Here's how "Christians" are hypocrites!

[Apologetic_Warrior]

It's about the Christian philosophy/ethics. If we only judge each other (Christian, not acting like a Christian, probably not a Christian) we isolate ourselves from the public's opinion of whether we are behaving as Christ. We ARE to judge only and always those who claim to be Christian, so we can weed out the fake ones and keep the teachings of Christ plain and clear, right?

Hi drjean, I do love Presbyterians especially because I am one. So much could be said, I am unclear where to start or how best to convey what I have in mind. To judge is to make a judgement which is "the ability to make considered decisions or come to sensible conclusions." (google) Most everyone (Christian and Non) even from an early age makes judgements, even with the simplest of things, from the food we eat to the clothes we wear. However where we bump heads is where and when we have opposing judgements from at least two different sources. This may sound strange (and I am condensing this line of thought), but the only real way to sort opposing judgements is to look to THE judge, God himself and base judgement on the Word He has revealed to us through others in the Holy Scriptures. In this way, we are never THE judge, but our basis for making clear judgements is from on High. With this said, it has long been on my mind, that Christians should be more merciful to other Christians in their judgements than to non-Christians, because God Himself declares we are "not under law", whereas the non-Christian is, and God will judge them according to His Holy law.

It appears the world seems to think they know though, but lumps all of us believers into one bucket, as hypocrites. We are all not hypocrites! In fact, true Christians are not hypocrites. Why are we allowing our label of "Christian" to be highjacked by non-believers!?

Hypocrisy is a sin, it is a very common one, as common as lust, pride, swearing, and unrighteous anger. It is simply to say or teach against one thing and do that very thing. It can be so simple as teaching children not to swear, and turn around and do that very thing which they were told not to do. It can be so simple as teaching another to not lust or fulfill lust, and turn around and do that very thing. It can be so simple as teaching another to not be prideful, and turn around and do that very thing. However you have a point, as Christians our life should not be characterized, that is it should not be a defining or prevailing characteristic in our lives. Thank you for starting the subject, conviction is always welcome, I wish I were part of that 9% but I am in the 12%, as I tend to go over many of the same passages and chapters I am already familiar with, and tend to passover more difficult areas, some of the minor O.T. prophets especially come to mind.

 

[drjean]

What exactly do you mean by "go out and win them"?

The Scriptures tell me to "go out to the highways and byways" Luke 14 "and bring them in that my house may be full"...

and Jesus Himself in the "Great Commandment" says to Go into all the world, preaching the gospel... meaning in today's English, AS YOU GO about your business in this world, tell others about Jesus...

And I do agree that we don't do the Holy Spirit's work... He must convict them. In that respect I try very hard to at. the. very. least. I tell someone, "God loves you." and plant even that tiny seed so the Spirit may work on them, thinking and remembering God.

 

[Hearingheart]

The Scriptures tell me to "go out to the highways and byways" Luke 14 "and bring them in that my house may be full"...

and Jesus Himself in the "Great Commandment" says to Go into all the world, preaching the gospel... meaning in today's English, AS YOU GO about your business in this world, tell others about Jesus...

And I do agree that we don't do the Holy Spirit's work... He must convict them. In that respect I try very hard to at. the. very. least. I tell someone, "God loves you." and plant even that tiny seed so the Spirit may work on them, thinking and remembering God.

Thank you for clarifying your stance.

 

[drjean]

Have you all (who are reading of course) written out or memorized a short conversion testimony by now? You can do this! Then you are ready. God's Word says be always ready to share!

You might be a hypocrite if you deny being born again?

Why do only 29% of those who claim to be Christian say they are "born again" Christians? Is it the term they disagree with, or are they (YOU?) relying upon church membership or family ties instead?

Jesus said, YOU MUST BE BORN AGAIN!
(Which btw to someone who didn't know what Billy Graham preached, it was this!)

 

[Tutorman]

Christians are hypocrites.

Well, let me rephrase that: people who are not Christian judge people who say they are Christian, as hypocrites.

And they're right!

