How to prove God exists.

[bhsmte]

Not today readers.

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

... do babies exist at all

They won't if your recurring sex act catches on...

Spoiler: Pachomius, post #1355

... Evidence of sex act with another human male, scil., sperm in anus.

 

[HitchSlap]

 

[Kylie]

An agnostic is an atheist without a backbone.

Now now, AV, I'm quite sure that you have repeatedly been told the difference between an agnostic and an atheist. Why do you keep saying things that you have been told are wrong?

 

[Kylie]

I love how you just ignored the whole appeal to authority fallacy problem.

Yeah, agreeing with a bunch of cosmologists on an issue of cosmology is SUCH a logical fallacy.

Take it back to your own threads.

 

[AV1611VET]

Why do you keep saying things that you have been told are wrong?

Because if I stopped saying everything you guys say is wrong, I'd end up a scientist.

 

[Kylie]

Because if I stopped saying everything you guys say is wrong, I'd end up a scientist.

In other words, being a Christian requires saying things that are wrong, is that what you are saying?

 

[AV1611VET]

In other words, being a Christian requires saying things that are wrong, is that what you are saying?

In today's day and age, yes, that is what I am saying.

Else you'll find yourself operating a jitney or transporting petroleum or a vigilance worker or a ...

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

...Else you'll find yourself operating a jitney or transporting petroleum or a vigilance worker or a ...

And they are clearly not Christian...

 

[Subduction Zone]

I don't hate atheists, I just disagree with their atheist view.

About Einstein, I understand perfectly where he stood in reference to God and it wasn't your atheism.
Evidence? Self inflicted-blindness prevents atheists from either seeing it or acknowledging it.

You don't seem to understand that by today's definition, and the way that most atheists defined atheism Einstein was an atheist.

Instead of relying on slanderous and dishonest comics perhaps you should be asking atheists what an atheist is. An atheist is someone that simply lacks a belief in a god or gods. Agnostics are a type of atheist. Just as there are many different sects of Christianity there are different levels of disbelief among atheists. If you asked Einstein if he believed in your God he would give you an emphatic "No."

This may help, but I doubt it:

Letters From Einstein About God (and Toys) Sell for $420,625

'On the issue of God, Einstein dismissed the widely held view that he was a confirmed atheist. "I have repeatedly said that in my opinion the idea of a personal God is a childlike one," he wrote to a man who corresponded with him on the subject twice in the 1940s. "You may call me an agnostic, but I do not share the crusading spirit of the professional atheist. ... I prefer an attitude of humility corresponding to the weakness of our intellectual understanding of nature and of our own being." '

 

[Radrook]

You don't seem to understand that by today's definition, and the way that most atheists defined atheism Einstein was an atheist.

Instead of relying on slanderous and dishonest comics perhaps you should be asking atheists what an atheist is. An atheist is someone that simply lacks a belief in a god or gods. Agnostics are a type of atheist. Just as there are many different sects of Christianity there are different levels of disbelief among atheists. If you asked Einstein if he believed in your God he would give you an emphatic "No."

This may help, but I doubt it:

Letters From Einstein About God (and Toys) Sell for $420,625

'On the issue of God, Einstein dismissed the widely held view that he was a confirmed atheist. "I have repeatedly said that in my opinion the idea of a personal God is a childlike one," he wrote to a man who corresponded with him on the subject twice in the 1940s. "You may call me an agnostic, but I do not share the crusading spirit of the professional atheist. ... I prefer an attitude of humility corresponding to the weakness of our intellectual understanding of nature and of our own being." '

For all practical purposes I like to make a clear line of demarcation between those who aren't sure that God exists-Agnostics and those who are certain that God doesn't exist-Atheists. As for Einstein really being an atheisat, well, he just doesn't seem to fit into my personal definition. In fact, he doesn't even fit into the agnostic one either. So I guess we simply disagree on thus. The cartoon is simply to illustrate the confusion that such quibbling creates.

BTW
I never said that Einstein had the same concept that I have about God.

