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Interesting that you love using Matthew 15:24, and yet you don't apply that verse to understand that Jesus was not talking about gentiles in the Body of Christ, during his first coming.
This is what popped into my mind:(CLV) Jer 31:31
Behold, the days are coming, averring is Yahweh, when I will contract a new covenant with the house of Israel and the house of Judah.
(CLV) Jer 31:32
Not like the covenant which I contracted with their fathers in the day I held fast onto their hand to bring them forth from the land of Egypt, which covenant of Mine they themselves annulled while I was Possessor over them, averring is Yahweh.
(CLV) Jer 31:33
For this is the covenant which I shall contract with the house of Israel after those days, averring is Yahweh: I will put My law within them, And I shall write it on their heart; I will become their Elohim, And they shall become My people.
This is the covenant. Would YHWH go back on his word, and neglect to write his Torah on the hearts of his people? Can we say that we are in this renewed covenant; if his Torah is not written on our hearts?
And how is it written in the heart of the believer? Through His Holy Spirit. This is the New Covenant His Holy Spirit dwelling in the beliver. The Spirit regenerates the true beliver and brings them into the Body of Christ. The letter condemns the Spirit renews. Blessings.(CLV) Jer 31:31
Behold, the days are coming, averring is Yahweh, when I will contract a new covenant with the house of Israel and the house of Judah.
(CLV) Jer 31:32
Not like the covenant which I contracted with their fathers in the day I held fast onto their hand to bring them forth from the land of Egypt, which covenant of Mine they themselves annulled while I was Possessor over them, averring is Yahweh.
(CLV) Jer 31:33
For this is the covenant which I shall contract with the house of Israel after those days, averring is Yahweh: I will put My law within them, And I shall write it on their heart; I will become their Elohim, And they shall become My people.
This is the covenant. Would YHWH go back on his word, and neglect to write his Torah on the hearts of his people? Can we say that we are in this renewed covenant; if his Torah is not written on our hearts?
(CLV) Jer 31:31
Behold, the days are coming, averring is Yahweh, when I will contract a new covenant with the house of Israel and the house of Judah.
(CLV) Jer 31:32
Not like the covenant which I contracted with their fathers in the day I held fast onto their hand to bring them forth from the land of Egypt, which covenant of Mine they themselves annulled while I was Possessor over them, averring is Yahweh.
(CLV) Jer 31:33
For this is the covenant which I shall contract with the house of Israel after those days, averring is Yahweh: I will put My law within them, And I shall write it on their heart; I will become their Elohim, And they shall become My people.
This is the covenant. Would YHWH go back on his word, and neglect to write his Torah on the hearts of his people? Can we say that we are in this renewed covenant; if his Torah is not written on our hearts?
The Law of Christ also known as the Law of the Spirit is written in the Hearts of New covenant believers - not 'the Ten' but the New Commandment to Love as Jesus said.
Would YHWH go back on his word
, and neglect to write his Torah on the hearts of his people?
Can we say that we are in this renewed covenant; if his Torah is not written on our hearts?
I think the issue of what is the true definition of the law of God for us today is key.No.
No.
And even in the NT we have this ... Rom 2:
25 For indeed circumcision is of value if you practice the Law; but if you are a violator of the Law, your circumcision has turned into uncircumcision. 26 So if the uncircumcised man keeps the requirements of the Law, will his uncircumcision not be regarded as circumcision? 27 And he who is physically uncircumcised, if he keeps the Law, will he not judge you who though having the letter of the Law and circumcision are a violator of the Law? 28 For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly, nor is circumcision that which is outward in the flesh. 29 But he is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the letter; and his praise is not from people, but from God.
So those trying to disconnect themselves from that are simply not thinking it through with all the details in mind.
Many will say that but have a redefined idea about what is or is not the Law of God in Jeremiah's statement
I think the issue of what is the true definition of the law of God for us today is key.
Yes - His Law as in the Law of the Spirit of life.
Not the Law of sin and death.
We are freed from the curse of the Law recorded in Deut 28.
So is the forbiding of mixing grains. Is that written in your heart?YHWH said that he would write his Torah on our hearts. The ten commandments are part of his Torah.
I'll take his word over yours. Thanks.
So is the forbiding of mixing grains. Is that written in your heart?
Okay... And following that train of thought, Jeremiah and his readers would have thought that the animal sacrifice laws were also God's laws, wouldn't they?Exegesis demands that when rendering the correct meaning of the New Covenant text Jer 31:31-34 where the New Covenant is defined - that we keep in mind "context" so as to avoid "pretext". We have to accept that Jeremiah and his readers knew full well that the moral law of God included the TEN so when they reference God's Law written on the heart and mind there is no possibility of our eisegeting "and of course Jeremiah would never have thought the Law spoken by God from Sinai was the Law of God.. nor would his readers understood the term to have that idea in it".
And when the Jer 31 NEW COVENANT is repeated verbatim in Heb 8 Paul does not qualify/edit it with "of course NOT THAT Law of God" or "of course NOT THAT New Covenant"
I was going to dive in but ..so many things here taken out of context. Then I can only guess not knowing some "words" are still being debated about there true meaning. Yet here its as if there is no debate. Then talking to other family members as if your personal view of Gods word is the only correct one? If not forgive me it for me clearly comes across that way.
Yet all this is mute when "Those are Paul's words, not YHWH's;". For me it was the sweet sweet holy Spirit that was talking through Paul same exactly holy Spirit that spoke through Moshe, Moishe, Moses (incase one gets stuck on names). It does come in handy no offense to believe like this for then you can just toss out things since it was not God just man talking. It is odd unless one does not believe we are one, Christ in the Father the Father in Christ and Christ in us .. then (Luke 11:13) the sweet sweet holy Spirit in us forever. Its odd some can not just pray and ask Him what He meant in His word.
So many things here I disagree on and with that I can say I can be wrong since as its written I do not have the right to tell anyone what Gods word really says. This could cause some to fall stumble GOD FORBID. Its ok to disagree and be wrongonly He is right. If I offended forgive me
Sorry if you were offended. I opened this thread with the clear words of YHWH himself. If find it offensive when someone responds with their misunderstanding of Paul's letters, as if it somehow supercedes the words of YHWH himself. I'll be clear. I don't believe that Paul is speaking against the most high. I believe that some are misunderstanding Paul; but if there is no misunderstanding; and Paul is contradicting YHWH; then Paul's words should be rejected. So whether or not there is any misunderstanding, on any point, by any man, whether it be in your Bible or not; if it doesn't line up with what YHWH says; then it should be rejected.
Paul taught almost exclusively from the TaNaK. He cited the TaNaK to vet his teachings. Paul is difficult to understand; and we don't need Paul to teach us when YHWH's word is perfectly clear.
The Law of Christ also known as the Law of the Spirit is written in the Hearts of New covenant believers - not 'the Ten' but the New Commandment to Love as Jesus said.
Yes - His Law as in the Law of the Spirit of life.
Not the Law of sin and death.
We are freed from the curse of the Law recorded in Deut 28.
It is clear that our friend Hark does not credit the New Testament as inspired by the Holy Spirit and dismisses the inspired words of Paul.
In this you introduce levels of inspiration in Scripture.
Is the scripture not inspired by the One Spirit ?
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