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How did apes evolvle into humans?

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Freodin

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Carico said:
Jesus said "He who is not with me is against me." You cannot be both. You cannot both say you believe Jesus is telling the truth and that he is lying at the same time. It's one or the other. Jesus says he was with his Father in the beginning when man was first created.
Perhaps he said that. Perhaps he meant what you think.

And perhaps he didn´t.

Everything you hear and read is interpreted, and interpretations can be wrong - as I will show with the rest of your post.

That's why Genesis uses the word; "we" when describing who created the world.
That, for example, is an interpretation. It is possible that it is correct, but other potentially correct interpretations exist. Perhaps God was talking to Satan or the Angels. Perhaps to his consort, Astera, who got edited out lated when Judaism became truely monotheistic. Perhaps the author had God speaking in a Pluralis Majestatis? All possible interpretations, and the Bible is quite about the correct one.

And Genesis was written thousands of years before jesus walked on the earth!
This is simply wrong. Evidence exist that Genesis was written just a few hundred years before Jesus, at a time where Judaism had to defend its existence against a competing belief system - the Babylonian.

But even if you assume that the Mosaian authorship is correct, Genesis would have been written not quite 1,500 years before Jesus.

The Jews and all anient people will confirm that.
"The Jews" might agree to the Mosaian authorship - which would still disagree with "thousands of years" - and which would still not mean that they are correct.
And no other "ancient people" confirms this story.

If you believe Christ's words in the bible, then why would you not believe Genesis? If you only believe part of the bible, then how do you know which parts are true and which are not? Just a guess?
Obviously, you believe things that can be shown to be incorrect. Usually, this is no problem - we are humans, and can make mistakes. Yet there are ways to find out if our positions are wrong - and only if you deny using these ways do mistakes become dangerous.
 
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charlesseamanj said:
Well here is a simple summary.
By impossable random copying errors and flukes.
Sounds funny doesn't it? ;)

Yes, sounds funny. It might be so, because it is simply wrong.

Change is inevitable. There is no way to keep a species from changing.

Now the only question is - what does it change to?

"Apes" seem to have changed into "humans". Had they changed into something different with the capacity to ponder these questions, this new species would set at their keyboards and write posts via the Internet.
 
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Freodin said:
Yes, sounds funny. It might be so, because it is simply wrong.

Change is inevitable. There is no way to keep a species from changing.

Now the only question is - what does it change to?

"Apes" seem to have changed into "humans". Had they changed into something different with the capacity to ponder these questions, this new species would set at their keyboards and write posts via the Internet.

It changes from good to bad then to UGLY!
 
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simi said:
*sigh* i know populations evolve over time. It is a result of genetic mishaps that happen and cannot be stopped. DNA is not perfect and it will continue to mutate and cause genes. But i dont see how it can change this much. Eg breeds of cats and dogs and different species of birds have evolved this way.

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There is much more hope for you than Carico. The key is time. It is hard to look at the intricacies of a human being or a cat or a dog and not see the hand of a creator. BUT, it is just as hard to fathom how long three and a half billion years is. Or to wrap your head around 600 million years.
We have arrived at the very end of a process that has been occuring for so many years before we existed, that it has become counter-intuitive to understand how it happened. We see the end result, without being there for the baby steps.
Ever walked up a mountain? Sometimes when you look back, it is hard to believe how high you have climbed. Same thing here. Just on a far far larger scale. Try to picture walking for a million years and more!
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Carico said:
Sorry, but your explanations are contradictory and blindsighted. But I guess you'll have to wait until you die to find out who created man. And I guarantee the experience won't be a pleasant one. :(

Maybe you could remove the plank from your own eye before attending to the speck in your neighbors.
 
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john crawford said:
Populations don't evolve if individuals don't since mutations first occur on an individual basis.

Any theory of human evolution is racist since the first premise of human evolution is that the first African people closely resembled non-human ape-like creatures from Africa.


PROVE IT OR RETRACT IT
Find a reference from a current biology text book, or evolutionary science text book, that says this.

 
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Praxiteles said:
Gosh, no!

Cambrian explosion, eh? What is that? Please, tell us all about it!

:D

Maybe I'm just brain-tired, but that was funny. It's interesting how creationists tend to act like we haven't heard of these things before.
 
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Mechanical Bliss said:
:D

Maybe I'm just brain-tired, but that was funny. It's interesting how creationists tend to act like we haven't heard of these things before.

Interesting indeed.

I think they get loaded up with magic bullets at Church or youth group or whatever, and come in here eager to fire them off at evilution. Unfortunately for them, they're either firing them at the wrong targets, or their magic bullets aren't so magic.

Also, you're most likely just brain-tired.
 
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nvxplorer said:
Isn't the Cambrian explosion when all the stuff exploded? You know, what was it called...the big explosion? The big burst? The big loud noise? I know I've heard of it before...

Oh yes!

Now I remember!


It's when all of those fossils started spinning, and then spun (or was it span?) faster and faster until they exploded and made the universe.

Two planets spun backwards though. They were probably caused by faked transitional fossils.
 
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Praxiteles said:
Oh yes!

Now I remember!


It's when all of those fossils started spinning, and then spun (or was it span?) faster and faster until they exploded and made the universe.

Two planets spun backwards though. They were probably caused by faked transitional fossils.
*smacks head*

The spinning! The spinning. I forgot about the spinning.

*reaches for a bottle of Bayer* (damn German chemists)
 
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Nathan Poe said:
The Big Boom?

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