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How to prove God exists.

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You are talking about Harry Potter even more. Sure sounds like he must be for real.
Harry Potter will never catch up to Jesus Christ in terms of discussion from my lips.

I could mention him every day for 50 years, and he still wouldn't catch up.
 
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Harry Potter will never catch up to Jesus Christ in terms of discussion from my lips.

I could mention him every day for 50 years, and he still wouldn't catch up.

And you are STILL talking about HP!!! I am fully convinced that HP must be real.
 
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And you are STILL talking about HP!!! I am fully convinced that HP must be real.
I could read Harry Potter's books, take a Harry Potter new convert's class, give 1/10th of my income to J.K. Rowling, work on a bus that busses children to and from Harry Potter get togethers every week, study Harry Potter doctrine, and memorize passages from Potty books for a whole year, and it wouldn't constitute 1/30th the time I spent with Jesus Christ.
 
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I could read Harry Potter's books, take a Harry Potter new convert's class, give 1/10th of my income to J.K. Rowling, work on a bus that busses children to and from Harry Potter get togethers every week, study Harry Potter doctrine, and memorize passages from Potty books for a whole year, and it wouldn't constitute 1/30th the time I spent with Jesus Christ.

You consider those activities as spending time with Harry Potter? That explains a lot!!!
 
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I could read Harry Potter's books, take a Harry Potter new convert's class, give 1/10th of my income to J.K. Rowling, work on a bus that busses children to and from Harry Potter get togethers every week, study Harry Potter doctrine, and memorize passages from Potty books for a whole year, and it wouldn't constitute 1/30th the time I spent with Jesus Christ.
Nor would it constitute 30/30th of the time, for that matter, he's dead.
 
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You consider those activities as spending time with Harry Potter? That explains a lot!!!
I'm sure Danny Rolling J. K. Rowling wouldn't mind.
 
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Dear atheists, this morning I will now just reproduce my proof on evidence for God existing, that will stir up you atheists to think over how to regurgitate your rancid comments against it, to your heart's content: so that you will not repeat that I have no proof on evidence that God exists, in concept as first and foremost the creator cause and operator cause of the universe and man and everything with a beginning; here goes again, verbatim:

Pachomius, Yesterday at 4:35 #1040
Sorry, but I have to continue from the preceding post because I forgot to tell you, dear readers and Oh ye atheists, that I was going to tell you all, what is my proof for God existing, in a few words.

So, here goes:


1, The default status of things in the totality of reality is existence.

2. Existence is of two kinds in the most broad dimensions of existence: necessary existence, transient existence.

3. Transient existence depends on necessary existence to come into existence.

4. Babies, our nose in our face, the sun in the day sky and the moon in the night sky, and the stones, and rivers, and mighty oceans, and everything that we see and we live in and move in and have our existence, they are all things which are evidence for the existence of God, in concept as first and foremost the creator cause and operator cause of the universe and man and everything with a beginning.

5. Therefore God exists as per concept of God, namely, in concept as first and foremost the creator cause and operator cause of the universe and man and everything with a beginning, scil., on evidence.

Okay, atheists, think about this proof above of the existence of God on evidence, in my next post I will look up for Loudmouth and/or KTS, to see whether either or both of them have replied to my posts, the first Loudmouth to resume his and my our common endeavor to talk about what is evidence, what is the target of evidence, and how evidence hits its target, and the second KTS, whether she cares to take up my challenge to her to replace Loudmouth, or even join Loudmouth in contributing her thinking on what is evidence, what is the target of evidence, and how evidence hits its target. And all in all, in regard to the issue God exists or not.

Dear everyone, I will now go to the posts of Loudmouth and KTS to see what they have posted in reply to my latest posting here in this thread also from myself, namely, How to prove God exists.

