Hillary Clinton calls for "Formal Deprogramming" of Trump supporters

[MotoToTheMax]

Is there much precedent for allowing the "not-in-power party" in the house to have the speaker role?

I'm not recalling any instances of that.

Of course not. I'm just using an equally absurd argument as "It's the Democrat's fault for not voting for McCarthy."

Pretty dumb if you ask me

 

[ThatRobGuy]

The chant was Lock Her Up, when there had been no official charges or conviction of guilt and after an investigation. Lock her up without due process - guilty without a trial.
Using the logic in this thread, where one statement about a possibility regarding a few because every one of the 75 mil that voted for Trump, the same can be applied to Trump's lock her up chant. He wants ALL 81 mil that voted for Biden locked up.
Using the same logic in regards to his comment about General Milley, Trump wants all who disagree with him executed.

Trump makes some statements and conveys some ideas that are very troubling (I certainly haven't/won't vote for him).

That being said, with regards to the "deprogramming" (whatever that means, exactly?) If the Democrats were looking for a way to break the attachment some people have to Trump, they've been going about the wrong way.

Clearly the "bad mouth him and put a magnifying glass on every lousy thing he does on a 24-hr loop" approach isn't bearing much fruit.

The better approach would seem to be allowing them to forget about him and move on to someone else. And they were, (they were starting to rally behind DeSantis), until the left basically made Trump a martyr in the eyes of many republicans, and now they're back to backing Trump again.

The left needs to learn some better reverse psychology strategies lol. Getting the MAGA types off of Trump and onto someone else would be as simple as finding the Republican they find to be the least objectionable, start going after them, and then the MAGA types will rally behind that person just to spite the other side.

I think the left has been shortsighted in assuming that people love Trump because they love extreme rhetoric and narcissism (these are a lot of the same people who rallied behind Mitt Romney 4 years prior), They love Trump because they know Trump agitates the people they find to be annoying and bossy.

Evidence of that? Many of the people who love Trump also love RFK Jr. Why they would rally behind a guy who's anti-fossil fuel, pro-universal healthcare, pro gay marriage, pro-marijuana? Simple, because they know the people they find to be annoying don't like him.

As I told my cousin at our last game night (she's extremely far-left) "It's not because they love Trump, it's because they don't like you being all preachy and bossy and telling them what to do"

 

[ozso]

I can see how a post would want to try and label asking for evidence of GOP propaganda as "convoluted". I'm not sure anyone's going to fall for it, though.

No it's going on and on about the supposed motives of posters, rather than sticking to the topic.

 

[dzheremi]

The Republicans control the House. If they actually could govern they would be able to have a Speaker in place without having to rely on Democrats to help them out. The Democrats didn’t need Republicans to make Pelosi speaker. They were able to do that on their own. It’s pathetic Republicans are crying about how Democrats didn’t save Republicans from shooting themselves in the foot. It show the “Party of Personal Responsibility” mantra is nothing but a bald face lie.

They mean personal responsibility for other people, like the poor, disabled, and other subhumans who would require assistance beyond bootstrap-pulling. They don't mean for themselves. There's no need to count on personal responsibility when you're "too big to fail', as they know the government is (and so they're happy with it being that way, despite their other mantra about "small government"). House Republicans were never going to have to worry about how their children (or, with the age of the current crop of leaders, their grandchildren) would be able to eat during a government shutdown, unlike the poor, probably Democratic-voting families on WIC assistance, so they were fine with shutting everything down to make a point about how everyone should have to kowtow to MAGA brainslug-havers. Now when they find that there are real consequences to their shenanigans that aren't ameliorated by providing super-awesome videoclips of them being mad to be played on Fox News, the refrain is "The Democrats aren't coming to save us!"

Yeah, and? Do the Democrats owe it to you, Republican members of the House, to vote for a Speaker from your party, despite it being your party, not theirs? I didn't think so, but maybe there's some kind of rarely used bipartisan emergency button that magically turns Democrats into Republicans whenever the extremist wing of the GOP steps in it a bit too often and can't seems to clean themselves up without assistance from the adults in the room.

 

[FreeinChrist]

That being said, with regards to the "deprogramming" (whatever that means, exactly?) If the Democrats were looking for a way to break the attachment some people have to Trump, they've been going about the wrong way.

You do realize the deprogamming hysteria here is all about a single off the cuff comment that Hillary Clinton made in an interview?

Some on the right are so easily triggered apparently.

 

[ozso]

You do realize the deprogamming hysteria here is all about a single off the cuff comment that Hillary Clinton made in an interview?

Some on the right are so easily triggered apparently.

There's all of the other comments from Biden and others about a dangerous cult that's a threat to democracy and national security which augments Clinton's comment.

