How the Democratic Party opposes Christian Principles

[Rudolph Hucker]

Do those who approve torture "by us" have the same support when it comes to torture "by them"?

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[clirus]

Nathan Poe quote

So, you're Jesus now?

Response

No more so than you are Satan.

We just fight in different armies.

 

[clirus]

Rudolph Hucker quote

Do those who approve torture "by us" have the same support when it comes to torture "by them"?

Response

Usually, a war exists after a horrible act of violence has been perpetrated by the enemy. That horrible act of violence is proof that the enemy is committed to what ever it takes to win. The suicide bombings, beheading of people, etc has shown the Islamic Terrorists will do what ever it takes to win.

America is fighting the Iraq War because the Islamic Terrorists hijacked several airplanes and flew the airplanes into buildings killing 3000 Americans.

America had a choice to surrender or to eliminate the enemy that represented a threat to America. America choose to eliminate the threat by both the democrats and Republicans voting for the Iraq War. The Atheistic Liberal News Media and the democrats became traitors when they began to criticize the Iraq War in order to gain control of the government.

America now is faced with Iran which is openly developing a nuclear weapon that represents a threat to America because Iran has stated they will eliminate Israel and anyone who supports Israel. Iran is a key element in the Islamic Terrorists forcing the Islamic religion on all the world.

The question is a pre-emptive military strike or wait till the Islamic Terrorists of Iran explode a nuclear bomb in America.

Democrats do not have the courage to deal with Iran even though the threat is obvious. Democrats did not have the courage to deal with the Islamic Terrorists before the Iraq War even though the threat was obvious.

When compared to perfection, Republicans did not look good, but when compared to democrats, Republicans look brilliant. Without the propaganda support of the Atheistic Liberal News Media the democrats would look ridicules.

 

[Nathan Poe]

Nathan Poe quote

So, you're Jesus now?

Response

No more so than you are Satan.

We just fight in different armies.

Neither of us are fighting, clirus.

I don't fight because there's no war.

You don't fight because while you think there's a war, you're not obeying the Bible -- not "doing whatever it takes" to win.

You're not really doing much of anything in your war, are you?

 

[IzzyPop]

Rudolph Hucker quote

Do those who approve torture "by us" have the same support when it comes to torture "by them"?

Response

Usually, a war exists after a horrible act of violence has been perpetrated by the enemy. That horrible act of violence is proof that the enemy is committed to what ever it takes to win. The suicide bombings, beheading of people, etc has shown the Islamic Terrorists will do what ever it takes to win.

America is fighting the Iraq War because the Islamic Terrorists hijacked several airplanes and flew the airplanes into buildings killing 3000 Americans.

What? What did Iraq have to do with 9/11? How many terrorists that are in Iraq now were there prior to our invading it? How many were even terrorists prior to our invasion of Iraq?

America had a choice to surrender or to eliminate the enemy that represented a threat to America. America choose to eliminate the threat by both the democrats and Republicans voting for the Iraq War. The Atheistic Liberal News Media and the democrats became traitors when they began to criticize the Iraq War in order to gain control of the government.

Nah. It was before that. The media and almost every legislator, from whatever party, became traitors when they frog marched us into a war of choice. Few people were asking the right questions and those that were had the honor of being ignored. Or fired, if you worked for the executive branch.

America now is faced with Iran which is openly developing a nuclear weapon that represents a threat to America because Iran has stated they will eliminate Israel and anyone who supports Israel. Iran is a key element in the Islamic Terrorists forcing the Islamic religion on all the world.

The question is a pre-emptive military strike or wait till the Islamic Terrorists of Iran explode a nuclear bomb in America.

Democrats do not have the courage to deal with Iran even though the threat is obvious. Democrats did not have the courage to deal with the Islamic Terrorists before the Iraq War even though the threat was obvious.

Right now it has little to do with courage and everything to do with lack of manpower. We are already stretching out military too thin with a 2 front war and you are proposing to open a third? Remind me to play you in chess for some money sometime.