Let me be clearer though: there are millions of people who call themselves "Christians" who are not and so they do not --in fact are not able to-- behave like true Christians. For this reason I limit my own use of the term "Christian"!

A TRUE Christian is one who follows Christ. This thread will examine examples of how someone who claims to be a Christian probably isn't. (Rather more like the theme... you might NOT be a Christian if...)

HOW is someone who says he/she is a Christian really just a hypocrite?

One example is reading the Bible, or rather NOT reading the Bible. To a true believer, the Bible is God's Word! GOD Himself, speaking to us. Wow. It gives us instruction and is a main way that God speaks to His creation. One cannot know God without reading His Word.
Some have called it " Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth. "

Only 9% of those claiming to be Christians have read GOD's WORD through more than once!

You might not be a real Christian if you don't read God's Word!

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I don't read the Bible a lot but I get the Bible at Mass plus I am not evangelical. Guess in your book I ain't no Christian, fine judge away

 

[drjean]

I don't read the Bible a lot but I get the Bible at Mass plus I am not evangelical. Guess in your book I ain't no Christian, fine judge away

Then you are a good one to clarify for us in the thread. Why do you not consider yourself an evangelical? (Share if you wish). Is it the term, or the act? Is it from a belief that someone else is to do that?

It's not "my" book that I'm reading. I wouldn't say that you aren't a believer. We are trying to better define and clarify who are really "Christian" that say they are...for if you have missed in the rest of the thread (tis ok, I often just scan too) the very term/title of "Christian" means one who follows, does like, displays Jesus' examples. There are millions of believers, true believers, who are not Christian.

I know there are some who say they will 'stay home and pray' while others go out... but even that is being a part of winning souls isn't it?

 

[Tutorman]

Then you are a good one to clarify for us in the thread. Why do you not consider yourself an evangelical? (Share if you wish). Is it the term, or the act? Is it from a belief that someone else is to do that?

I am not evangelical because I am not a protestant, plain and simple. I am a Liturgical Christian.

It's not "my" book that I'm reading. I wouldn't say that you aren't a believer. We are trying to better define and clarify who are really "Christian" that say they are...for if you have missed in the rest of the thread (tis ok, I often just scan too) the very term/title of "Christian" means one who follows, does like, displays Jesus' examples. There are millions of believers, true believers, who are not Christian..

That is quite the haughty and prideful attitude to take. Who made you judge of alll those believers? A hypocrite is one who tries to tell others what they should do to be like themselves but Scripture speaks to that (Matthew 7:5, Luke 6:42)

I know there are some who say they will 'stay home and pray' while others go out... but even that is being a part of winning souls isn't it?

I like this quote "Preach the Gospel at all times. Use words if necessary." attributed but not said by St. Francis of Assisi

 

[brinny]

Reading God's Word, is really summed up in this verse, for me:

"Call unto me, and I will answer thee, and show thee great and mighty things, which thou knowest not." ~Jeremiah 33:3

It "feeds" us, and is akin to "manna from heaven", literally our "bread", as Jesus said Himself:

"But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God." ~Matthew 4:4

 

[klutedavid]

Christians are hypocrites.

Well, let me rephrase that: people who are not Christian judge people who say they are Christian, as hypocrites.

And they're right!

Let me be clearer though: there are millions of people who call themselves "Christians" who are not and so they do not --in fact are not able to-- behave like true Christians. For this reason I limit my own use of the term "Christian"!

A TRUE Christian is one who follows Christ. This thread will examine examples of how someone who claims to be a Christian probably isn't. (Rather more like the theme... you might NOT be a Christian if...)

HOW is someone who says he/she is a Christian really just a hypocrite?

One example is reading the Bible, or rather NOT reading the Bible. To a true believer, the Bible is God's Word! GOD Himself, speaking to us. Wow. It gives us instruction and is a main way that God speaks to His creation. One cannot know God without reading His Word.
Some have called it " Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth. "

Only 9% of those claiming to be Christians have read GOD's WORD through more than once!

