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How do I stop worrying about people in hell?

kranberrydude

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The fact that the people in hell are gonna suffer there forever gives me heartaches since my compassion for people has grown.
Should I see them as i see satan? Wicked, so I don't feel any compassion for the condemed? How do you see them?
 
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kranberrydude,

This is actually quite a hard question.

We are to love all men and I think it is good of you to feel compassion for them however you need to remember that everyone makes a choice to either accept or reject God. All our choices have consenquences, and every person reaps what they sow.

Galations 6:8
For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.

John 3:19-20
This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that his deeds will be exposed.

All my aunts, uncles, cousins and grandparents are unsaved. Yet I know that since they consciously choose to reject Christ and carry on in their sins they deserve Hell for their choice. All I can do and indeed you too, is be a good witness, to be there for them should they have any questions about God. And try to preach to them when an opportune time appears.

2 Timothy 4:2
Preach the Word; be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage--with great patience and careful instruction.

1 Peter 3:15
But in your hearts set apart Christ as Lord. Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect, keeping a clear conscience, so that those who speak maliciously against your good behavior in Christ may be ashamed of their slander.

I hope this helps.


God bless.
 
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kranberrydude

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Yeah thanks for your answer and for include bible backup.
Adding to your complete answer, I think it also has to do with loving people above God, since I know I'm a people-pleaser I look upon them more than I should.
 
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But also remember, God wants them saved even more than you do. He will do everything possible to get them into heaven. He won't make the choice for them. He does not violate our free will to choose, but He will give them chance after chance after chance. It is not His will that any should perish.
 
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I have struggled with this also, having unsaved family members, but as my Pastor has told me, Denise, you cannot save anyone..... took me sometime to realize that. Only God can.
maybe this might be of some help maybe???? I Pray:prayer:

It’s hard to imagine that we can be happy in heaven if we have an awareness that those we loved on earth are not present. We do know that when we arrive in Heaven, we will not have anything to be saddened by. Revelation 21:4tells us, “He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.” Missing our loved ones would presumably fall under the category of pain or mourning. Perhaps we will have no knowledge or remembrance of them at all. Perhaps we will have come to see things from a heavenly perspective and will understand why our loved ones not being there somehow glorifies God and will rejoice. We do know that we will finally see everything from God’s perspective, something which is impossible now. “Now all we can see of God is like a cloudy picture in a mirror. Later we will see him face to face. We don't know everything, but then we will, just as God completely understands us” 1 Corinthians 13:12 . In the meantime, we must accept by faith that what He says about Heaven is true and that we will have only joy for all eternity.


God Bless you, and the Only thing we can do is be a witness for Christ, tell people what He has done for us. Let Him speak through us. He will Guide us in what to say. If it is His will.
 
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Miss-a:
I wonder how Are people that deny Him with all these chances.
Thanks for your words.

Blessedmomof5:
very true, the only thing we can do is be a witness for Christ.
Also I agree about what you say regarding the heavenly perspective.
Thanks, appreciate it.
 
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The fact that the people in hell are gonna suffer there forever gives me heartaches since my compassion for people has grown.
Should I see them as i see satan? Wicked, so I don't feel any compassion for the condemed? How do you see them?


Sirach
Chapter 3:

21 What is committed to you, attend to; for what is hidden is not your concern.

22 With what is too much for you meddle not, when shown things beyond human understanding.

23 Their own opinion has misled many, and false reasoning unbalanced their judgment.


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Of course, yes, we must have much compassion for people that have not been transformed by the Spirit of God. Everyone must be born again before he or she can enter heaven. Those who are consigned to hell will suffer the remorse of the knowledge that they had opportunities to chose Jesus Christ as their Savior, but they rejected Him.

God gives you that compassion and even sadness at the thoughts of their fates to encourage you to pray and gently witness the Gospel. There is hope as long as people are in this earthly life. Have you ever been surprised, even amazed, when someone you thought had little interest in God suddenly falls to their knees and cries to God for forgiveness? I surely have. Being a mature Christian is to step out of our own concerns for a while and take on the burden of God in the way Jesus would do it. Not of our own, but asking for the anointing of the Holy Spirit and by His power.
 
