How to kill Palestinians

[Micah68]

I agree- except this wasn't Israeli terrorism, as you state, but the actions of one misguided fanatic who was a known troublemaker and army deserter.

You failed to mention that Zada was subsequently beaten to death by the Arab mob that descended on the scene after the attack- that matter is still being investigated with the Palestinians claiming that Zada's murderers should not be held accountable and charged.

You also failed to mention that the action was widely condemned by the Israeli government after the 2005 attack- do you think the Palestinian authorities would have done the same if the roles had been reversed?

I did not fail to mention anything as the link was provided. And yes the Palestinian Authority has condemned such action.

Palestinian Authority president Mahmoud Abbas condemned a suicide bombing attack on Monday which killed at least five people and injured dozens more at a shopping mall in the Israeli city of Netanya. "We will hunt down those responsible for this terrorist attack," Abbas said in a statement, released by the PA in
Ramallah. ( not the first condemnation or last)
http://newsfromrussia.com/hotspots/2005/12/05/69224.html

I am sorry your argument is weak.

 

[Servant222]

And so what about the Zionist Jewish terrorists who did and do similar things, and worse? .

I can't imagine the wrath that God will throw on such terrorists; they are soldiers of satan.

 

[thereselittleflower]

I can't imagine the wrath that God will throw on such terrorists; they are soldiers of satan.

Well, at least we agree that terrorism on either side is wrong.


My concern is that the terrorism perpetrated by some Palestinians is focused on to the exclusion of the terroriusm perpetrated by the Israeli government on the Palestinians in pursuit of the zionist agenda for the salvation/redemption of the land, and this is even a bigger problem for me in that the Palestinains have many less resources to deal with such terrorist activites against them than the Israeli government does, and the Israeli government (and its predecessors) are the instigators in this conflict for reasons already stated.

The greater blame lies with the Israeli government and Zionist terrorists . . . . .

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[Servant222]

I am sorry your argument is weak.

I am equally sorry that some here seem to think that murder and terrorist actions can ever be condoned or justified, and that the actions of the Israeli authorities in trying to respond to terrorism is somehow the greater evil.

If all sides followed the specific commandments of God, there would be no terrorism- assuming, of course, that it is the one true God that they follow, and not satan misleading them.

 

[Servant222]

It is at the end of the day a question of who you believe God is.

The God that I worship is the one who demands love, summarized no better than in Deuteronomy 11:

1 Love the LORD your God and keep his requirements, his decrees, his laws and his commands always.

 

[Servant222]

And in case that doesn't spell it out clearly, then Jesus said it equally well in Matthew 22:

36 "Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?" 37Jesus replied: " 'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.' 38This is the first and greatest commandment. 39And the second is like it: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.' 40All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments."

 

[Carey]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071007/wl_nm/palestinians_israel_rocket_dc


Fire a rocket into an open field and wait for the Israeli reaction.

How to kill even more? Hope it kills some random Israeli who has nothing to do with any of it and cause a massive reaction from Israel.

Make no mistake , the worst enemy of the average Palestinian are these idiots.

Any one who kills their "enemy" and knows the reaction murders their "friends".

Very wise words Gwyned

stubborness kills Palestinians too.

PA insists on East Jerusalem as capital
Recently appointed Palestinian Authority Minister for Jerusalem Affairs Adnan Husseini stated in order to come to any lasting solution in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, any proposed Palestinian state must have its capital in East Jerusalem, “The outline for Jerusalem is very clear, east Jerusalem is for the Palestinians and west Jerusalem is for the Israelis.” The prototype for this division was first proposed by former US President Bill Clinton in the Camp David Accords (2000-2001). Although Israeli PM Ehud Olmert has promised ceding control of Arab neighborhoods in any final settlement, the issue of Arab residents in the Old City remains a larger issue. Husseini refers to the former gesture as “a street here, a street there.” Furthermore, Husseini made no comment about the claim that Olmert and PA Chairman Mahmoud Abbas have agreed to give jurisdiction of the Temple Mount to the Jordanians.
http://us.f500.mail.yahoo.com/ym/Sh...ort=date&pos=0&view=a&head=b&box=Inbox#story2

 

[Carey]

Gwyned you are soooo right.

Palestinians must cut their ties with Hamas and Hizbullah if they want less death among them.