 

[bhsmte]

For all practical purposes I like to make a clear line of demarcation between those who aren't sure that God exists-Agnostics and those who are certain that God doesn't exist-Atheists. As for Einstein really being an atheisat, well, he just doesn't seem to fit into my personal definition. In fact, he doesn't even fit into the agnostic one either. So I guess we simply disagree on thus. The cartoon is simply to illustrate the confusion that such quibbling creates.

BTW
I never said that Einstein had the same concept that I have about God.

It would appear, you are claiming that atheists claim a god does not exist? If so, you would be wrong and the fact you have been corrected on this endless times and you continue with a strawman, is telling.

 

[HitchSlap]

For all practical purposes I like to make a clear line of demarcation between those who aren't sure that God exists-Agnostics and those who are certain that God doesn't exist-Atheists. As for Einstein really being an atheisat, well, he just doesn't seem to fit into my personal definition. In fact, he doesn't even fit into the agnostic one either. So I guess we simply disagree on thus. The cartoon is simply to illustrate the confusion that such quibbling creates.

BTW
I never said that Einstein had the same concept that I have about God.

IMO, you have resorted to a straw man fallacy. Agnosticism is a statement with regard to knowledge, as in, I can't say a god/s exist. Atheism is a statement of belief, as in, I don't believe god/s exist.

 

[Pachomius]

Dear readers of this thread, on How to prove God exists, out of curiosity I looked up with google the following two phrases:

theists seek psychiatrists’ help
atheists seek psychiatrists’ help

And this is what google turns up, in ANNEX ONE for theists, and ANNEX TWO for atheists [see below in next from me]:

Google: theists seek psychiatrists’ help
About 446,000 results (0.48 seconds)

Google: atheists seek psychiatrists’ help
About 1,290,000 results (0.58 seconds)

So, what does that mean?

Well, the way I see it, atheists seem to be less mentally and emotionally as healthy as theists.


And why?


The way I see it, it’s because atheists have a dissonance between their psychology and their epistemology on the one side, and reality on the other side, due to their relentless but desperate i.e. frustrating and exasperating failure to achieve harmony between their psychology and their epistemology on the one side, and reality on the other side.


That means that atheists suffer from internal conflict between their emotional and mental status on the one side, and the default status of things in the totality of reality which is existence, on the other side.


And existence is the evidence to the reality of God existing in concept as first and foremost the creator cause and the operator cause of the universe and man and everything with a beginning.


Think about that.

 

[Pachomius]

See ANNEXES below for theists and atheists seeking help from psychiatrists.



I have been to many forums founded, owned, and operated by atheists, and the massive hatred and foul speech against God and Christians there from atheists calls for parental guidance for children, like for example a woman atheist there calling God a rat-bastard, and she has babies at least one.


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RE: I am a theist, what do you think of my proof for God existing?

15th November 2016, 16:25

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(15th November 2016, 07:44)Edward John Wrote: God is looking for people who will trust him, obey him and most importantly love him. Trust and faith are key components of love and he is looking for us to demonstrate these traits to the Lord.

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Well, that's *definitely* not Me. I can't trust a god that would allow a hell to exist. Ever. Can't love it, either, and will not obey such a rat-bastard.

Look up, I am a theist, what do you think of my proof for God existing?

I am a theist, what do you think of my proof for God existing?


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Look up Mariosep in atheistforums.org, this poster was suspended for no charges whatsoever, except I suspect, they wanted me to make cash contribution because they think that I was very attached to posting there.


My warning status there has always been "Warning Level: 0%."


See if I am or what is my status there now.


And for the atheist admins and mods there cuss speech is all right, they congratulate each other for cuss language, into mutual reinforcement with foul words exuding hate and rage against God and Christians.


Click this link,

I am a theist, what do you think of my proof for God existing?



Sorry, I am getting carried away, but you atheist colleagues here, you are not into hateful cuss language.



ANNEX ONE

Google: theists seek psychiatrists’ help

About 446,000 results (0.48 seconds)


Search Results


When to Stop JUST Praying and Seek Professional Help; Christian ...


www.christianpost.com/.../when-to-stop-just-praying-and-seek-professional-help-chris...


