How to kill Palestinians

[Tanakh]

Horsefeathers, unless you mean forever in a metaphorical sense, which means it is not literally forever, and thus is as OLAM means, an age, a period of time with a beginnign and an end, the end of which is unknown from the perspective of the writer.

Sorry Tanakh, but you have produced no valid evidence to the contrary . . . . just your personal opinion, nothing more.



So you are saying that your scriptures are in error using OLAM for the span of the life of a slave? You are saying that the scriptures are in error for using OLAM to denote a span of time, with a beginning and an end?

For if you are not, you have shot your own argument in the foot, for then OLAM clearly means "an age" and not unending, eternal.

If you are saying the above, then you have again shot your argument in the foot for then you accuse your own scriptures of error, and so one cannot take at face value any such promise of "forever" as you are trying to do here.

So, you are left without any evidence whatsoever for your claim . . .

Nothing, nada, zip!



LOLOL . . . the rampage against those who stand against the policies and ideologies and goals and agenda of ZIONISM cotninues . . character assassination, demonization, slander, etc . . . .

Tanakh, you don't have an original argument of any kind.

You are just repeating the tried and true zionist tactics of defaming your opponents when you can't prove them wrong.

Berstein was right. . . . . Zionists never really try to prove their opponents wrong when the Zionist plans and plots are exposed.


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First of all don't quote a verse that denotes the life span of a slave as you have not provided the verse discussing the promise that G-d gives the land of Israel to us Jews for all time, you are simply trying to use another verse to justify what you want.

 

[GorrionGris]

Nuclear War, Liquidation... curious ideas

 

[Tanakh]

Nuclear War, Liquidation... curious ideas

Yea if Israel was a state in 1939 and if it had nuclear weapons I guarantee you the Holocaust would not of happened. Nuclear war is a last resort and until then it is a deterrent to those who think about destroying Israel.

 

[GorrionGris]

Yea if Israel was a state in 1939 and if it had nuclear weapons I guarantee you the Holocaust would not of happened. Nuclear war is a last resort and until then it is a deterrent to those who think about destroying Israel.

If Israel were a state in 1939 with nukes I guarantee you, you'd have a very weird SF story.

I guess if the Soviet Union have had nukes it would still be around...
wait! they did have nukes

 

[Tanakh]

If Israel were a state in 1939 with nukes I guarantee you, you'd have a very weird SF story.

I guess if the Soviet Union have had nukes it would still be around...
wait! they did have nukes

The Soviet Union did not have people wanting to destroy them (their only major threat in their entire existance was Hitler) and if they would have had them in 1941 they would have used them. What is SF?

 

[Micah68]

If Israel were a state in 1939 with nukes I guarantee you, you'd have a very weird SF story.

I guess if the Soviet Union have had nukes it would still be around...
wait! they did have nukes

Good one!!

 

[Micah68]

LOL

So you are saying being Jewish is a religious thing and not an ethnicity? Having DNA does not guarentee land? In other words all Israelis are religious and following the laws given to Moses?

 

[Tanakh]

So you are saying being Jewish is a religious thing and not an ethnicity? Having DNA does not guarentee land? In other words all Israelis are religious and following the laws given to Moses?

Being Jewish is religious and to a degree ethnic but we are not a separate race. You can be Jewish but that does not mean you are religious. What does DNA have to do with the land of Israel?

 

[Micah68]

Being Jewish is religious and to a degree ethnic but we are not a separate race. You can be Jewish but that does not mean you are religious. What does DNA have to do with the land of Israel?

So you are not claiming to be a descendant of Father Abraham; which by his faith, according to some, is the connection to holding the land?

 

[Tanakh]

So you are not claiming to be a descendant of Father Abraham; which by his faith, according to some, is the connection to holding the land?

What made you think I implied that? All Jews are descended from Abraham and G-d promised him the land for all time.

 

[GorrionGris]

The Soviet Union did not have people wanting to destroy them (their only major threat in their entire existance was Hitler) and if they would have had them in 1941 they would have used them. What is SF?

They had enemies from day 1, till the very last days; muslisms including

(including the, then so-called, Afghan freedom fighters)

 

[josuabrown]

I know my opinion won't be popular. Well, here it goes. I feel sorry for the palestinians. Ariel Sharon, on many occasions, has said that Palestinians are dogs and should be treated as such. The Israeli government does not consider Palestinians people. An Israeli actually has the legal right to take a house, business, land, or anything that belongs to a Palestinian if they want it. They can even get away with raping and killing innocent women children. And the UN says Apartheid is dead. Shame on Israel. They have angered God once again with their actions. He has taken away His covering and blessing from them.