When compared to perfection, Republicans did not look good, but when compared to democrats, Republicans look brilliant. Without the propaganda support of the Atheistic Liberal News Media the democrats would look ridicules.

Ah, but you are here to counter the ALM and make Republicans look just as ridiculous.

 

[Rudolph Hucker]

Rudolph Hucker quote

Do those who approve torture "by us" have the same support when it comes to torture "by them"?

Response

Usually, a war exists after a horrible act of violence has been perpetrated by the enemy. That horrible act of violence is proof that the enemy is committed to what ever it takes to win. The suicide bombings, beheading of people, etc has shown the Islamic Terrorists will do what ever it takes to win.

America is fighting the Iraq War because the Islamic Terrorists hijacked several airplanes and flew the airplanes into buildings killing 3000 Americans.

America had a choice to surrender or to eliminate the enemy that represented a threat to America. America choose to eliminate the threat by both the democrats and Republicans voting for the Iraq War. The Atheistic Liberal News Media and the democrats became traitors when they began to criticize the Iraq War in order to gain control of the government.

America now is faced with Iran which is openly developing a nuclear weapon that represents a threat to America because Iran has stated they will eliminate Israel and anyone who supports Israel. Iran is a key element in the Islamic Terrorists forcing the Islamic religion on all the world.

The question is a pre-emptive military strike or wait till the Islamic Terrorists of Iran explode a nuclear bomb in America.

Democrats do not have the courage to deal with Iran even though the threat is obvious. Democrats did not have the courage to deal with the Islamic Terrorists before the Iraq War even though the threat was obvious.

When compared to perfection, Republicans did not look good, but when compared to democrats, Republicans look brilliant. Without the propaganda support of the Atheistic Liberal News Media the democrats would look ridicules.

Is that "yes, they can use torture as can we" or "no, they cannot use torture but we can"?

 

[Nathan Poe]

America is fighting the Iraq War because the Islamic Terrorists hijacked several airplanes and flew the airplanes into buildings killing 3000 Americans.

Which goes to show the abominable stupidity of the American administration -- the Islamic Terrorists responsible for those hijackings had absolutely no connection whatsoever to Iraq. In fact, the only reason they are now in Iraq is because we destabilized the government badly enough to allow them to sneak in in droves -- to kill the very forces who destabilized the government.

America had a choice to surrender or to eliminate the enemy that represented a threat to America. America choose to eliminate the threat by both the democrats and Republicans voting for the Iraq War.

America was told that the enemy was in Iraq -- America was lied to.

America now is faced with Iran which is openly developing a nuclear weapon that represents a threat to America because Iran has stated they will eliminate Israel and anyone who supports Israel. Iran is a key element in the Islamic Terrorists forcing the Islamic religion on all the world.

And is the alternative to force the Christian Religion on the world?

The question is a pre-emptive military strike or wait till the Islamic Terrorists of Iran explode a nuclear bomb in America.

My, you must live in such constant fear...

Democrats do not have the courage to deal with Iran even though the threat is obvious. Democrats did not have the courage to deal with the Islamic Terrorists before the Iraq War even though the threat was obvious.

Because the threat was obviously not in Iraq. Saddam Hussein was a chuhuahua sitting next to a "Beware of Dog" sign.

 

[clirus]

IzzyPop quote

What? What did Iraq have to do with 9/11? How many terrorists that are in Iraq now were there prior to our invading it? How many were even terrorists prior to our invasion of Iraq?

Response

9/11 represented an attack on America by Islamic Terrorists in the Middle East.

Iraq is at the center of all the Islamic Terrorists activity.

You resolve Iraq and you resolve the problem of the Islamic Terrorists in the Middle East.

Bin Laden sure is interested in Iraq. Wonder why?

Democrats know President Bush is right on Iraq and that is why they voted for yet another Iraq War spending bill.