Mar 27, 2014 - Nearly 50 percent of Christians believe that prayer alone is powerful enough ... Seek Professional Help; Christian Psychologist Offers Guidance.


Should a Christian see a psychologist / psychiatrist? - Got Questions


https://www.gotquestions.org/Christian-psychologist-psychiatrist.html


Answer: Psychologists and psychiatrists are professionals who work in the field of mental ... For Christians, it is best to seek a professional who professes to be a ...


Should Christians Go To Psychiatrists - Jesus-is-savior.com


www.jesus-is-savior.com/Believer's%20Corner/should_christians_go_to_psychiat.htm


Should Christians Go To Psychiatrists. ... The Christian should seek help from God through prayer and Bible study as much as possible. Memorizing scriptures ...


Christians with Mental Health Issues - Should You Talk to Your Pastor ...


www.christiandrugrehab.com/mental-health/christians-mental-health/


After all, you don't want to seek advice from someone who may lead you down the ... to turn can keep you stuck rather than getting the help you need and deserve. ... Christians and non-Christians alike, believe that psychiatric problems are the ...


Should Theists Seek Psychotherapy? | Sciforums


www.sciforums.com › Forums › sciforums.com › The Cesspool


Jun 21, 2009 - 20 posts - ‎12 authors


I don't think it very likely that a theist is going to seek help for believing .... psychiatric help as the evidence describes symptoms of a psychosis ...


The Psychiatric Treatment of the 'Fundamentalist' Patient - Medscape


www.medscape.com/viewarticle/780839


Mar 19, 2013 - She is now seeking advice from Dr. M, a psychiatrist who considers himself ... in God and not in a psychiatrist, who, he says, are mostly atheists.


Psychiatry and Religion,what Psychiatrists and Religion Professionals ...


https://www.linkedin.com/.../httpwwwomicsonlinecomopen-accesspsychiatry-and-reli...


Oct 2, 2015 - Among Christians they also believe in Satanic Possessions as it is mentioned in the Bible [2] and they usually seek Priests help before they go ...


Psychiatry wants to replace Christianity and the church for guidance ...


www.bible.ca/psychiatry/psychiatry-atheistic-anti-christian-religion-priests.htm


As incredible as it may sound, Psychiatry frowns upon seeking advice from a ... For example, since most psychiatrists are atheists who reject the existence of the soul .... that it is a bad thing to take real problems to the church and God for help.


Seeking Psychiatric Help: Debunking Common Misconceptions - Get ...


www.getrealphilippines.com/.../seeking-psychiatric-help-debunking-common-miscon...


May 1, 2015 - Ladies and gentlemen, I have thought it time to discuss a much overlooked topic. Considering everything that's been happening in Philippine ...


Christians in psychiatry - Christian Medical Fellowship


www.cmf.org.uk/resources/publications/content/?context=article&id=1165


From triple helix - autumn 2003 - Christians in psychiatry [pp6-7] ... The indwelling Holy Spirit is our greatest help as we seek to minister healing and restoration.


Searches related to theists seek psychiatrists' help


what does the bible say about psychiatry


what does the bible say about psychology


mental illness in the bible


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12345678910 Next


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Google: atheists seek psychiatrists’ help

About 1,290,000 results (0.58 seconds)


Search Results


How to Find an Atheist Counselor/Therapist - Patheos


www.patheos.com/blogs/wwjtd/2011/12/how-to-find-an-atheist-counselortherapist/


Dec 7, 2011 - As an openly atheist mental health counselor, I am frequently asked, “How can I ... but I believe creates a hardship for freethinkers and skeptics seeking a counselor ... a counselor or psychologist first in order to get a referral to a psychiatrist . If you are looking for help with substance abuse, you'll want to at ...


How to Select a Psychologist or Counselor: A Guide for Atheists ...


www.atheistrev.com/2009/02/how-to-select-psychologist-or-counselor.html


Feb 22, 2009 - Some atheists have had bad experiences seeking counseling or therapy ... They tend to do this to help understand your worldview and not to ...


Recovering From Religion Secular Therapist Project - Frequently ...


