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Scientists know exactly what the direct speed of light is, and they've known it since the late 19th century. Without this knowledge, Einstein would not have had any basis to develop the concept of special relativity.
The Babylonians had a numbering system in regular use that could count to about 12.96 million in 4 base-60 digits. They also had a relatively advanced understanding of trigonometry, which is evident from unearthed building plans. (Which, it turns out is easier to do by hand in base-60 than it is in base-10.) Abraham was rich and well educated by any standard you might use for that time period, and was a native of this region, so I think he could mathematically comprehend millions. Rebekah was Abraham's niece and showed distinct signs of intelligence in the Bible, so I don't think it's a given that Rebekah was ignorant of the concept. Though I don't think the concept of infinity in mathematical sense existed, but when referring to God, it could have been as comprehensible as it is to the average person today.
Ok, but it's not just the math or the numbers that would need to be understood, but almost everything else in the areas of knowledge that we have acquired since then, etc. And also, while some few might have been more intelligent or educated, the great majority of the people (their audience) (that they would be reading these things to) was not, etc.
You cannot measure what the speed of light is....no one can. You can only measure what reflected light speed is....not direct light. That is not about agreeing or disagreeing...its simply a fact. So what Einstein did was just make the assumption that direct light is the same speed as reflective light. (When asked about how he could make that assumption - He said its his theory he can make any assumption he wants to)
Why is that relevant? It's like saying you have no proof that a meteorite came from space, because you can't prove it wasn't hovering just out of sight for 10,000 years and then dropped suddenly from a geosynchronous orbit. Or you can't prove God created it a couple of miles up in the atmosphere spontaneously and just decided at that moment to get rid of a few thousand trees in Tunguska. There's absolutely no reason to believe that light travels any differently before it reflects, and even if it did, it doesn't instantly go in one direction and then reflect at a set speed in every other scenario. GPS systems have to be synchronized because time moves differently in orbit, and the GPS has to take that into account to remain reliable. If the relativity theories were based on an incorrect constant, then they would be constantly going out of synch.You cannot measure what the speed of light is....no one can. You can only measure what reflected light speed is....not direct light. That is not about agreeing or disagreeing...its simply a fact. So what Einstein did was just make the assumption that direct light is the same speed as reflective light. (When asked about how he could make that assumption - He said its his theory he can make any assumption he wants to)
My point was not to say Einstein was right or wrong...but just to point out that understanding because stars are unique in that they are the only thing (that I know of) that we look at in space that is direct light. So just be aware of that when making statements of fact about distance and such about stars when its definitley not a fact since we don't know the speed of direct light.
There's no way to Measure the Speed of Light in a Single Direction
A new study shows that not even cosmology can verify Einstein's assumption about the speed of light.www.universetoday.com
My point is only because many people use the speed of light and the distance of stars from earth using that speed as proof that creation was not 6000 years ago. So I just wanted it known that that may not be a reliable argument against creation 6000 years ago.
Many people. Perhaps you. I’d have to go back and look at your replies, use the speed of light and the distance stars are using that speed as an argument against Creation being 6000 years ago. Just pointing out that that may not be a reliable argument. The speed of light is used very often in creation arguments. You know that.
also It is interesting that we can’t see any planets further than 6000 light years away. Planets are seen with reflective light which we do know is 186,000 miles per second.
How do you think any astronomical object is measured? Aren't you trying to argue that the U is only 6k yrs old? Denying how far stars are away without any cosmological theory on how astronomers are deceived is a dead end.
Reflective light is much dimmer than direct light from stars, so do you think that 6k LY limit on planets means anything at all, if indeed what you say is true - where are you getting your information? I only know of 2018 AG37 for being seen through a telescope, but other methods have detected planets up to 27,000 LY away. Here is an example: Newfound Alien Planet Is One of the Farthest Ever Detected
Based in the list of known planets we can see using telescopes or other means. The other methods that we have used to see 27,000 ly away planets just use the holes in the direct light. They don’t actually see any planets. But the holes in the light are very good evidence of the planets
Dimmer does not mean slower though, etc. Not unless they are passing through two different mediums, etc.
I thought you believed otherwise.
The Jude passage you refer to is probably this:
