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How do you know when you've been saved?
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Romans 10shadesoflight62 said:
9That if you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved. 11As the Scripture says, "Anyone who trusts in him will never be put to shame."[1] 12For there is no difference between Jew and Gentile--the same Lord is Lord of all and richly blesses all who call on him, 13for, "Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved."[2]
We are saved by believing in our heart and confessing with our lips, the 2 always go togther. Like the verses thereselittleflower posted, I have the hope of salvation because of God's promises, God's promises are good as if they have already happened.
We will never be put to shame.
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thereselittleflower said:
Hi there!
I have an assurance that I am "saved" today... and you may have the same assurance. I don't have to wait until I am on my deathbed and I hear heaven's music to know that I will make heaven.
God isn't a yo-yo god where you are saved today, lost tomorrow, saved today, lost tomorrow. He's a matter-of-fact God that isn't changing at whim. He is the same yesterday, today, and forever.
If I know I am saved by the grace of God today, then I have the assurance that God's has enough grace to keep me saved tomorrow... and the day after, and every moment until I am in His presence.
If you don't have that same assurance, then I would tell you to get back in the book until you do.
Yes, salvation is a process... and that process goes from the moment that you accept Christ and begin a new life in Christ, follow in believer's baptism, seek the will of God, grow in grace, grow in wisdom, etc. etc. etc. and that process continues until you are in the actual presence of God...
Being in the process of salvation doesn't mean that the relationship with Christ is lost because the fellowship is broken. If you aren't on the path today, then you never were... but your path may meander through a lot of hardships, toils, and struggles where your faith falters, but that doesn't mean that your faith fails.
~serapha~
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