How do you plan to escape HELL???

[MemeBuster]

My plan includes 12 virgins (2 blondes, 6 brunettes, and 4 red heads), a left-handed midget (there are plenty of those in Hell), demon urine (unless we can find some vodka) and Elton John.

And you can find all these in Hell.


MB.

 

[dlamberth]

Ghandi is in hell where he deserves to be.

I just find it incredible that some people are so righteous that they can make these sorts of judgments for God. It tells me that there's something at the most basic level that's really not right here.

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[Mrs.Sidhe]

I just find it incredible that some people are so righteous that they can make these sorts of judgments for God. It tells me that there's something at the most basic level that's really not right here.

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Excellent post.

It really drives me nuts when people think they can assume God's role and just make judgments about everyone else. (especially since I don't remember God relinquishing his/her throne or you know giving notice of him/her quitting--nor I remember God giving SOF or KarrieTex his/her power to speak for God)

 

[ArchaicTruth]

Gandhi was a far better servant of God than any person here

 

[GrayCat]

I think it's funny how the Fundamentalists say God is the ultimate power that everyone should obey and yet the whole time you get the underlying impression that who they are actually describing, consciously or unconsciously, is themself.


I really like this quote -

"You can safely assume that you've created God in your own image, when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do."

 

[Soul Searcher]

I just find it incredible that some people are so righteous that they can make these sorts of judgments for God. It tells me that there's something at the most basic level that's really not right here.

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Totally agree.

 

[Soul Searcher]

Because God doesn't care how good a person you are, as long as you worship him every waking moment, amirite?

That is what many preach, fortunately they are wrong.

 

[Wednesday]

This rhetoric makes me feel physically sick. People like SOF are genuinely scary :o This is insanity.

Originally posted by Gandhi

I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.

 

[Renton405]

The bible says that hell will give up its dead so I see no need to escape. It also says that God is eternal, a consuming fire and everywhere. There is no escape from the eternal fire so a plan would be futile.

On Judgement day Hell will give up its dead. Then the reprobate will be sent to the "second death" which is the Lake of Fire. The bible clearly states that their smoke and torments will ascend up forever and ever..This is true death(spiritual death), and the death that Jesus saves us from by giving us eternal life..

 

[Renton405]

Gandhi was a far better servant of God than any person here

It dosen't matter "whos better". Only by the grace of God can a person inherit eternal life. And as I showed earlier, Ghandi did many very questionable things behind curtains..Without grace your works mean nothing..

Originally posted by Gandhi

I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.

You see, the problem with this is, is that the body of Christians in this world is part of the body of Christ. Ghandi is generalizing, and second he is attacking the body of Christ by attacking his followers..

Originally Posted by CriticalMassKitten
Because God doesn't care how good a person you are, as long as you worship him every waking moment, amirite?

Of course not, Good works are important. The book of James says that Faith without works is dead. Just as works without faith is dead. But a person must have repentance and contrition before his works mean anything.

 

[Soul Searcher]

On Judgement day Hell will give up its dead. Then the reprobate will be sent to the "second death" which is the Lake of Fire. The bible clearly states that their smoke and torments will ascend up forever and ever..This is true death(spiritual death), and the death that Jesus saves us from by giving us eternal life..

But remember that the book of revelation is what John saw in a vision. Did John see smoke going up forever or did he see a lot of smoke? I think it is safe to say that this vision took place in a fairly short period of time and therefore it is not remotely possible that he literally saw the smoke going up forever and ever. Just one of many problems with the literal interpretation of that verse.

Elsewhere we are told that every man will be tried for what he has done by fire, gain reward or suffer loss but he himself shall be saved as by fire. We are told again in revelation that every man will be judged by what he has done. The lake of fire is said to torment those who are within, it is said to contain brimstone which was thought to be a purifing agent. The word torment means to test the purity of gold and silver, elsewhere we see that the fire tries our works be they gold and silver, hay and stubble, gain or loss but salvation regaurdless. We are told that it is Gods will that every man be saved, that no one can twart Gods will and that God is not willing that any should perish.

