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This doesn’t answer my questionIsaiah 5:13 Therefore my people are gone into captivity for lack of knowledge; and [g]their honorable men are famished, and their multitude are parched with thirst. 14 Therefore Sheol hath enlarged its desire, and opened its mouth without measure; and their glory, and their multitude, and their [h]pomp, and he that rejoiceth among them, descend into it.
One of Your questions: The Chinese sell bats in a food market and the creatures are known to carry infections and when an infection is spread to the people there, God was supposed to have given His permission for this. If no one asks God’s permission how is He giving it? What if He told the Chinese no and they did it anyway? That wouldn’t be a first.This doesn’t answer my question
That wasn’t the point. The point was the Chinese DONT ask God and neither do most of the world so how is God giving permission? Permission requires being asked.One of Your questions: The Chinese sell bats in a food market and the creatures are known to carry infections and when an infection is spread to the people there, God was supposed to have given His permission for this. If no one asks God’s permission how is He giving it? What if He told the Chinese no and they did it anyway? That wouldn’t be a first.
There are two reasons why the Chinese would do this, the people selling lack knowledge and the government regulating lacks knowledge. Either way the OT is very clear on what is and is not kosher and selling bats in a food market is not kosher.
My point is that God has already made it clear that this is unclean. This disease therefore can show that that no flesh should glory before God. 1Cor 1:29That wasn’t the point. The point was the Chinese DONT ask God and neither do most of the world so how is God giving permission? Permission requires being asked.
Amen.Jeremiah 9:23 Thus saith Jehovah, Let not the wise man glory in his wisdom, neither let the mighty man glory in his might, let not the rich man glory in his riches; 24 but let him that glorieth glory in this, that he hath understanding, and knoweth me, that I am Jehovah who exerciseth lovingkindness, justice, and righteousness, in the earth: for in these things I delight, saith Jehovah.
That is not the complaint. We have already gone over this but I'll do it again. John says that all things came into being because of the word and apart from the word there is nothing that has come into being. This "all things" and "nothing" should also include people like Hitler, serial killers, genocide, and what we generally refer to as evil.That wasn’t the point. The point was the Chinese DONT ask God and neither do most of the world so how is God giving permission? Permission requires being asked.
No, I don't. The "problem of evil" presupposes this. You can google this. I have merely restated this problem before responding to it. I have already shown the fallacy in this in posts #6, #14 and #20.--Brother, you presuppose that evil may only originate from evil; if that were true, then God would be evil, because everything originates from God.
That is not the complaint. We have already gone over this but I'll do it again. John says that all things came into being because of the word and apart from the word there is nothing that has come into being. This "all things" and "nothing" should also include people like Hitler, serial killers, genocide, and what we generally refer to as evil.
In an earlier post I quoted the Lord in the OT saying nothing happens without Him giving the command.
If you say that we did things without God knowing or without God being in charge then you are denying that God is omniscient or omnipotent.
If I am in charge of a business and someone in my employ commits a crime using my business, then it looks very bad for me. Either I am involved, or I am a very poor overseer of my business. That is the question. I answer this in posts #6, #14 and #20
Isaiah 5:13 Therefore my people are gone into captivity for lack of knowledge; and [g]their honorable men are famished, and their multitude are parched with thirst. 14 Therefore Sheol hath enlarged its desire, and opened its mouth without measure; and their glory, and their multitude, and their [h]pomp, and he that rejoiceth among them, descend into it.
I must apologize: I don't read other posts, I simply respond to posts made to me.No, I don't. The "problem of evil" presupposes this. You can google this. I have merely restated this problem before responding to it. I have already shown the fallacy in this in posts #6, #14 and #20.
Ok, you can’t answer my question, I get it.My point is that God has already made it clear that this is unclean. This disease therefore can show that that no flesh should glory before God. 1Cor 1:29
Choose to ignore his word at your peril.
You are wrong. God finished creating long ago and has not created since He rested.That is not the complaint. We have already gone over this but I'll do it again. John says that all things came into being because of the word and apart from the word there is nothing that has come into being. This "all things" and "nothing" should also include people like Hitler, serial killers, genocide, and what we generally refer to as evil.
Better do it again and I’ll give you the verse where he said the Israelies did what never had come to his mind. There’s a problem because he cannot give a command to them to do what never had occurred to him.In an earlier post I quoted the Lord in the OT saying nothing happens without Him giving the command.
Nonsense. If you say God commands all the evil men and devils do, you are denying he is good.If you say that we did things without God knowing or without God being in charge then you are denying that God is omniscient or omnipotent.
No man in charge of a country is accountable for every crime done in the country. You make God accountable for all the sin men do.If I am in charge of a business and someone in my employ commits a crime using my business, then it looks very bad for me. Either I am involved, or I am a very poor overseer of my business. That is the question. I answer this in posts #6, #14 and #20
When I said "that is the complaint" I was saying that is "the problem of evil". It is not my complaint, I am simply explaining the complaint.You are wrong. God finished creating long ago and has not created since He rested.
The world he created had within it the power to continue reproducing life. He wasn’t doing that.
So He isn’t creating babies, we are. He isn’t creating evil people, we are.
You can attribute evil to his hands but it’s not something anyone who knows Him would advise.
We have provided numerous verses referencing this. Do you read anything more than just the title of a thread?The title assumes facts not in evidence. Where is the evidence that God gives permission for the plague? Who asked him and who did he give permission to?
Did you read my posts #6, #14 and #20? If 3 verses prove that God is not responsible for evil what about these verses?God isn't responsible for sin, according to scripture.
God cannot be tempted by evil, and He Himself does not tempt anyone" (James 1:13). "God is light, and in Him there is no darkness at all" (1 John 1:5). "God is not the author of confusion" (1 Corinthians 14:33)—and if that is true, He cannot in any way be the author of evil.
Sin is not itself a thing created. Sin is neither substance, being, spirit, nor matter. So it is technically not right to think of sin as something that was created.
Sin is simply a lack of moral perfection in a person. The sinners themselves bear full responsibility for their sin.
Read them in context. God allows his people to suffer for their rebellion by removing his protection on them. It's not about God inventing evil, but he does allow it at times to punish those who deserve punishment.Did you read my posts #6, #14 and #20? If 3 verses prove that God is not responsible for evil what about these verses?
Isa 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Amo 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
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