Shin Bet: 7 suicide attacks foiled over the holidays
Although the High Holy Day season is typically a tense time for Israeli security forces, Shin Bet chief Yuval Diskin told the Cabinet that seven Palestinian suicide bombings were thwarted in the past month and a half. Of those security forces managed at the last minute to foil a large-scale terror attack in Tel Aviv, but only after the explosives had successfully passed through several IDF checkpoints without being detected. Diskin also reported the drop in Qassam rockets that have been fired but noted that there has been an increase in weapons being smuggled into Gaza. Meanwhile, IDF intelligence chief Amos Yadlin told ministers that he doubts the ability of Palestinian Authority Chairman Mahmoud Abbas to enforce any settlement in the Hamas controlled Gaza strip. Yadlin stated that if Hamas believed the upcoming Middle East summit to be successful, Hamas would do anything to sabotage it, including launching terror attacks.
http://us.f500.mail.yahoo.com/ym/Sh...ort=date&pos=0&view=a&head=b&box=Inbox#story2​

 

[Servant222]

I have met many wonderful Palestinians- they want peace and security just as much as anyone does.

But how to achieve that is the question- nothing else seems to have worked, so why not embrace non-violence and the rule of law?

When Egypt decided to bravely embrace peace in the Sinai, the tangible results were immediate- billions of dollars in investment flowed into the country, allowing millions of people to have a far better life.

Of course, if you believe that a better life here on earth is not important, then better health, better education, prosperity and peace is irrelevant. You might as well keep doing things that stifle growth and the quest for improvement and prosperity- like bombing and killing and maiming.

I have always believed that my God wants us to have a better life- that is why He gave us the ability to think, to invent, to improve, to compose. So when I see a people that are constantly doing things that invite conflict, that stifle creativity and prosperity, I ask myself "What God are they following?"

In Egypt, the suicide bombing at Sharm el Sheikh in 2004 immediately dried up investment, throwing thousands of Egyptians, especially the wonderful Bedouins, out of work. Anyone who thinks that that was progress had better ask themselves whether they are being deceived by the devil.

If the Palestinians in Gaza embraced peace, my bet is that massive investment would quickly follow, and that Gaza would become another jewel in the Mediterranean. The fact that this is not happening suggests to me that satan, not God, is either too much in control, or deceiving a nation.

 

[Micah68]

I am equally sorry that some here seem to think that murder and terrorist actions can ever be condoned or justified, and that the actions of the Israeli authorities in trying to respond to terrorism is somehow the greater evil.

If all sides followed the specific commandments of God, there would be no terrorism- assuming, of course, that it is the one true God that they follow, and not satan misleading them.

Yes, I too, am equally sad and sorry that there are those who condone terror, humiliation, occupation, land theft, home demolitions, target assassinations, racism and apartheid. All life must be consider equal and worthy of human rights and dignity. You can not judge a whole people be they Israelis or Palestinians by the terrorist actions of the few as the examples given in this thread. The State of Israel is responsible for the 40 + years of (internationally recognized) a brutal, military, dehumanizing occupation of the Palestinian Territories. My God nor my Bible support none of this. My God is a just God that loves all people equally. My Jesus Commanded us to love our God with all our heart and our neighbor as ourself. He did not say just our Christian or just our Jewish neighbor, he said just neighbor meaning every single person friend or foe.
This is the criteria Christ provided us with to apply all teachings by man, if it doesn't match this then it is false.

What say you about your Palestinian brothers and sisters in Christ?

Palestinian Christian groups

Al-Bushra (the good tidings) Center of Bethlehem http://www.al-bushra.org
Center for Rapprochement Between People http://www.rapprochement.org
Annadwa (International Center of Bethlehem) http://www.annadwa.org
Ecumenical Accompaniment Programme http://www.eappi.org/
Episcopal Diocese of Jerusalem http://Jerusalem.anglican.org
The Evangelical Lutheran Church in Jordan & the Holy Land (ELCJHL) http://www.holyland-lutherans.org
Holy Land Christian Ecumenical Foundation http://www.hcef.org
Living Stones of the HLT http://www.livingstonesonline.org.uk/
Middle East Christians http://mideastchristians.virtualactivism.org
Network for Alternative Travel http://www.HolyLandAlternatives.net
Open Bethlehem http://www.openbethlehem.org
Sabeel, Palestinian Ecumenical Liberation Theology Group http://www.sabeel.org
Via Dolorosa http://www.via-dolorosa.net
YMCA East Jerusalem http://www.ej-ymca.org
YWCA in Palestine http://www.ywca-palestine.org/
http://www.wusul.com/

 

[Carey]

I have met many wonderful Palestinians- they want peace and security just as much as anyone does.