 

[FreeinChrist]

There's all of the other comments from Biden and others about a dangerous cult that's a threat to democracy and national security which augments Clinton's comment.

It doesn't help that Trump leaked classified information , like:

Hillary Clinton calls for "Formal Deprogramming" of Trump supporters

Is there much precedent for allowing the "not-in-power party" in the house to have the speaker role? I'm not recalling any instances of that. Of course not. I'm just using an equally absurd argument as "It's the Democrat's fault for not voting for McCarthy." Pretty dumb if you ask me

www.christianforums.com

The classified intelligence that President Trump disclosed in a meeting last week with Russian officials at the White House was provided by Israel, according to a current and a former American official familiar with how the United States obtained the information. The revelation adds a potential diplomatic complication to an episode that has renewed questions about how the White House handles sensitive intelligence.​

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That was when Trump allowed Russian officials into the Oval Office with Russian photographers.... and they could have put listening devices in the Oval office.

The Key Nuclear Secrets Trump Allegedly Leaked

Former President Donald Trump has repeatedly been accused of leaking US secrets, but the latest allegations against him involve key details about some of the most sensitive weapons in the US nuclear arsenal.

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Former President Donald Trump has repeatedly been accused of leaking US secrets, but the latest allegations against him involve key details about some of the most sensitive weapons in the US nuclear arsenal.​

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Trump gave key details on the US Navy's elite submarine fleet - including the number of nuclear warheads they can carry and how close they can get to Russian vessels without being detected - to Australian billionaire Anthony Pratt, who passed the information on to dozens of friends and contacts, according to ABC News and The New York Times.​

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The alleged disclosure is only the latest in a string of cases that raise grave questions about Trump's willingness to keep the nation's secrets - an issue that's only going to remain front and center given his commanding lead in the polls to secure the Republican nomination to challenge President Joe Biden again next year.​

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And there is how Trump tried to hide classified data in Mar-a-lago and had employees move the stuff around before the FBI came.
The blind devotion seen in a number of supporters is sad.

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[Green Sun]

And democrats working as one to make sure it happened. Now they cry about there not being a House speaker and things not getting done as a result, and then blame Republicans for it.
If the government shuts down about a month from now, it will be the fault of every democrat in the House. The record shows it.

Please don't bother replying to me if you won't give me the respect of answering the question I asked. It's a little insulting.

 

[Green Sun]

Is there much precedent for allowing the "not-in-power party" in the house to have the speaker role?

I'm not recalling any instances of that.

As far as I'm aware, no - Though, a Speaker has never actually been removed through a vote, either.

 

[Green Sun]

Why don’t Republicans take responsibility for their actions? They wanted control of the House and they got it. Why can’t they govern? Why is it the Democrats fault the Republicans can’t stop fighting amongst themselves?

Why should the Democrats have saved McCarthy? Instead of extending an olive branch, he blamed them for the continuing resolution that McCarthy himself brought to the floor. The Democrats want Hakeem Jefferies as Speaker and they see an opportunity to achieve that. If the Republicans had any discipline, the Democrats never would have a deal of achieving that. Now they do and Republicans are crying because the mean Democrats aren’t saving the Republicans from their worst impulses.

Why can’t Republicans be smart enough to get a speaker in position? They have the votes that the Democrats can literally do nothing to stop them. Why can’t the Republicans do that?

Don't forget, Republicans bragged during the debate before the vote to remove McCarthy that the House GOP could pass "Republican-only" legislation, that their party was able to do whatever they wanted without needing to cross the aisle.

Republicans said they can do it without help, McCarthy stated he didn't want Democratic help. If they wanted help, they needed to ask for it, they need to work with Dems, rather then spending every waking moment demonizing them.

 

[RileyG]

In Hillary's latest Orwellian recommendation, no doubt for the government to administer.....

Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton railed against supporters of former President Trump during a new CNN interview, comparing those who still support the former president after the Jan. 6, 2021, insurrection to members of a cult.

“Maybe there needs to be a formal deprogramming of the cult members,” she said in a clip released late Thursday.

“And sadly, so many of those extremists, those MAGA extremists, take their marching orders from Donald Trump, who has no credibility left by any measure,” Clinton added. “He’s only in it for himself.”

Hillary Clinton: MAGA ‘cult members’ need ‘deprogramming’

Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton railed against supporters of former President Trump during a new CNN interview, comparing those who still support the former president after the Jan. 6, 20…

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I don't care what Hillary says and I never trusted her. She is now irrelevant.

 

[FreeinChrist]

I'm sorry but I don't see what that has to do with those on the right being sensitive about things said against them by the left.

Sorry if I don't have sympathy there. The right has often been absolutely despictable about the left.
Seems to me the left weathers it better than the right.