Recovering From Religion Secular Therapist Project - Frequently Asked Questions


How do I know a therapist is qualified to help me? ... Many religious schools are graduating psychologists, psychiatrists and social workers who have a religious agenda and all too often seek to steer people back into religion. Courts have ... At the same time, it is difficult to find a therapist who is openly secular or atheist.


What Happens When an Atheist Psychiatrist Treats a Christian ...


https://www.madinamerica.com/.../happens-atheist-psychiatrist-treats-christian-believe...


Feb 9, 2015 - An atheist psychiatrist stated that she had enough understanding of ... another psychiatrist, the Post noted that a number of websites offer to help people ... “For Christians, it is best to seek a professional who professes to be a ...


Atheist Psychiatrist Argues She Can Treat All Patients, Including ...


www.christianpost.com/.../atheist-psychiatrist-argues-she-can-treat-all-patients-includi...


Jan 29, 2015 - A self-described atheist psychiatrist has recently argued that being a ... of their faith community, just like some patients seek a psychiatrist of a ...


Should Christians Go To Psychiatrists - Jesus-is-savior.com


www.jesus-is-savior.com/Believer's%20Corner/should_christians_go_to_psychiat.htm


I'd highly advise you to go see your pastor before you go to a psychiatrist. .... I was saddened to learn that Christopher Reeves (former superman) is an atheist. .... The Christian should seek help from God through prayer and Bible study as ...


Psychiatry wants to replace Christianity and the church for guidance ...


www.bible.ca/psychiatry/psychiatry-atheistic-anti-christian-religion-priests.htm


As incredible as it may sound, Psychiatry frowns upon seeking advice from a ... For example, since most psychiatrists are atheists who reject the existence of the soul .... that it is a bad thing to take real problems to the church and God for help.


Atheists Seek Chaplain Role in the Military - The Escapist


www.escapistmagazine.com › The Escapist Forums › Religion and Politics


Apr 29, 2011 - 25 posts - ‎17 authors


For something that most likely won't even help any more than a normal psychiatrist? What does that paragraph mean, exactly? Anyway, as for ...


Atheists and Mental health (believe, born, priest, scientific ...


www.city-data.com › ... › Religion and Spirituality › Atheism and Agnosticism


Jan 21, 2013 - 10 posts - ‎7 authors


out of South Korea, the psychiatrists conducting this particular study ... Instead, atheists may be more likely to seek a cure from traditional medicine. .... by his nature cannot help himself(which we can demonstrate through this ...


Help keep my beloved atheist alive? - Ask the atheists


www.asktheatheists.com/questions/2099-help-keep-my-beloved-atheist-alive/


Apr 2, 2013 - He is atheistic and I am spiritual and believe in a God. ... So don't suggest he “seek professional help. ... If he is against psychologists, perhaps try with a psychiatrist, who holds a full medical degree, which might sway him to ...


Searches related to atheists seek psychiatrists' help


famous atheist psychologists


non religious therapy


secular therapy


atheist therapist


find a secular therapist


secular counseling


secular marriage counseling



12345678910 Next



[End of ANNEXES]

 

[Pachomius]

Now I will go and see what Michael, a fellow theist like myself, turns up with my question to him about the reality of babies, in re God exists in concept as first and foremost the creator and operator cause of the universe and man and everything with a beginning.


Yesterday at 5:05 AM #1380 Pachomius writes:

Dear Michael, thanks for your comments on evidence, that is very good, but not good enough from the standpoint of the default status of things in the totality of reality is existence.


Let us we two do this exercise, asking each other by turns a question, so that we will focus on reality instead of verbosity to no purpose, but just to cater to our vanity that we are so deep into what, vacuity.


Okay, I will ask you this question, Are babies components of the default status of things in the totality of reality which is existence? that means do babies exist at all, just like the nose in or face?



Okay, dear readers all of you, let us sit back and witness with what and how Michael, a fellow theist here, reacts to my question.




See you guys all tomorrow.