But how to achieve that is the question- nothing else seems to have worked, so why not embrace non-violence and the rule of law?

When Egypt decided to bravely embrace peace in the Sinai, the tangible results were immediate- billions of dollars in investment flowed into the country, allowing millions of people to have a far better life.

Of course, if you believe that a better life here on earth is not important, then better health, better education, prosperity and peace is irrelevant. You might as well keep doing things that stifle growth and the quest for improvement and prosperity- like bombing and killing and maiming.

I have always believed that my God wants us to have a better life- that is why He gave us the ability to think, to invent, to improve, to compose. So when I see a people that are constantly doing things that invite conflict, that stifle creativity and prosperity, I ask myself "What God are they following?"

In Egypt, the suicide bombing at Sharm el Sheikh in 2004 immediately dried up investment, throwing thousands of Egyptians, especially the wonderful Bedouins, out of work. Anyone who thinks that that was progress had better ask themselves whether they are being deceived by the devil.

If the Palestinians in Gaza embraced peace, my bet is that massive investment would quickly follow, and that Gaza would become another jewel in the Mediterranean. The fact that this is not happening suggests to me that satan, not God, is either too much in control, or deceiving a nation.

Until the Palestinians stand against Hizbullah amd Hamas they will suffer.

But unless they stand against Islam standing against Hamas and Hizbullah is impossible.

When Muslims are the majority anarchy reigns.

Praise Yahweh that Yeshua will soon return and set everything strait.

 

[Micah68]

I have met many wonderful Palestinians- they want peace and security just as much as anyone does.

But how to achieve that is the question- nothing else seems to have worked, so why not embrace non-violence and the rule of law?

When Egypt decided to bravely embrace peace in the Sinai, the tangible results were immediate- billions of dollars in investment flowed into the country, allowing millions of people to have a far better life.

Of course, if you believe that a better life here on earth is not important, then better health, better education, prosperity and peace is irrelevant. You might as well keep doing things that stifle growth and the quest for improvement and prosperity- like bombing and killing and maiming.

I have always believed that my God wants us to have a better life- that is why He gave us the ability to think, to invent, to improve, to compose. So when I see a people that are constantly doing things that invite conflict, that stifle creativity and prosperity, I ask myself "What God are they following?"

In Egypt, the suicide bombing at Sharm el Sheikh in 2004 immediately dried up investment, throwing thousands of Egyptians, especially the wonderful Bedouins, out of work. Anyone who thinks that that was progress had better ask themselves whether they are being deceived by the devil.

If the Palestinians in Gaza embraced peace,

my bet is that massive investment would quickly follow, and that Gaza would become another jewel in the Mediterranean. The fact that this is not happening suggests to me that satan, not God, is either too much in control, or deceiving a nation.

Your ignorance speaks volumns in these few words, I can remember saying to my husband, in our first years of marriage, 'if only the suicide bombing would stop', I had no clue, no knowledge of the history of the forming of the modern state of Palestine, the suffering the Palestinian people have had to endure. I was ignorant!!
My husband is Palstinian, my children are likewise. Explain to my children why the Israelis had the right to take their Grandfather's orange grove and plow it down to build an illegal settlement. As a Christian, a follower of Christ, a witness for Christ, explain this to my husband.

Gaza is a prison, children are staving, mothers and fathers have to listen to their children crying at night because of fear and starvation, educate they self! http://www.btselem.org/English/Gaza_Strip/


My life in Gaza

By Mona El-Farra | July 10, 2006
THE IRONY IS almost beyond belief. Since the capture of an Israeli soldier on June 25, the Gaza Strip has been subjected to a large-scale military operation, what Israel calls ``Summer Rain." Because Israel bombed the power plant, and the area needs electricity to pump water, most of Gaza now has almost no access to drinking water. In the heat of summer, rain would be a blessing far more welcome than the ongoing bombings.
http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2006/07/10/my_life_in_gaza/

From Gaza With Love

 

[thereselittleflower]

I have met many wonderful Palestinians- they want peace and security just as much as anyone does.

But how to achieve that is the question- nothing else seems to have worked, so why not embrace non-violence and the rule of law?

When Egypt decided to bravely embrace peace in the Sinai, the tangible results were immediate- billions of dollars in investment flowed into the country, allowing millions of people to have a far better life.

Of course, if you believe that a better life here on earth is not important, then better health, better education, prosperity and peace is irrelevant. You might as well keep doing things that stifle growth and the quest for improvement and prosperity- like bombing and killing and maiming.

