Actually, it most certainly is a thing. Human mental illness reaches all manner of strange conclusions.
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Well shoot, if this were a real mental health condition, if it had any physiological basis, if there was anyone who actually did this, we might have to have a reasoned and well-thought-out conversation about it! But, you know, it's not actually a thing, so...
Does it lead to a significantly increased suicide risk?
Its mostly about genetics, hormones, and culture, etc.
For most of us, these things make our gender identity clear. A minority, however, live in a "grey area". Thats a fact of life and nature. Dont like it? Complain to the the boss.
again, very rare. the majority of transgender people are not intersex.So... What about intersex people?
Honestly, this, more than anything, is the point of this thread. A lot of people think these are trivial, simple concerns. That "male" and "female" are simple and straightforward things, easily determined by what's in your pants when you're born, or whether you have a Y chromosome. At this point, I'm fairly certain that that isn't the case.
How do you handle transgender people? Intersex? People who do not identify with their gender with the matching organs?
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Well, the one trans person I know is probably going to grow up, be happy, and do remarkable things, in a good way. At least in her case, I'd hardly compare gender nonconformity to mental illness.A very small minority. Just as there is a small minority who will suffer from schizophrenia. Unless we have such a person in our immediate orbit, or work in the field, they have little bearing on our lives, nor we on theirs. We don't all walk around worrying about how schizoids feel about being ill, or being different. They are ill, they have doctors, and their families (hopefully) love and support them. As long as we treat mentally ill people with decency, and seek help for them when and as needed, we're doing all we need to do.
Generally speaking that IS exactly the case. There are sex selection abortions and they are determined by genitalia. Doctors for millennia have looked between the legs to declare the "it's a boy" or "it's a girl" declaration. All other situations are anomalies. This is a biological fact.Honestly, this, more than anything, is the point of this thread. A lot of people think these are trivial, simple concerns. That "male" and "female" are simple and straightforward things, easily determined by what's in your pants when you're born, or whether you have a Y chromosome. At this point, I'm fairly certain that that isn't the case.
Well, the one trans person I know is probably going to grow up, be happy, and do remarkable things, in a good way. At least in her case, I'd hardly compare gender nonconformity to mental illness.
Hey, I'm not about to disagree with half of this. If we could find a way to "fix" gender dysphoria, I'm going to go out on a limb and say that most people suffering from it would probably be pretty happy about it. Just a quick question though... If we found a way to fix it in the other direction (say, someone actually invents the Girdle of Gender Inversion from D&D), would you be just as happy for them?If I had a son who showed signs of gender confusion, I would not pander to it or encourage it in any way. As with any aberrant behaviour, I would seek to reduce or eliminate it, in the interests of easing the child's passage through life.
Hey, I'm not about to disagree with half of this. If we could find a way to "fix" gender dysphoria, I'm going to go out on a limb and say that most people suffering from it would probably be pretty happy about it. Just a quick question though... If we found a way to fix it in the other direction (say, someone actually invents the Girdle of Gender Inversion from D&D), would you be just as happy for them?
You say that as if you know how it would be for the child who's denied her preferred gender expression.Fair enough. My position is that it is indeed mental illness..
If I had a son who showed signs of gender confusion, I would not pander to it or encourage it in any way. As with any aberrant behaviour, I would seek to reduce or eliminate it, in the interests of easing the child's passage through life.
It's a magic item that, barring advanced anti-curse magic, permanently changes your character's sex. You put it on a man, and poof, you're a woman.Sorry, no idea what the Girdle of Gender inversion is
Nature is the one that defines who is a man or woman. Not pretentious activists, pseudo-science, or emotional manipulating sob story propaganda.
You say that as if you know how it would be for the child who's denied her preferred gender expression.
In the instance I know of, all manner of really awful behavioral problems 'magically' cleared up when she could finally 'come out'. Of course, it wasnt magic at all.
"Aberrant" is just another word for statistically non-majority. It doesnt mean 'wrong'. I do wonder whats more difficult: being false to yourself to conform to social norms, or facing social backlash for being true to yourself?
It's a magic item that, barring advanced anti-curse magic, permanently changes your character's sex. You put it on a man, and poof, you're a woman.
I'm mostly just wondering if you'd be okay if we cure this in both ways.Okay, but what do you mean by 'would you be happy'? Happy to have a 'cure' for gender confusion? If that's the question, then I'd have to say yes. Just as I'd like to see a 'cure' for schizophrenia. Not because I have some moral objection to schizophrenia - but because the sufferer has such a difficult journey.
The world is not a place of personal discovery and expression, to do what one thinks is best. But rather, it is the expression of the One who created it. As such, the only personal part we have, is in finding just where we fit in...or not.This one is targeted at those who think there is no meaningful distinction between sex, gender identity, and gender expression (á la this convenient graphic).
What characteristic determines whether someone is a man or a woman?
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