Pachomius, Yesterday at 5:05 AM

Pachomius, Yesterday at 5:05 AM



#1380


[End of quote from Pachomius]

Well, I have not seen Michael around, so I guess he is still putting together his thoughts on evidence with babies, to the existence of God in concept as first and foremost the creator cause and operator cause of the universe and man and everything with a beginning.



See next post from me, we will all including atheists work together to come to God existing from babies existing as evidence to God existing.

 

[Kylie]

In today's day and age, yes, that is what I am saying.

Else you'll find yourself operating a jitney or transporting petroleum or a vigilance worker or a ...

Wow.

Let me just ask you again - in order to be a Christian, you say, one must say things that they know to be false. Is that what you are saying?

 

[Kylie]

Dear readers of this thread, on How to prove God exists, out of curiosity I looked up with google the following two phrases:

theists seek psychiatrists’ help
atheists seek psychiatrists’ help

And this is what google turns up, in ANNEX ONE for theists, and ANNEX TWO for atheists [see below in next from me]:

Google: theists seek psychiatrists’ help
About 446,000 results (0.48 seconds)

Google: atheists seek psychiatrists’ help
About 1,290,000 results (0.58 seconds)

So, what does that mean?

Well, the way I see it, atheists seem to be less mentally and emotionally as healthy as theists.


And why?


The way I see it, it’s because atheists have a dissonance between their psychology and their epistemology on the one side, and reality on the other side, due to their relentless but desperate i.e. frustrating and exasperating failure to achieve harmony between their psychology and their epistemology on the one side, and reality on the other side.


That means that atheists suffer from internal conflict between their emotional and mental status on the one side, and the default status of things in the totality of reality which is existence, on the other side.


And existence is the evidence to the reality of God existing in concept as first and foremost the creator cause and the operator cause of the universe and man and everything with a beginning.


Think about that.

Wow. A single Google search. That's some legit science right there...

 

[HitchSlap]

Dear readers of this thread, on How to prove God exists, out of curiosity I looked up with google the following two phrases:

theists seek psychiatrists’ help
atheists seek psychiatrists’ help

And this is what google turns up, in ANNEX ONE for theists, and ANNEX TWO for atheists [see below in next from me]:

Google: theists seek psychiatrists’ help
About 446,000 results (0.48 seconds)

Google: atheists seek psychiatrists’ help
About 1,290,000 results (0.58 seconds)

So, what does that mean?

Well, the way I see it, atheists seem to be less mentally and emotionally as healthy as theists.


And why?


The way I see it, it’s because atheists have a dissonance between their psychology and their epistemology on the one side, and reality on the other side, due to their relentless but desperate i.e. frustrating and exasperating failure to achieve harmony between their psychology and their epistemology on the one side, and reality on the other side.


That means that atheists suffer from internal conflict between their emotional and mental status on the one side, and the default status of things in the totality of reality which is existence, on the other side.


And existence is the evidence to the reality of God existing in concept as first and foremost the creator cause and the operator cause of the universe and man and everything with a beginning.


Think about that.

Or maybe... religion really screws people up.

 

[Pachomius]

Okay, dear everyone here including atheists, you know babies exist?


Anyway, they are evidence of God existing in concept as first and foremost the creator cause and operator cause of the universe and man and everything with a beginning.


For atheists who do not know babies exist, please do not participate in this thread, because you don’t have the pre-requisite for participating here: it is like you want to take up a course in college, but you have not completed the pre-requisite course, so you don’t or are not eligible to take up that course.

Still when you complete the pre-requisite course, then you can take up that course.


So, dear atheists who do not know babies exist, please go and learn about babies, ask your neighbors who are married and have a family and home, and every morning they bring their kids to school.



So, let us go forth.


Babies exist, yes of course.


But they did not make themselves, so they were caused by other entities to come to existence.


Do we all agree to that, namely, that babies did not cause themselves to come to existence, so they need other entities to cause them to come to existence?


And that makes babies the evidence, one piece of evidence, that God exists, in concept as first and foremost the creator cause and operator cause of the universe and man and everything with a beginning.


At this point, do you want to discuss infinite regress?

Or what objections do you have in regard to evidence with babies, as proof to the existence of God?