 

[ozso]

It doesn't help that Trump leaked classified information , like:

Hillary Clinton calls for "Formal Deprogramming" of Trump supporters

Is there much precedent for allowing the "not-in-power party" in the house to have the speaker role? I'm not recalling any instances of that. Of course not. I'm just using an equally absurd argument as "It's the Democrat's fault for not voting for McCarthy." Pretty dumb if you ask me

www.christianforums.com

The classified intelligence that President Trump disclosed in a meeting last week with Russian officials at the White House was provided by Israel, according to a current and a former American official familiar with how the United States obtained the information. The revelation adds a potential diplomatic complication to an episode that has renewed questions about how the White House handles sensitive intelligence.​

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That was when Trump allowed Russian officials into the Oval Office with Russian photographers.... and they could have put listening devices in the Oval office.

The Key Nuclear Secrets Trump Allegedly Leaked

Former President Donald Trump has repeatedly been accused of leaking US secrets, but the latest allegations against him involve key details about some of the most sensitive weapons in the US nuclear arsenal.

www.ndtv.com

Former President Donald Trump has repeatedly been accused of leaking US secrets, but the latest allegations against him involve key details about some of the most sensitive weapons in the US nuclear arsenal.​

​

Trump gave key details on the US Navy's elite submarine fleet - including the number of nuclear warheads they can carry and how close they can get to Russian vessels without being detected - to Australian billionaire Anthony Pratt, who passed the information on to dozens of friends and contacts, according to ABC News and The New York Times.​

​

The alleged disclosure is only the latest in a string of cases that raise grave questions about Trump's willingness to keep the nation's secrets - an issue that's only going to remain front and center given his commanding lead in the polls to secure the Republican nomination to challenge President Joe Biden again next year.​

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And there is how Trump tried to hide classified data in Mar-a-lago and had employees move the stuff around before the FBI came.
The blind devotion seen in a number of supporters is sad.

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I'm sorry but I don't see what that has to do with the right being triggered by Clinton's comment, considering all of the other comments made by the left about them being a dangerous cult that's a threat to national security etc. I see Clinton's comment on top of all the others made by the left against the right, being a straw that broke the camel's back.

 

[ozso]

Sorry if I don't have sympathy there. The right has often been absolutely despictable about the left.
Seems to me the left weathers it better than the right.

You questioned why an off the cuff comment got so much attention and I explained why I think that happened.

 

[A2SG]

Please repost the post claiming that Hillary proposed a law to reprogram Trump supporters

She never proposed any such law, nor any law of any sort. But that hasn't stopped some from clutching their pearls and acting as if she had. Look at the title of this very thread: "Hillary Clinton calls for "Formal Deprogramming" of Trump supporters"

She didn't "call for" any such thing. She specifically said: "Maybe there needs to be..." Not "I call for..."

-- A2SG, you did hear that part, right?

 

[A2SG]

You questioned why an off the cuff comment got so much attention and I explained why I think that happened.

That's easily explained. Trump supporters needed something new to be outraged about.

-- A2SG, it also keeps the headlines away from Donald's guilty fraud verdict...

 

[USincognito]

Democrats ALL voted to oust MacCarthy and leave the House without a speaker. That's the fact.
Therefore, they have no reason to complain about the current situation. It would have been different if even a few of them would have shown the courage to vote against their own party, but not a single one of them showed that courage.

I'm starting to wonder if this is some Poe's Law level performance art.

 

[ozso]

I'm starting to wonder if this is some Poe's Law level performance art.

That video doesn't have anything to do with democrats carping over the outcome of what they all voted for. Which in turn doesn't have anything to do with the topic of this thread. How about putting an end to red herring derails and staying on topic?

 

[Pommer]

Why don’t Republicans take responsibility for their actions? They wanted control of the House and they got it. Why can’t they govern? Why is it the Democrats fault the Republicans can’t stop fighting amongst themselves?

Why should the Democrats have saved McCarthy? Instead of extending an olive branch, he blamed them for the continuing resolution that McCarthy himself brought to the floor. The Democrats want Hakeem Jefferies as Speaker and they see an opportunity to achieve that. If the Republicans had any discipline, the Democrats never would have a deal of achieving that. Now they do and Republicans are crying because the mean Democrats aren’t saving the Republicans from their worst impulses.

Why can’t Republicans be smart enough to get a speaker in position? They have the votes that the Democrats can literally do nothing to stop them. Why can’t the Republicans do that?

The die was cast when President Trump assured his acolytes followers that the Democrats “stole the election”; the unspoken part was that the GOP would have had to have been mind-numbingly incompetent to “allow” this to happen under their very noses, in states they controlled (AZ, GA).

Bad political thing happens: blame the Democrats

This isn’t “new”.

 

[com7fy8]

I mainly hear about her on this forum.

I suppose so we can call attention to her so we can say she isn't getting attention.

How about, "Let the one without sin . . ."?