So your defense of your god's failure to stop evil is tu quoque?Not all man-made, but pretty descriptive of man when I consider Stalin, Lenin, Mao, Pol-Pot ... or even the hurtful gossip down the street.
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So your defense of your god's failure to stop evil is tu quoque?Not all man-made, but pretty descriptive of man when I consider Stalin, Lenin, Mao, Pol-Pot ... or even the hurtful gossip down the street.
So your defense of your god's failure to stop evil is tu quoque?
So your defense of your god's failure to stop evil is tu quoque?
Christianity is also the only explanation I find for these things, via man's fallen condition. But the creation still contains the remnant of its initial and intended beauty.
I’m not sure how Christianity’s doctrine of man’s fallen condition can logically explain the 2004 tsunami that killed at least 225,000 people
But I’m sure you are sincere in your faith that God is loving and benevolent.
Apparently God gave people (and angels) free will and that resulted in sin, suffering, death, and the curse...As was noted earlier, I’m not sure how Christianity’s doctrine of man’s fallen condition can logically explain the 2004 tsunami that killed at least 225,000 people in Malaysia and southeast Asia. At least 1/3 of the victims were children. Maybe God’s goodness is revealed by the fact that there weren’t 500,000 fatalities. But I’m sure you are sincere in your faith that God is loving and benevolent. And I won’t argue with faith.
everyone dies at some point
why are you concerned about timing
the gods generally are, their karma is heavenly
Yes, everyone eventually dies. Some sooner, some later. How does this advance the belief that God is good?
Apparently God gave people (and angels) free will and that resulted in sin, suffering, death, and the curse...
Romans 8:22
"We know that all that God created has been groaning. It is in pain as if it were giving birth to a child. The created world continues to groan even now"But apparently one day there will be justice (the new heavens and earth and the lake of fire)
Couldn’t this happen in exactly the same way if God were evil and deceptive?
God is good… also… people die
perhaps from water, perhaps from fire
You believe God is good as a matter of faith.
Don't I have to find out what "the Good" is first before I apply an axiological evaluation to the God of the Bible?
Cancer, parasites, hurricanes, tornadoes, earthquakes, venomous snakes, stinging insects, poison ivy ...
Because there are universal goods.How do we know that good exists?
How could the creature be greater than the creator? Can the pot tell the potter "I don't approve of you"? The potter that fears the pot doesn't exist.Yes, good things happen. If everything was unrelenting misery, we wouldn’t know anything else. And as I said, an evil and deceitful God could allow some good in order to hide his true nature. Whatever good there is isn’t necessarily evidence that God is good.
How could the creature be greater than the creator? Can the pot tell the potter "I don't approve of you"? The potter that fears the pot doesn't exist.
OK. Several examples of good:
Health.
Safety.
Faithful friends.
A loving family.
Freedom from stress and want.
Happiness and contentment with life.
Doing what you can to help provide these to those who don’t have them.
I’d define whatever promotes these qualities as good. What do you define as good?
No, those things simply make up a generic list of common values, but they don't establish any kind of absolute metaphysic informing an "official" body of axiological principles. All you have are preferences. If we're not sociopathic/psychopathic, then we each generally lean toward the items you've listed; but there's nothing in the universe that imposes upon us a recognition of any of this stuff.
So, let's not conflate a subjectively constructed list of 'generally beneficial things for human survival' with some kind of overarching, ruling idea of the "GOOD." These are two different things ...
And what do I define as "Good"? I think you know.