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That's not a proof, just a set of ill-defined assertions. In particular, there is no logical connection whatsoever between premise 3 and premise 4.

funny though :rolleyes:
 
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Religions are waning, thanks to the internet. It's where they go to die.
Actually it's one of the places Christians were told to go.

Matthew 22:9 Go ye therefore into the highways,
 
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Actually it's one of the places Christians were told to go.

Matthew 22:9 Go ye therefore into the highways,
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There, I have read all the new posts since I was last here in this forum.


And no, there has been no new post from Loudmouth; so, I guess Loudmouth is into another episode of his leave of absence, errh, silence.


I will just talk now about my insights into atheists' ways and means of wrong thinking, in denying God to exist, in concept as first and foremost the creator cause and operator cause of the universe and man and everything with a beginning.


I must ask myself and you all dear everyone here, Why a Christian forum allows and even welcomes atheists to operate here at all?


The way I see it, the founders and owners and workers of any Christian forums that welcome atheists to contribute their sentiments and thoughts in their forums, they have this idealistic and optimistic hope that them atheists having come into the midst of Christians and talking with Christians, them atheists will be affected by God’s grace to see the light from the Holy Spirit by which they will turn to God and get saved, i.e. return to the path toward heaven [for ex-Christians], or take to the Christian faith [for atheists socalled born atheists because the ideologues among atheists who think they are so smart and feel thereby so smug with hot but to the core most empty hubris, them ideologue atheists insist that all babies are born in the default status of atheism – hahahaha] to join them Christians in the path to heaven.


In this regard I am a diy liberal Christian, and I am into this board that is about physical and life sciences, scil., “Home Forums > Discussion and Debate > Physical & Life Sciences,” so I am talking from the standpoint of physical and life sciences, in particular how humans use their brain, even to abuse it as to talk nonsensical vacuity inanities, just so that they will feel themselves to be so smug with absurdities, all from their grudges against God – that should be the proper investigation on atheists, why their grudges against God,



For the way I see them all the time, they have grudges against God, and completely nothing of any decent epistemology by which they can argue with people who are not dwelling in grudges against God, but are intent in the examination of the issue God exists or not, on reason and intelligence and observation, or more expansively: on truths, facts, logic, and the history of ideas.



Okay, dear atheists of all persuasions whatsoever because you want to tell mankind, that you are all different, I tell you, You are all the same, all into nonsensical thinking.



You don’t accept that?



Let me just now not bring in evidence which is my present issue in regard to God exists or not, on EVIDENCE, namely: what is evidence, what is the target of evidence, and how evidence hits its target - but just my armchair psychological analysis of atheists from the way they talk nonsense absurdities.



You atheists, please examine your heart and mind, are you not all into the silly nonsense of always describing yourselves that you just merely lack belief in God, Gods, god, gods, goddesses, deities, divinities, etc., when if you be sincerely and honestly reasonable and intelligent and grounded on observation of the default status of things in the totality of reality is existence, you will just concentrate on the most ambitious God, namely, the God that is in concept first and foremost the creator cause and operator cause of the universe and man and everything with a beginning.



Consider that all your fake arguments are founded on:



Bashing the concept of God by ridiculous insults against God with calling Him funny names, like with Bertrand Russell, more on him later, who started the wicked trend, as an orbiting teapot in space, and now with all atheists, calling God the flying spaghetti monster, etc.



Yes, you will bring up your silly justification with insults on God, that you are just merely into telling mankind that the concepts of God, etc. are all nonsensical.



Is that so?



Well, as you claim to know what are sensical concepts and what are non-sensical concepts, suppose you bring up one concept from people who are certain God exists, and tell me how and why that concept from them is non-sensical in your best epistemological examination.



Next, do you notice at all that all your phoney arguments are at their core, nothing but presenting questions which to you are in your very shallow brain, un-answerable, like for examples:



If God created everything who or what created God?

Can God create a rock so heavy He himself cannot move?