I have always believed that my God wants us to have a better life- that is why He gave us the ability to think, to invent, to improve, to compose. So when I see a people that are constantly doing things that invite conflict, that stifle creativity and prosperity, I ask myself "What God are they following?"

In Egypt, the suicide bombing at Sharm el Sheikh in 2004 immediately dried up investment, throwing thousands of Egyptians, especially the wonderful Bedouins, out of work. Anyone who thinks that that was progress had better ask themselves whether they are being deceived by the devil.

If the Palestinians in Gaza embraced peace, my bet is that massive investment would quickly follow, and that Gaza would become another jewel in the Mediterranean. The fact that this is not happening suggests to me that satan, not God, is either too much in control, or deceiving a nation.

First Israel has to embrace peace with the Palestinians, give up the IRON WALL policies, and stop their terrorism against the Palestinian peoples in the attempt to fulfill the Zionist ideology and mandate of Salvation/Redemption of the land, requiring the dispossession of the Palestinian people of their land so it can transfer to Jewish possession/ownership.

The reason that Gaza is not a Jewel in the Mediterranean is not because of the Palestinians, but because of Isarel and its IRON WALL policies to accomplish this dispossession so the land can be "SAVED" "REDEEMED" ie ownership transfer to JEWS.

You keep making this all the Palestinians' fault, and its not . . . .

You keep ignoring the facts that show this is Israel's doing, manipulating events and conditions to give the Palestinians no other option but to fight until ALL hope is lost.

Suicide bombings were a turning point in the success of the IRON WALL, for suicide bombings are a sign of hopelessness . . exactly what the IRON WALL seeks to acheive.


Until christians demand that Israel stop all mistreatement of Palestinians, all focus on the palestinians only accomplishes further deflection from the real issue . . .the terrorism and crimes of Israel's zionist regime against the Palestinains.

Focusing on the effects while ignoring the root cause will get us no where except to continue to allow the real situation to be hidden behind a smoke screen, and the truth to continue to be obfuscated.

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[Carey]

First Israel has to embrace peace with the Palestinians, give up the IRON WALL policies, and stop their terrorism against the Palestinian peoples in the attempt to fulfill the Zionist ideology and mandate of Salvation/Redemption of the land, requiring the dispossession of the Palestinian people of their land so it can transfer to Jewish possession/ownership.

The reason that Gaza is not a Jewel in the Mediterranean is not because of the Palestinians, but because of Isarel and its IRON WALL policies to accomplish this dispossession so the land can be "SAVED" "REDEEMED" ie ownership transfer to JEWS.

You keep making this all the Palestinians' fault, and its not . . . .

You keep ignoring the facts that show this is Israel's doing, manipulating events and conditions to give the Palestinians no other option but to fight until ALL hope is lost.

Suicide bombings were a turning point in the success of the IRON WALL, for suicide bombings are a sign of hopelessness . . exactly what the IRON WALL seeks to acheive.


Until christians demand that Israel stop all mistreatement of Palestinians, all focus on the palestinians only accomplishes further deflection from the real issue . . .the terrorism and crimes of Israel's zionist regime against the Palestinains.

Focusing on the effects while ignoring the root cause will get us no where except to continue to allow the real situation to be hidden behind a smoke screen, and the truth to continue to be obfuscated.

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The Jews or the Palestinains puting up an Iron wall??

[FONT=Times New Roman,Times,Serif][FONT=Times New Roman, Times, Serif]"The outline for Jerusalem is very clear," Husseini told The Jerusalem Post. "east Jerusalem is for the Palestinians and west Jerusalem is for the Israelis," he added.[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times,Serif][FONT=Times New Roman, Times, Serif]The division of the city which would leave Jewish neighborhoods under Israeli control and put Arab neighborhoods under Palestinian control was the basis of former US President Bill Clinton's peace plan for Jerusalem which was rejected seven years ago by the late Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat at Camp David.[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times,Serif][FONT=Times New Roman, Times, Serif]The London-based al-Quds al-Arabi Arabic daily reported that Abbas and Olmert have agreed to make Jordan a guardian of Muslim holy sites in Jerusalem, while such an arrangement would be supervised by Jordan, Israel, Egypt, the Palestinian Authority and the United Nations.[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times,Serif][FONT=Times New Roman, Times, Serif]Husseini said that there was "not a problem" between Palestinians and the Jordanians over who would run the Muslim holy sites, noting that such a situation actually exists today and stressing that the problem was over the future of the city.[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times,Serif][FONT=Times New Roman, Times, Serif]Wakf officials declined comment Monday on the report.[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times,Serif][FONT=Times New Roman, Times, Serif]Olmert has said that he is willing to cede at least six outlying Arab neighborhoods in the city to the Palestinians as part of a final peace treaty.[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times,Serif][FONT=Times New Roman, Times, Serif]Husseini however scoffed at such an offer calling it "a street here and a street there."[/FONT][/FONT]

http://us.f500.mail.yahoo.com/ym/Sh...=down&sort=date&pos=0&view=a&head=b&box=Inbox