Even Hillary Clinton is adopting the Bush Iraq War plan.

 

[IzzyPop]

IzzyPop quote

What? What did Iraq have to do with 9/11? How many terrorists that are in Iraq now were there prior to our invading it? How many were even terrorists prior to our invasion of Iraq?

Response

9/11 represented an attack on America by Islamic Terrorists in the Middle East.

Iraq is at the center of all the Islamic Terrorists activity.

Prior to our invasion? Got any proof of that? Even the administration has come out and state unequivocally, albeit quietly, that Iraq had no connections to 9/11.

You resolve Iraq and you resolve the problem of the Islamic Terrorists in the Middle East.

Because there are no terrorists in Saudia Arabia, Iran, Sudan, Lebanon, Egypt, or any other middle eastern country.

Bin Laden sure is interested in Iraq. Wonder why?

Because we invaded.

Democrats know President Bush is right on Iraq and that is why they voted for yet another Iraq War spending bill.

No. The Democrats are spineless.

Even Hillary Clinton is adopting the Bush Iraq War plan.

And that is one of the biggest reasons I cannot support her.

 

[Nathan Poe]

9/11 represented an attack on America by Islamic Terrorists in the Middle East.

Iraq is at the center of all the Islamic Terrorists activity.

Well, it is now, but how about before the invasion?

You resolve Iraq and you resolve the problem of the Islamic Terrorists in the Middle East.

Or as Colin Powell said before Bush fired him, "We break it, we buy it."

Bin Laden sure is interested in Iraq. Wonder why?

Becasue we handed it to him on a silver platter? Softened it up for him real nice.

Democrats know President Bush is right on Iraq and that is why they voted for yet another Iraq War spending bill.

If we can't pull our soldiers out of the fire, we can at least get them fireproof equipment -- something Bush failed to do when he started this.

Even Hillary Clinton is adopting the Bush Iraq War plan.

Source?

 

[clirus]

Fuzzy Liberal Thinking

Written by the democrats themselves.

http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/internal-dem-memo-faults-party-message-2007-10-26.html

"Almost every Republican message contains a simple and direct moral imperative, a stark contrast between good and evil, right and wrong, common sense and fuzzy liberal thinking," Helfert wrote. "Meanwhile, we're trying to ignite passions with analyses of optimum pupil-teacher ratios."

 

[Nathan Poe]

Fuzzy Liberal Thinking

Written by the democrats themselves.

http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/internal-dem-memo-faults-party-message-2007-10-26.html

"Almost every Republican message contains a simple and direct moral imperative, a stark contrast between good and evil, right and wrong, common sense and fuzzy liberal thinking," Helfert wrote. "Meanwhile, we're trying to ignite passions with analyses of optimum pupil-teacher ratios."

So, the Democrats know the world is more complicated than the God vs. Evil, White Hats vs. Black Hats cartoon the Repubs try to sell it as.

Your point?

 

[Rudolph Hucker]

Can anybody point to successful Christian dominated governments?

Current or historical would do ....

 

[clirus]

Rudolph Hucker quote

Can anybody point to successful Christian dominated governments?

Response

England and all the nations of Europe became very successful while they were dominated by Christian people and the government was consistent with Christian Ethics. England and Europe declined after WW II and the Christian community failed to reestablish. Also, there had already been a mass migration of Christians to America.

America is of course the greatest example of a nation that became very successful while they were dominated by Christian people and the government was consistent with Christian Ethics. America is in a Cultural War because of the introduction of Socialism into politics by Roosevelt. America will go into the same decline as Europe and England if Socialism replaces Christianity and Capitalism in America.

I believe in Democracy, Christianity and Capitalism. Democracy allows choice, Christianity defines the right choice and Capitalism produces the prosperity that allows Democracy and Christianity to work. Christianity is essential to prevent the excesses of Democracy and Capitalism from destroying society. Christianity deals with individual ethics, that collectively produce a ethical society. Christianity offers the possibility of prevention, where the law can only offer punishment after a violation.