Now, this board is into Physical & Life Sciences, so abstain from bringing in things from the Bible which are not into physical and life sciences, but into beliefs of desert nomads on their God, unless when you want to bring in texts from the Bible, just take them to be their thinking on God in those crude primitive times and climes when most humans have myopic ideas of God, but they do have the core idea correct, God is the creator and operator of everything with a beginning.



That is why the authors of the Bible put it at the very start of the book, the statement:



“In the beginning God made heaven and earth.”



Everytime you want to bring up some primitive idea of the desert nomads, please start with their declaration, In the beginning God made heaven and earth.



Now, please fellow theists of the Christian faith, I am a Christian but of the what I call diy liberal kind, please keep to reason and intelligence and observation of the default status of things in the totality of reality which is existence, in this thread of mine, which into the issue, How to prove God exists i.e. but prescinding from the Bible, or again only insofar as the texts therein are instances of primitive desert nomads’ thinking on the existence of an agent of creation and operation of everything with a beginning, and not as from what is called Revelation (yes, R in upper case).



Okay, dear atheists here, let you and me talk about why you guys have nothing at all of any genuine arguments against God, except insults on His name, and also asking silly questions which you absurdly with your shallow brain imagine smugly but vacuously to be un-answerable.





See you guys again tomorrow.



Wait, what about Bertrand Russell, why he started the trend of making fun of concepts of God, or why like Johnny come lately, he started talking before big audiences or writing to the masses, why He is not a Christian?


Do you know the Lord Russell has a title but no cash, he got married with a girl from a very rich American and very devout Quaker family; so he lived off from his in-laws.


Then he abandoned his wife in order to go into public womanizing, and that is the way he justifies his behavior which is totally contrary to Victorian traditional public social moral values.


You get the idea.


It is no different with the segment of French citizenry who take up with the Nazis and start bashing their fellow compatriot French who remain loyal to their country.


Think about that, I mean the psychology of Bertrand Russell who like Johnny come lately, took to bashing God and the Christian faith.
 
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There, I have read all the new posts since I was last here in this forum.


And no, there has been no new post from Loudmouth; so, I guess Loudmouth is into another episode of his leave of absence, errh, silence.


I will just talk now about my insights into atheists' ways and means of wrong thinking, in denying God to exist, in concept as first and foremost the creator cause and operator cause of the universe and man and everything with a beginning.


I must ask myself and you all dear everyone here, Why a Christian forum allows and even welcomes atheists to operate here at all?


The way I see it, the founders and owners and workers of any Christian forums that welcome atheists to contribute their sentiments and thoughts in their forums, they have this idealistic and optimistic hope that them atheists having come into the midst of Christians and talking with Christians, them atheists will be affected by God’s grace to see the light from the Holy Spirit by which they will turn to God and get saved, i.e. return to the path toward heaven [for ex-Christians], or take to the Christian faith [for atheists socalled born atheists because the ideologues among atheists who think they are so smart and feel thereby so smug with hot but to the core most empty hubris, them ideologue atheists insist that all babies are born in the default status of atheism – hahahaha] to join them Christians in the path to heaven.


In this regard I am a diy liberal Christian, and I am into this board that is about physical and life sciences, scil., “Home Forums > Discussion and Debate > Physical & Life Sciences,” so I am talking from the standpoint of physical and life sciences, in particular how humans use their brain, even to abuse it as to talk nonsensical vacuity inanities, just so that they will feel themselves to be so smug with absurdities, all from their grudges against God – that should be the proper investigation on atheists, why their grudges against God,



For the way I see them all the time, they have grudges against God, and completely nothing of any decent epistemology by which they can argue with people who are not dwelling in grudges against God, but are intent in the examination of the issue God exists or not, on reason and intelligence and observation, or more expansively: on truths, facts, logic, and the history of ideas.



Okay, dear atheists of all persuasions whatsoever because you want to tell mankind, that you are all different, I tell you, You are all the same, all into nonsensical thinking.