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GOD'S WORD says:


YOU SHALL BE INVITED MANY TIMES

So while it's sad we must UNDERSTAND that we all had the same chance and they made their decision. They turned out to be rejects of GOD'S CREATION. Yet I know GOD loved their souls. So to be honest I really don't have compassion for someone that rejected their CREATOR'S LOVE.

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Miss-a:
yeah I'm gonna make a short prayer here:
Father I ask you that you put in us a spirit of compassion so we can pray for the lost,
that their cold hearts may get warm toward you as your daughter say, in Jesus name We all agree on this, amen.


Shetlandrose:
yeah I believe He gives me us compassion so we may pray and gently preach.

Wonderwaleye:
I liked the Sirach verses; what is not of my concern should not be of my concern.
 
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The fact that the people in hell are gonna suffer there forever gives me heartaches since my compassion for people has grown.
Should I see them as i see satan? Wicked, so I don't feel any compassion for the condemed? How do you see them?


Well. You need some context there to understand "why" they are in Hell in the first place.

You see, they are children of the Devil, and because of that they were responsible for the evil deeds of all other evil people through history. Imagine, for instance, how many wicked children of the Devil posed as "Children of God" doing "the work of God" or whatever their concept of "good" and killing people in the name of God thinking they were doing God a favor.

And they never stopped, but rather the evil grew and grew.

It didn't matter that Jesus came and warned people of these very things. They did it anyway, even in the Name of Jesus.

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Iron Maiden used as an instrument by "Christians" and Nazis to kill Christians and Jews.

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Joan of Arc, a mere teenage girl who followed God's instruction, first imprisoned, ruthlessly put on trial, then burned alive at the stake.


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Christians fed to the lions and other horrors done en masse to them by the Romans.


The Holocaust. Stalin. Pol Pot.

I should not even need mention crucifixions.

What a lot of people do not realize is crucifixions were designed as the most horrible way to kill someone: they would die from heart failure after prolonged exposure and stress. It was a slow but certain death. Peter refused to be crucified right side up and so was crucified upside down.

Before Jesus, the slave leader Spartacus rebelled against the Romans and the Romans lined the roads with all of the rebellious slaves when they finally won against them.


Unfortunately, the list goes on and on, and many of these horrors, sadly, continue to this very day: child sexual predators, serial killers, government sponsored torture involving mutilation and dismemberment, assassinations of family members, beheadings, burning people alive, and so on.


Now someone may say, "Oh, but I am not that bad and never did any such thing". But isn't it not like that, or why would Jesus have said to those who wanted to get inside, "Off, you, to the fire prepared for the Devil and his angels".

Same fire. Same punishment.


Men, in their sick imaginations, created the Bosch like landscape of Hell where some were "tinged with pain" forever and ever... and others horrendously burning in shame.


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It is like a conspiracy, where maybe there was a cult leader or other leader, but everyone who was involved, big and small, helped everyone else of their group.


Consider a cult that is very wicked: okay, so the leader was the one who fooled everyone, but the actual cult members were the ones who empowered him to do this.



But... but... but... how profound is the forgiveness of God? How deep His Love? How impossible His salvation? We, ourselves, are sinners: but He is love. We do not save ourselves, but we trust in Him to save us.


And I think He can.


Like Jonah and Nineveh.

However, I could see how that could be very debatable when considering the historical context of how people think of Hell. That 'there is no way out of Hell', and so on. Maybe... there is.

Is all I am saying.


If, if... people can believe.


OTOH, maybe it is sinful to even consider that one might now - all of a sudden - believe when they find themselves in the fire. How dare they. They probably won't even right away remember who they were or what they did in some horrible attempt of their mind to escape the simple truth that had been plaguing them all along since they first entered Hell... the mind does anything and everything to try and escape certain horror and damnation, refusing to attempt the truth of their own crimes... even to the point of creating and sustaining long term amnesia.