 

[Servant222]

What say you about your Palestinian brothers and sisters in Christ?

Palestinian Christian groups

Al-Bushra (the good tidings) Center of Bethlehem http://www.al-bushra.org
Center for Rapprochement Between People http://www.rapprochement.org
Annadwa (International Center of Bethlehem) http://www.annadwa.org
Ecumenical Accompaniment Programme http://www.eappi.org/
Episcopal Diocese of Jerusalem http://Jerusalem.anglican.org
The Evangelical Lutheran Church in Jordan & the Holy Land (ELCJHL) http://www.holyland-lutherans.org
Holy Land Christian Ecumenical Foundation http://www.hcef.org
Living Stones of the HLT http://www.livingstonesonline.org.uk/
Middle East Christians http://mideastchristians.virtualactivism.org
Network for Alternative Travel http://www.HolyLandAlternatives.net
Open Bethlehem http://www.openbethlehem.org
Sabeel, Palestinian Ecumenical Liberation Theology Group http://www.sabeel.org
Via Dolorosa http://www.via-dolorosa.net
YMCA East Jerusalem http://www.ej-ymca.org
YWCA in Palestine http://www.ywca-palestine.org/
http://www.wusul.com/

Wonderful- the first church service I went to in Jerusalem was a Christian-Palestinian one.

Those Palestinians living in Israel expressed no concerns or frustrations about how they were being treated; the ones in the West Bank certainly did- their numbers are dwindling as they face more and more opposition from the Muslim majority.

 

[Servant222]

The Jews or the Palestinains puting up an Iron wall??

[FONT=Times New Roman,Times,Serif][FONT=Times New Roman, Times, Serif]"The outline for Jerusalem is very clear," Husseini told The Jerusalem Post. "east Jerusalem is for the Palestinians and west Jerusalem is for the Israelis," he added.[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times,Serif][FONT=Times New Roman, Times, Serif]The division of the city which would leave Jewish neighborhoods under Israeli control and put Arab neighborhoods under Palestinian control was the basis of former US President Bill Clinton's peace plan for Jerusalem which was rejected seven years ago by the late Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat at Camp David.[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times,Serif][FONT=Times New Roman, Times, Serif]The London-based al-Quds al-Arabi Arabic daily reported that Abbas and Olmert have agreed to make Jordan a guardian of Muslim holy sites in Jerusalem, while such an arrangement would be supervised by Jordan, Israel, Egypt, the Palestinian Authority and the United Nations.[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times,Serif][FONT=Times New Roman, Times, Serif]Husseini said that there was "not a problem" between Palestinians and the Jordanians over who would run the Muslim holy sites, noting that such a situation actually exists today and stressing that the problem was over the future of the city.[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times,Serif][FONT=Times New Roman, Times, Serif]Wakf officials declined comment Monday on the report.[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times,Serif][FONT=Times New Roman, Times, Serif]Olmert has said that he is willing to cede at least six outlying Arab neighborhoods in the city to the Palestinians as part of a final peace treaty.[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times,Serif][FONT=Times New Roman, Times, Serif]Husseini however scoffed at such an offer calling it "a street here and a street there."[/FONT][/FONT]

http://us.f500.mail.yahoo.com/ym/Sh...=down&sort=date&pos=0&view=a&head=b&box=Inbox

The rejection of the Camp David accord showed the true colours of the Palestinian leadership- when push came to shove, they rejected a peace plan that would have given them about 98% of what they wanted, and left the rest up to further negotiation and likely international control.

What I find unbelievable is that Mr. Arafat was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize for his efforts at rejecting peace!

 

[Carey]

The rejection of the Camp David accord showed the true colours of the Palestinian leadership- when push came to shove, they rejected a peace plan that would have given them about 98% of what they wanted, and left the rest up to further negotiation and likely international control.