When we drop the literal understanding of a verse that is not literal the concept of eternal torture goes away with it and we see a much brighter light than ever before in that not only did God have a plan to save everyone but that he will do so.

 

[Renton405]

But remember that the book of revelation is what John saw in a vision. Did John see smoke going up forever or did he see a lot of smoke? I think it is safe to say that this vision took place in a fairly short period of time and therefore it is not remotely possible that he literally saw the smoke going up forever and ever. Just one of many problems with the literal interpretation of that verse.

Elsewhere we are told that every man will be tried for what he has done by fire, gain reward or suffer loss but he himself shall be saved as by fire. We are told again in revelation that every man will be judged by what he has done. The lake of fire is said to torment those who are within, it is said to contain brimstone which was thought to be a purifing agent. The word torment means to test the purity of gold and silver, elsewhere we see that the fire tries our works be they gold and silver, hay and stubble, gain or loss but salvation regaurdless. We are told that it is Gods will that every man be saved, that no one can twart Gods will and that God is not willing that any should perish.

When we drop the literal understanding of a verse that is not literal the concept of eternal torture goes away with it and we see a much brighter light than ever before in that not only did God have a plan to save everyone but that he will do so.

Yes, that is the purging of the saved.. The transition to heaven(Purgatory)..

While is it God's will, he does not force people beyond their free will.

 

[LouTheWicked]

I'm also wondering where the sudden paedophile statement came from.

 

[Wednesday]

Ad hominem. Just an insult when you cannot come up with anything better.

 

[ShieldOFaith]

I'm also wondering where the sudden paedophile statement came from.

Do the research on your boy Gandhi.

 

[Renton405]

I'm also wondering where the sudden paedophile statement came from.

Ghandi sex sources on his sleeping with young women

http://www.clogo.org/Archives/prd/pers/Ghandi.html

http://www.sikhtimes.com/books_020278a.html

http://www.adamyoshida.com/2004/01/s...white-men.html


http://www.straightdope.com/columns/040813.html

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...v19/ai_5167040

http://www.redhotpawn.com/board/show...threadid=54658

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghandi#Criticism

http://forums.plentyoffish.com/datingPosts4167518.aspx


http://www.discussanything.com/forum...d.php?t=104817

 

[quatona]

I´m not sure that the plans for myself will work, but I have a perfect plan to keep my children from going to hell: I will have them aborted as long as they are still "innocent babies". Presumably this will earn me hell, but, well, how is that for unselfishness?

 

[Sitswithamouse]

I'm not being defensive.
I'm just showing an example of double standards.
Do you think the priests will go to hell or will they be saved because they may have repented? .

Renton.
Are you going to answer this question or are you just going to keep spouting hate filled rhetoric along with SOF?

 

[Renton405]

I´m not sure that the plans for myself will work, but I have a perfect plan to keep my children from going to hell: I will have them aborted as long as they are still "innocent babies". Presumably this will earn me hell, but, well, how is that for unselfishness?

Actually since Christ is the only way to have eternal life that is questionable. babys still are born with original sin. St. Augustine said that unbaptized babys went to an area that was not hell but not heaven either. Remember the church didn't really do away with Limbo, since it was never an official teaching in the first place(and Pope Benedict just gave his opinion on it, he wasn't speaking infallibly), but rather it is still an opinion... Its a very difficult question, but you cannot be sure a child goes to heaven just by killing them early.

 

[Renton405]

Renton.
Are you going to answer this question or are you just going to keep spouting hate filled rhetoric along with SOF?

How is that hate filled rhetoric? Ghandi DID sleep with underaged girls(apparently as a way to test his chasity, which somehow I don't buy). And he did have weird habits with enemas and drinking his own urine.

The Catholic scandals are for another OP since it is an unrelated question. Homosexuality has hurt the Catholic Church greatly.. But there are sinners in all types of churches, if you goto www.reformation.com you will see it happens just as much in other denominations. The media just likes to target the Catholoic Church more because hollywood hates the CC, and thus it gets more media on their scandals..