You don’t accept that?



Let me just now not bring in evidence which is my present issue in regard to God exists or not, on EVIDENCE, namely: what is evidence, what is the target of evidence, and how evidence hits its target - but just my armchair psychological analysis of atheists from the way they talk nonsense absurdities.



You atheists, please examine your heart and mind, are you not all into the silly nonsense of always describing yourselves that you just merely lack belief in God, Gods, god, gods, goddesses, deities, divinities, etc., when if you be sincerely and honestly reasonable and intelligent and grounded on observation of the default status of things in the totality of reality is existence, you will just concentrate on the most ambitious God, namely, the God that is in concept first and foremost the creator cause and operator cause of the universe and man and everything with a beginning.



Consider that all your fake arguments are founded on:



Bashing the concept of God by ridiculous insults against God with calling Him funny names, like with Bertrand Russell, more on him later, who started the wicked trend, as an orbiting teapot in space, and now with all atheists, calling God the flying spaghetti monster, etc.



Yes, you will bring up your silly justification with insults on God, that you are just merely into telling mankind that the concepts of God, etc. are all nonsensical.



Is that so?



Well, as you claim to know what are sensical concepts and what are non-sensical concepts, suppose you bring up one concept from people who are certain God exists, and tell me how and why that concept from them is non-sensical in your best epistemological examination.



Next, do you notice at all that all your phoney arguments are at their core, nothing but presenting questions which to you are in your very shallow brain, un-answerable, like for examples:



If God created everything who or what created God?

Can God create a rock so heavy He himself cannot move?



Now, this board is into Physical & Life Sciences, so abstain from bringing in things from the Bible which are not into physical and life sciences, but into beliefs of desert nomads on their God, unless when you want to bring in texts from the Bible, just take them to be their thinking on God in those crude primitive times and climes when most humans have myopic ideas of God, but they do have the core idea correct, God is the creator and operator of everything with a beginning.



That is why the authors of the Bible put it at the very start of the book, the statement:



“In the beginning God made heaven and earth.”



Everytime you want to bring up some primitive idea of the desert nomads, please start with their declaration, In the beginning God made heaven and earth.



Now, please fellow theists of the Christian faith, I am a Christian but of the what I call diy liberal kind, please keep to reason and intelligence and observation of the default status of things in the totality of reality which is existence, in this thread of mine, which into the issue, How to prove God exists i.e. but prescinding from the Bible, or again only insofar as the texts therein are instances of primitive desert nomads’ thinking on the existence of an agent of creation and operation of everything with a beginning, and not as from what is called Revelation (yes, R in upper case).



Okay, dear atheists here, let you and me talk about why you guys have nothing at all of any genuine arguments against God, except insults on His name, and also asking silly questions which you absurdly with your shallow brain imagine smugly but vacuously to be un-answerable.





See you guys again tomorrow.



Wait, what about Bertrand Russell, why he started the trend of making fun of concepts of God, or why like Johnny come lately, he started talking before big audiences or writing to the masses, why He is not a Christian?


Do you know the Lord Russell has a title but no cash, he got married with a girl from a very rich American and very devout Quaker family; so he lived off from his in-laws.


Then he abandoned his wife in order to go into public womanizing, and that is the way he justifies his behavior which is totally contrary to Victorian traditional public social moral values.


You get the idea.


It is no different with the segment of French citizenry who take up with the Nazis and start bashing their fellow compatriot French who remain loyal to their country.


Think about that, I mean the psychology of Bertrand Russell who like Johnny come lately, took to bashing God and the Christian faith.
Sounds like you are back at working your way to get banned again.
 
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For Someone who doesn't exist, you guys sure give Him a lot of quality airtime.

Even Rome, which was polytheistic, didn't want to include Him in the equation and invested a lot of their resources in trying to suppress Him.

Just like scientists do today.


I thought your religion was against bearing false witness?
 
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