What I find unbelievable is that Mr. Arafat was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize for his efforts at rejecting peace!

I have always heard the squeaky wheel get the grease.

 

[Tanakh]

The point I am making is that this "forever" COMES TO AN END!

Thank you for helping me make this point.

And so, the "forever" of the promise of the land also COMES TO AN END, and did come to an end. There is no more promise. The AGE of the promise is over. Done. Finished, just as the age of the servant's life comes to an end, over, done, finished.

Again, thank you.



No . . . the Iron Wall is not primarily a physical wall, though the wall now being built in Israel/Palestine is a part of the Iron Wall policy.

If you will more carefully read what I have said, you will see that I have already explained why. The treatment of the Arab Palestinians by the zionist settler Jews, as early as the 1800's has created an environment as called for by the Iron Wall, designed to instigate such responses from the Palestinians.

You cannot deny the Iron Wall, or its use to advance th goal of the salvation/redemption of the land of Eretz Israel.

This is the Zionist agenda . . . .

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The promise that G-d made to us Jews in regard to Israel is forever so don't try to prove that it is void by comparing it to the life span of a slave. You will support the "Palestinians" no matter what someone will tell you because you want Israel destroyed so if the treatment of the arabs caused them to rebel then our use of force is justified.

 

[Micah68]

The rejection of the Camp David accord showed the true colours of the Palestinian leadership- when push came to shove, they rejected a peace plan that would have given them about 98% of what they wanted, and left the rest up to further negotiation and likely international control.

What I find unbelievable is that Mr. Arafat was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize for his efforts at rejecting peace!

NOT! Even close, the fact the Arafat did win a Nobel Peace Prize should give you reason to dig a little deeper.
Always verifing your sources.

Barak's "generous" offer

What Barak offered at Camp David was a formula for continued Israeli military occupation under the name of a "state."

The proposal would have meant:

• no territorial contiguity for the Palestinian state,
• no control of its external borders,
• limited control of its own water resources, and
• no full Israeli withdrawal from occupied territory as required by international law.

See maps showing what the Israeli proposals would have looked like in reality on this site.

 

[Tanakh]

Of course; that is what Israel wants you to see and think and feel. . . It doesn't want you to know about its attrocities towards the arabs first, how it has been the aggressor all along, the bully on the playground, the one instigating all for its own purposes and goals . . .

The policies of the Iron Wall and the Salvation/Redemption of the Land of Eretz Israel and how the Iron Wall is designed to achieve just that should tell you that there is something fundamentally wrong with whawt you think and "see".

That the Zionist Terror Gangs became the IDF simply means their terror tactics became codified into the military arm of the Zionist Govermnet of Israel .. . they continue under the guise of legitimacy of the Israeli government. .

Yet, you don't see this because this is not what is presented to you in the propaganda you do see. That is by design. You have to dig deep into history of this matter to find what I have been sharing with you.

The propaganda is easier to believe because it is all around you. . . . the turth is something else entirely.



"sub humans?" Defamation, Demonization. . .

And yet you totally ignore the same tactics from the Zionists Jews for over 100 years. You ignore the USS Liberty. You ignore the ethnicide and ethinic cleansing of the Palestinains that has been continuing unabated both from before and after Israel became a nation.

Would you dare call the Jewish terrorists that have done these things "sub human"?

Somehow, I don't think so, and so we see your extreme bias and prejudice against a people, a race . . . . that extreme bias and prejudice against a race has a name. . . . .




And Israel has stated it would have no misgivings of setting off a nuclear holocaust, taking out the middle east with them if they "thought" they might be overun. Israel is the one with 200 nukes trained on major middle eastern cities and who knows where else. And that's not everything they have.

I am sorry, but your entire concept of what is going on over there is so distorted, it has little to do with the reality on the ground.



Excues me? Israel started that war. Israel made the first strike. This was Israel's war from start to finish to effect one of Zionism's principle goals . . . THE SALVATION/REDEMPTION OF THE LAND OF ERETZ ISRAEL!

Why did Israel try to deliberately sink the USS Liberty, the most advanced spy ship in the world, during the Six Day War?

Watch the BBC documentary "DEAD IN THE WATER" for starters . . . . .

http://video.google.com/videosearch?hl=en&q=bbc+dead+in+the+water&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wv

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Israel has a "share the pain" policy were by if a state attacks then any state who is allied with it will be nuked thus Israel has warned the nations of the world to be observant of who they support. And Israel has more then 200 nuclear weapons and at any rate is it a problem if they do have them?