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Be nice of someone might report you for flaming. God Bless you
I am addressing your content with a comprehensive comment. You stated this:
"FYI, I am trying to get you to show just one little bit of evidence of my errors. Be specific, instead of making broad judgments, backed by nothing but bluff. Amen?"

You have been provided with evidence by multiple persons. Your request implicitly calls them liars. I have given you the benefit of the doubt and not reported that post and several others of like character. I am not commenting on your motivation for that behaviour, I am not describing that behaviour.

I had you on Ignore for a while, but seem to have somehow cancelled that. That will soon be rectified.
 
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Determining truth is a question of philosophy. Facts are things you can know, things you can use as true premises. Truth is determined via sound arguments having true premises.

Regarding creationism vs evolution, the approach should be as follows:
  1. Devise the scientific method using philosophy. This project was completed long ago and continues to result in truth.
  2. Analyze the claims of creationism and evolution using the scientific method. Are these systems mutually exclusive?
  3. Where does the teaching about creationism come from? (the Bible). Is this a trustworthy source of knowledge about scientific matters? (it is not).
  4. Collect the evidence. Determine the probability each is true using induction and abduction.
 
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Then please tell us HOW men who lived 3,000 years ago could have known and written the scientific Truth announced last year, that "every living creature that moveth" was created and brought forth from WATER. It's testable evidence of the reality of God since He is the ONLY being Who could have told us this so long ago.

Breaking News, World News & Multimedia2016/07/26/science/last-universal-ancestor.html

Gen 1:21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly,

I support what I post with the agreement of Scripture, Science and History. Can you? Amen?
I didn’t ask you about a vague passage mentioning whales coming from the waters. That’s hardly insightful. You claimed that Adam existed before the Earth, and you said you could back it up scientifically. What are you waiting for?
 
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I would need proof you never murdered anyone.

You don't seem to understand my question.

What form would that evidence need to take in order for it to be convincing to you? Would you be satisfied with a lack of criminal record? Or would you settle for nothing less than following me around for every second of my life starting from birth, or would you require some sort of Vulcan mind-meld to examine my memories, or what?
 
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FYI, I am trying to get you to show just one little bit of evidence of my errors. Be specific, instead of making broad judgments, backed by nothing but bluff. Amen?

You mean like the time that I pointed out how you contradicted yourself and then you tried to get of dealing with by claiming it was not worthy of your time? Because that was, like, just the other day...
 
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FYI, I am trying to get you to show just one little bit of evidence of my errors. Be specific, instead of making broad judgments, backed by nothing but bluff. Amen?
How about the several times I have shown your outrageous claims about lake Van to be incorrect?
 
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I didn’t ask you about a vague passage mentioning whales coming from the waters. That’s hardly insightful. You claimed that Adam existed before the Earth, and you said you could back it up scientifically. What are you waiting for?

I was waiting for you to be more specific. Science is "willingly ignorant" of this event because it knows nothing of life before the Big bang of our Cosmos, so that rules out everything except Genesis. Genesis 2:4-7 shows that man (Heb-Adam) was made the 3rd Day BEFORE plants, herbs and rain.

Genesis 2:4 also shows that the present Universe was caused LATER on the 3rd Day. We know it was late on the 3rd Day/Age since it was LESS than a Billion years BEFORE the first Stars of our world, lit up on the 4th Day. Gen 1:16 and
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-first-stars-in-the-un/
 
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How about the several times I have shown your outrageous claims about lake Van to be incorrect?

It's your view based on erroneous thinking. You showed the unique spirals in Lake Van but did not explain what was under them. You seem to think that IF you reply, it should be accepted as Gospel. How bout some facts which show the reason for the largest land spirals in the world?
 
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God's word of the Bible is my sole infallible authority by which all things are to be tested as true or not.
Please test the following:

1. Should Gays be stoned to death?
2. Should I offer my eldest son to God, along with the offerings of the seasons first fruits, wine, oxen and sheep?
2a. If God tells me to kill my son or daughter (no matter what age they are), should I do so?
3. Can I sell my raped daughter to her rapist for fifty sheckels?
 