I, personally, however, believe this is not the case, and God very well may offer repentance to all and everyone after some time of punishment. And genuine repentance.


As a "for instance" I was just reading today about how prisoners in Saudi Arabia were allowed to leave once they proved they had changed their minds about the violent interpretation of Islam. That is, the Saudis, taking the G-Bay prisoners, treating them as sons and brothers lost, to be redeemed and changed. Some are stubborn and refuse to believe. Others have, change, and are released from jail.

At G-Bay, they said, they were often treated cruelly by the Americans, but one said he understood because they probably wanted to enact some kind of vengeance. (Another one mentioned this, but also said that the new guys would get to know him and treat him humanely and decently.)


Would God do the later or the former?


(And do not try and deduce my stance on Saudi Arabia, I think that nation is seriously messed up. Also, I could point out how hard it is to tell if someone is really reformed and many released from G-Bay later went on right back into terrorism.)


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The fact that the people in hell are gonna suffer there forever gives me heartaches since my compassion for people has grown.
Should I see them as i see satan? Wicked, so I don't feel any compassion for the condemed? How do you see them?

What gets me on this subject is how people so often say they are bothered by the vast majority of the world's population going to Hell forever and ever... but their words and actions in general show otherwise.

I view it like Solomon's Baby test for which mother had the love for the baby, the true, motherly love. Both mothers claimed to love or have ownership of the baby... which implied love... yet, one was perfectly fine with having the baby cut in two.

Our modern shows are a good example of the heroic and what people will do when they care about the loss of life: shows like 24 or the Die Hard series, and so many countless others show people running wild and doing anything and everything they can... often just to prevent the deaths of a few thousand lives, or even just one special life.


I am not saying, "Oh, well then, this is what you should do if you really love". There is no list here I could provide that could say "what to do". If there were, it would be faked.

People would act out what they should do, and end up living by a false standard that doesn't require heart at all.


I know I feel great about what I did. I can't even begin to document that, but I will say I threw out everything else and put that as my first priority. Then I researched hard core to make sure I would go on the right track. Unlike theorists, I was interested in what would work. And I suffered hard core for many years doing a great many things to accomplish my goals. I found that God then revealed to me as He had been showing me all along... I was on the right track.

And the whole plan was God's from the beginning. Everything I ended up doing, and so much I didn't even realize...

But, the first thing one should do is royally freak out when they realize they can actually *do* something.

Just like some guy in a movie seeing a terrorist plot they have to stop.
 
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ChildofGod:
Thanks for your vast knowledge, very profound for me.

Mister__Al:
Instead feel sorry for those that are alive and are going to hell. There's something you can do to help them
Which is the reason I think God put me this into my heart so i may channel it for the unsaved.



Alatir:
Appreciate the resources, gonna check on them.
thnkx.
 
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The fact that the people in hell are gonna suffer there forever gives me heartaches since my compassion for people has grown.
Should I see them as i see satan? Wicked, so I don't feel any compassion for the condemed? How do you see them?

What about having compassion for GOD on the LOVE HE gave them only to be rejected by HIS CREATION. If you were GOD just what you do to these rejects? Would you pull them out of the fires of hell to share the KINGDOM of ALMIGHTY GOD with those that devoted their life to GOD? Or would you say:

BURN BABY, BURN!!! ??? :thumbsup:

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Dear Kranberrydude. I say this with love, but worry does not help anybody, it is prayer, deep and daily prayer. Keep praying for your loved ones, tell them about God`s Love every opportunity you have, Love is our greatest weapon, Kranberrydude. Don`t let Satan see your worry, trust God. Remember the reluctant Judge and the persistant widow, Jesus told us about? Keep bringing your prayers to God; God Knows, God Can help, and God Will help. I say this with love and blessed assurance. Greetings from Emmy, your sister in Christ.
 
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