John 12:26 Jesus was our perfect example for us. Jesus also told us to keep the commandments, just like He did. John 10:15. If we love Jesus we keep His commandments. John 14:15, 1 John 5:3True.
But He was not keeping them to be SAVED or to try not to go to Hell.
Think on that.
The Sabbath was made for man Mark 2:27. 3
Thats correct.
I said that Jesus healed ON the Shabbat, to teach LEGALISTS a lesson.
The shabbat is made for man.
Man is not made for the shabbat.
Jesus is the Lord of The Shabbat, exactly as Jesus is "Lord of All".
True.
But He was not keeping them to be SAVED or to try not to go to Hell.
Think on that.
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