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Determining truth is a question of philosophy.
There is (or are) a system(s) that promotes this of course - the medical people want others to think they tell the truth, and if it looks otherwise it's just because other people are not trained or knowledgeable;
same with masons, carpenters, plumbers, bankers, politicians, teachers(religious and secular) ,
and perhaps almost every group on earth.
But in God's Word, Truth is never a philosophy. Jesus is Truth. God's Word is Truth. Truth never changes.
Truth has not changed over the last 2000 years, or 6000 years, or ever.
Society (mankind) changes, always getting more and more wicked, as written.
People change, always getting EITHER more RIGHTEOUS, or more wicked, as written.

But God's Word , Truth, Jesus, never changes.

Good example in some previous posts - for one, God's Word is absolute authority.
For another who does not believe God's Word, it is fallable or changeable or something else. (because the way the world and people and groups are, looking at the worldly carnal physical experience instead of at the eternal permanent unchanging nature of God and His Word .... ) ....
 
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Thanks, since that explains the reason for the 30,000 plus different denominations which are based on opinions of the religious leaders. Amen?

The mishandling of God's truth has no effect on His truth.
 
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It's your view based on erroneous thinking. You showed the unique spirals in Lake Van but did not explain what was under them. You seem to think that IF you reply, it should be accepted as Gospel. How bout some facts which show the reason for the largest land spirals in the world?
See, you just refuse to listen. I linked to information about how the "spirals" were caused by currents in the surface water of the lake. And, as a response to a direct challenge by you, I showed that lake Maracaibo in Venezuela has even larger swirl patterns, disproving that the patterns in lake Van are the largest in the world.
 
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There is (or are) a system(s) that promotes this of course - the medical people want others to think they tell the truth, and if it looks otherwise it's just because other people are not trained or knowledgeable;
same with masons, carpenters, plumbers, bankers, politicians, teachers(religious and secular) ,
and perhaps almost every group on earth.
But in God's Word, Truth is never a philosophy. Jesus is Truth. God's Word is Truth. Truth never changes.
Truth has not changed over the last 2000 years, or 6000 years, or ever.
Society (mankind) changes, always getting more and more wicked, as written.
People change, always getting EITHER more RIGHTEOUS, or more wicked, as written.

But God's Word , Truth, Jesus, never changes.

Good example in some previous posts - for one, God's Word is absolute authority.
For another who does not believe God's Word, it is fallable or changeable or something else. (because the way the world and people and groups are, looking at the worldly carnal physical experience instead of at the eternal permanent unchanging nature of God and His Word .... ) ....
This is a rare viewpoint.
True. Yes totally true, but rare. (as written "few ever find ....." )
You too then, Please feel free to answer my example questions for testing "God's Word" that "never changes"
Please test the following:

1. Should Gays be stoned to death?
2. Should I offer my eldest son to God, along with the offerings of the seasons first fruits, wine, oxen and sheep?
2a. If God tells me to kill my son or daughter (no matter what age they are), should I do so?
3. Can I sell my raped daughter to her rapist for fifty sheckels?
 
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Did you apply for copyright permission from the West Wing TV show before posting this?

Not very original. And clearly one who posts such a thing simply demonstrates that they are not really interested in a truthful discussion.
You don't like it? Why not answer the question as if you were there in person at the West Wing then, surely you have a well thought out comeback to diffuse your statement and the contradictions it created?
 
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Please test the following:

1. Should Gays be stoned to death?
2. Should I offer my eldest son to God, along with the offerings of the seasons first fruits, wine, oxen and sheep?
2a. If God tells me to kill my son or daughter (no matter what age they are), should I do so?
3. Can I sell my raped daughter to her rapist for fifty sheckels?


Answered in random order.
No.
Yes, but they won't be. They will be tossed in the lake of fire.
Will she die if you don't ? Will she die if you do ?
Yes, this is always good. (please note that this answer is not related to the above answers)
 
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