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CF has always been a site that welcomes people from different backgrounds and beliefs to participate in discussion and even debate. That is the nature of its ministry. In view of recent events emotions are running very high. We need to remind people of some basic principles in debating on this site. We need to be civil when we express differences in opinion. No personal attacks. Avoid you, your statements. Don't characterize an entire political party with comparisons to Fascism or Communism or other extreme movements that committed atrocities. CF is not the place for broad brush or blanket statements about groups and political parties. Put the broad brushes and blankets away when you come to CF, better yet, put them in the incinerator. Debate had no place for them. We need to remember that people that commit acts of violence represent themselves or a small extreme faction.
How the Democratic Party opposes Christian Principles
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This might be the single most stupid statement I've ever seen on this forum.
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ImmortalTechnique
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have you ever even seen a democrat? do you live in the real world, or just sit in a small room and watch TBN and listen to Rush all day?
nothing you say corresponds in the slightest to anything in the real world.
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There is a fine line between nutty beliefs, and fanatical beliefs. This line has been crossed when the following conditions are met:
1)When you categorize people and the world into two groups: Good vs Evil.
2) When you villainize those who you disagree with.
3) You claim to Speak for God.
These conditions are synonymous with fanatical muslim terrorists. When you have someone who genuinely believes the above--they are dangerous. Liable to walk into a school or a other populated location and begin a mass killing in the name of their God. Whether it's Allah or Jesus. Killing the unbelievables, the sinners, the "evil-doers" who are "intent on ruining society". What Clirus is saying can only result from a severely disturbed, clearly fanatically religious and dangerous individual.
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Nathan Poe
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So that's a "no" on the facts, then. Thank you for answering, clirus.
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Nathan Poe
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I doubt he's actually seen one outside the required Two Minutes Hate session.
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There is a fine line between nutty beliefs, and fanatical beliefs. This line has been crossed when the following conditions are met:
1)When you categorize people and the world into two groups: Good vs Evil.
2) When you villainize those who you disagree with.
3) You claim to Speak for God.
These conditions are synonymous with fanatical muslim terrorists. When you have someone who genuinely believes the above--they are dangerous. Liable to walk into a school or a other populated location and begin a mass killing in the name of their God. Whether it's Allah or Jesus. Killing the unbelievables, the sinners, the "evil-doers" who are "intent on ruining society". What Clirus is saying can only result from a severely disturbed, clearly fanatically religious and dangerous individual.
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This of course a personal attack on me because you did not like what I wrote. You have your opinions and I have my opinions. I am always willing to discuss any issue, but like to refrain from personal attacks.
I believe my opinions are based on the Bible. The Bible does divide the world into two groups: Good and Evil.
The Bible does say to do good and reject evil.
There is little likelihood that any Christian would be involved in a mass killing when the Bible rejects killing.
There is a fine line between nutty beliefs, and fanatical beliefs. This line has been crossed when the following conditions are met:
1)When you categorize people and the world into two groups: Good vs Evil.
2) When you villainize those who you disagree with.
3) You claim to Speak for God.
These conditions are synonymous with fanatical muslim terrorists. When you have someone who genuinely believes the above--they are dangerous. Liable to walk into a school or a other populated location and begin a mass killing in the name of their God. Whether it's Allah or Jesus. Killing the unbelievables, the sinners, the "evil-doers" who are "intent on ruining society". What Clirus is saying can only result from a severely disturbed, clearly fanatically religious and dangerous individual.
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This of course a personal attack on me because you did not like what I wrote. You have your opinions and I have my opinions. I am always willing to discuss any issue, but like to refrain from personal attacks.
I believe my opinions are based on the Bible. The Bible does divide the world into two groups: Good and Evil.
The Bible does say to do good and reject evil.
There is little likelihood that any Christian would be involved in a mass killing when the Bible rejects killing.
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Nathan Poe
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I don't care much for Osama's opinions either. Do you?
And what is the Bible's stance on torturing innocent people?
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And what is the Bible's stance on torturing innocent people?
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The fatal flaw in that question is the word "innocent".
If a person does not accept Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior they will be cast into the like of fire for eternity.
You failed to separate torture during war or just torture.
There is a great difference in what a nation does in a war than what is done in peace time. That is why the war must be authorized by congress.
And what is the Bible's stance on torturing innocent people?
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The fatal flaw in that question is the word "innocent".
If a person does not accept Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior they will be cast into the like of fire for eternity.
You failed to separate torture during war or just torture.
There is a great difference in what a nation does in a war than what is done in peace time. That is why the war must be authorized by congress.
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Nathan Poe
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Does that give Christians justification to torture non-Christians?
Probably because "just torture" is the most abhorrant contradiction in terms I've ever seen. Anyone who would believe in such a term is morally sick.
And why torture is never authorized by Congress.
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Unless and until the GOP eschews policies based on God, Gays and Guns, it will remain the party for the minoirity of business. Barely 37% of businessmen now see the party as relevant.
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The real evil is someone who recreates God in their own image.
To portray God as a conservative, card carrying Republican to justify one's own political agenda is bad enough BUT to cast aspersions arguing that members of the Democratic Party as not being true Christians verges on blasphemy.
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And why torture is never authorized by Congress.
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I believe that torture did occur in WW II and I believe torture was authorized. I just can't prove either belief because there was total censorship during WW II.
Total censorship is needed to win any war or to make the war as short as possible.
And why torture is never authorized by Congress.
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I believe that torture did occur in WW II and I believe torture was authorized. I just can't prove either belief because there was total censorship during WW II.
Total censorship is needed to win any war or to make the war as short as possible.
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To portray God as a conservative, card carrying Republican to justify one's own political agenda is bad enough BUT to cast doubts on members of the Democratic Party as not being true Christians verges on blasphemy.
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At least you do understand the question.
People have to make a decision.
Republicans have yet to prove to me that they really support Christian principles, but democrats have proven they do "not" support Christian Principles.
To portray God as a conservative, card carrying Republican to justify one's own political agenda is bad enough BUT to cast doubts on members of the Democratic Party as not being true Christians verges on blasphemy.
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At least you do understand the question.
People have to make a decision.
Republicans have yet to prove to me that they really support Christian principles, but democrats have proven they do "not" support Christian Principles.
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Nathan Poe
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I believe that you are completely talking out of your hat. I see no need to believe anything you say from this point on, as I believe you're just making stuff up.
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According to the Greatest Commandment, love of God followed by love of neighbor as yourself are the two essential guiding principle for God's Law and the Prophets.
Only God is in a position to determine who loves/doesn't love Him and He isn't about to delegate that authority to those self-righteous individuals on earth who would be only to glad to judge others.
Love of God is often reflected on how we love our fellow man - and we can start by being nonjudgemental.
Christ focused much of His attention not on the common sinner, but the religious hypocrite as described in the 7 Woes.
It is those modern-day Pharisees who would presume to judge others in God's name and serve as a barrier between mankind and Christ who will be denied eternal salvation.
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