The concept of Democracy and Socialism that is advocated by democrats will not work. Capitalism creates unequal prosperity, and Socialism creates equal poverty.

There is a cultural war in America between Christians and Atheists. This war is being fought on the battlefield of politics. The battles are in the voting booth. The prize in the cultural war is the hearts, minds and souls of the children. The Atheistic liberal news media greatly influences both domestic and foreign policy by constantly reporting only bad news about Christians, conservatives and Republicans and only good news about atheists, liberals and democrats. The agenda of the Atheistic liberal news media is to promote extreme environmentalism, socialism, feminism, pornography, abortion, homosexuality and the Atheistic Lifestyle by having democrats in control of government.

 

[Sphere]

You repeated the same garbage almost verbatim for the past 68 pages.

 

[ONEGod]

#620
clirus:
Response

I agree with everything you said, but I believe God directly intervened in the Old Testament, but uses the Holy Spirit to intervene now. Ultimately God will have to directly intervene again as presented in the Old Testament.

For now, I believe God has provided the Holy Spirit to guide Christians, provided the Bible to guide Christians and expects Christians to act accordingly.

One of the places Christians are tested is the way they vote. I believe a lot of Christians (accepted Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior) are allowing themselves to be deceived by Satan/Atheists as to what the Bible says.

Preachers fail to preach Righteousness along with the Love preaching.

Christians fail to realize that advocating or being a part of extreme environmentalism, socialism, feminism, pornography, abortion, homosexuality and the Atheistic Lifestyle is not in accordance with the Bible (which Christians are told to follow).

Republicans have yet to prove to me that they really support Christian principles, but democrats have proven they do "not" support Christian Principles

ONEGod:
The Republicans surely are not without sin and need to get much closer to Christian principles, however that is a far cry from the democrats treating God as a contamination to government/society and then ushering Islam in as a respected influence into government/society. Neither do i see Christians as being accepting of a governing, the wickedness of which exceeds the wickedness of King Herod. You don't see Republicans demanding equivalency of atheist and haters of Christianity as equals nor of perverts and deviants.
We are supposed to have freedom of Religion, not freedom from religion in our society. Except the haters and deniers of Christianity insist freedom of religion as long as it isn't Christianity, and freedom of religion reserved exclusively of Christianity giving us over to all other competitors. As long as we effectively have only two choices, i will reluctantly choose the lesser of two evils, (so to speak).

 

[Ringo84]

that is a far cry from the democrats treating God as a contamination to government/society

More like treating violations of valid laws separating church and state as violations of freedom, as they should be.

We are supposed to have freedom of Religion, not freedom from religion in our society.

That is categorically false. One cannot have freedom of religion without freedom from religion; it's impossible. That's like saying, "you have the freedom of religion. You can choose Christianity, Christianity or Christianity". That's not how our system works.

Except the haters and deniers of Christianity insist freedom of religion as long as it isn't Christianity

That's a hateful denunciation of those who disagree with you on this issue. You lazily lump them all together into the "haters and deniers" pool without showing any regard for the fact that many Christians, myself included, may disagree with you on the religious freedom issue and not "hate" Christ at all.
Ringo

 

[clarksided]

Hey I'm an atheist and I hate socialism and love capitalism.

Leave the democrats alone.

 

[clirus]

Hey I'm an atheist and I hate socialism and love capitalism.

Leave the democrats alone.

Strange

Most Atheists love socialism because socialism allows the government to steal (taxes) from the righteous (Christians) to give the unrighteous who are suffering disease, death and destruction because of their Atheistic Lifestyle.

 

[JustOneWay]

Strange

Most Atheists love socialism because socialism allows the government to steal (taxes) from the righteous (Christians) to give the unrighteous who are suffering disease, death and destruction because of their Atheistic Lifestyle.

Care to support this with facts?