 

[Servant222]

Yea if Israel was a state in 1939 and if it had nuclear weapons I guarantee you the Holocaust would not of happened. Nuclear war is a last resort and until then it is a deterrent to those who think about destroying Israel.

The frightening reality is that my understanding is that Muslims believe that suicide missions that take out infidels earns them special favour from Allah- so they would be perfectly happy launching a nuclear strike first, even if it means their own destruction.

So Mutually Assured Destruction (MAD) doesn't provide the same deterrent that it did to the Americans and Russians during the Cold War.

That is why it is so critical to ensure that Iran doesn't acquire nuclear weapons.

 

[GorrionGris]

I know my opinion won't be popular. Well, here it goes. I feel sorry for the palestinians. Ariel Sharon, on many occasions, has said that Palestinians are dogs and should be treated as such. The Israeli government does not consider Palestinians people. An Israeli actually has the legal right to take a house, business, land, or anything that belongs to a Palestinian if they want it. They can even get away with raping and killing innocent women children. And the UN says Apartheid is dead. Shame on Israel. They have angered God once again with their actions. He has taken away His covering and blessing from them.

Well, I think you have gone too far in your criticism of Israel. I won't say the position of the Israeli government is always fair (heck but what government ever is always fair?) but I don't know of any Israeli law that allows you to steal land from legitimate owners...

Neither I think they can get away with raping children and women (though it's the kind of stuff that happens in any war) .

And listen to me. This is very important. God has never, and never will retire permanently his blessings from Israel. Never, because He will do his part even if we don't.

 

[josuabrown]

Sorry. I did go a bit far. There is not an official law. I've heard it's just a {{gov't looks the other way}} standard. It's mostly limited to the West Bank and the Gaza Strip.

 

[GorrionGris]

Sorry. I did go a bit far. There is not an official law. I've heard it's just a {{gov't looks the other way}} standard. It's mostly limited to the West Bank and the Gaza Strip.

Be careful. It's a war zone, and truth is the first victim of any war.

 

[Servant222]

The fact of the matter is that even in the ancient City of David in Jerusalem, the Israelis are fully respecting the rights of Palestinians to live there, despite the fact that they would love nothing better than to reclaim this place that is almost as important as the Wailing Wall to their culture.

The Israeli's have offered to pay full market value to the Palestinians that live there and move them to a new place- but any Palestinian that does accept such an offer is viewed as a traitor, and is likely to suffer serious harm. My understanding is that several Western countries have agreed to accept as immigrants any Palestinian living in the City of David that does in fact agree to sell their land to the Israelis.

 

[GorrionGris]

The fact of the matter is that even in the ancient City of David in Jerusalem, the Israelis are fully respecting the rights of Palestinians to live there, despite the fact that they would love nothing better than to reclaim this place that is almost as important as the Wailing Wall to their culture.

The Israeli's have offered to pay full market value to the Palestinians that live there and move them to a new place- but any Palestinian that does accept such an offer is viewed as a traitor, and is likely to suffer serious harm. My understanding is that several Western countries have agreed to accept as immigrants any Palestinian living in the City of David that does in fact agree to sell their land to the Israelis.

What if Faisal al Husseini, or however the guys name is spelt in English, goes and offer to buy, let's say part a Florida island at its market price so to extend his sovereignty? Would you consider the sellers patriots?

 

[Servant222]

All sorts of foreigners all the time buy land in the U.S.- but that doesn't give them any sort of sovereignty. And when that happens, the sellers are happy- because they usually make some pretty good extra coin.

In the case of the City of David, the main reason the Israelis would like to acquire the land is so they can extend their archeological studies. But it certainly is also an important cultural place- every new Israeli soldier makes a pilgrimage there, as they do to the Wailing Wall and Masada.

 

[GorrionGris]

All sorts of foreigners all the time buy land in the U.S.- but that doesn't give them any sort of sovereignty. And when that happens, the sellers are happy- because they usually make some pretty good extra coin.

In the case of the City of David, the main reason the Israelis would like to acquire the land is so they can extend their archeological studies. But it certainly is also an important cultural place- every new Israeli soldier makes a pilgrimage there, as they do to the Wailing Wall and Masada.

It's in the context of a war, like if a British authority were buying land during 1812, would you give them the benefit of doubt?