You might not be a real Christian if you don't read God's Word!

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Humans are always hypocrites, whether they read the Bible or not.

You can read the Bible regularly but that does not mean, that your interpretation of the Bible is correct. The Pharisees read the Old Testament regularly, yet they strongly opposed Jesus. There are Christian cults that read the Bible and see Jesus as just a man, or they see Jesus as an angel.

It is not how much you read of the scripture, it is whether you understand what your reading (correct interpretation).

 

[Hearingheart]

I like this quote "Preach the Gospel at all times. Use words if necessary." attributed but not said by St. Francis of Assisi

I love this quote!

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

I love this quote!

Why ? It is used to deceive many people into silence of the truth, and to hide the truth from them.

 

[Hearingheart]

When I go out into the city or to town, I always ask God to put in my path someone who needs His love. He is always faithful in that regard. I'm careful to listen to the Spirit's leading as to what I'm to share and how I'm to share it because He knows best what every person needs. If I go out with a preplanned agenda or script I could actually be a hindrance instead of help. It's not my timing and my plan I'm going out with.

Even though there may be agreement about what Evangelicals believe, I don't always agree with the methods used.

 

[Monna]

You might not be a real Christian if you don't read God's Word!

Apart from not being able to read, it may be that the Bible (especially all of it) is not available in a language you speak or understand.

Thank God, my salvation doesn't depend on my having read the Bible.

Be ye not hearers of the word only but doers also.

As for hypocrisy generally, I'm among the biggest. But I've noticed one thing too. I have yet to meet a single person, Christian or not, who lives up to their own moral code and standard to the full extent. I've been looking for over 65 years. So hypocrisy seems to be a pretty basic human trait.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

I have yet to meet a single person, Christian or not, who lives up to their own moral code and standard to the full extent. I've been looking for over 65 years. So hypocrisy seems to be a pretty basic human trait.

YHVH says there are 144000 at least,
and
YHVH does not say that you or anyone else would meet true ekklesia, does He ?

YHVH does say today is "as in the days of Noah" (i.e. totally wicked) so
seeing
that hypocrisy is pretty basically everywhere is in line with TRUTH of YHVH'S WORD.

And yes, "basic human trait" is being evil, world wide, always.

 

[paul becke]

Deleted, as another mess-up - the post being a little further down.

 

[Hearingheart]

Why ? It is used to deceive many people into silence of the truth, and to hide the truth from them.

Oh, that's too bad, I didn't get that at all from the quote.

 

[paul becke]

I sure hope not!

It's about the Christian philosophy/ethics. If we only judge each other (Christian, not acting like a Christian, probably not a Christian) we isolate ourselves from the public's opinion of whether we are behaving as Christ. We ARE to judge only and always those who claim to be Christian, so we can weed out the fake ones and keep the teachings of Christ plain and clear, right?

It appears the world seems to think they know though, but lumps all of us believers into one bucket, as hypocrites. We are all not hypocrites! In fact, true Christians are not hypocrites. Why are we allowing our label of "Christian" to be highjacked by non-believers!?

If you ever come across a congregation in which there are no hypocrites, whatever you do, don't join it, because you will surely spoil it. Only one person was perfect truth, and he still is, of course. We are all hypocrites in some degree.

Part of the message is that you mustn't take it personally, drjean, but generically. You're not singled out from the rest of us, as less than perfect truth. We're all wrong 'uns up to a point.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Oh, that's too bad, I didn't get that at all from the quote.

'selah'

Think on this - it is such an irony.

It is used to deceive people, remember.

So people do not realize that they are being tricked, otherwise they would not be deceived, would they? That is how deception works. (everywhere on earth)

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

If you ever come across a congregation in which there are no hypocrites, whatever you do, don't join it, because you will surely spoil it. Only one person was perfect truth, and he still is, of course. We are all hypocrites in some degree.

That is definitely NOT what YHVH says in HIS WORD about EKKLESIA who HE SAYS walked (and walk) IN UNION WITH JESUS, ECHAD with JESUS as JESUS is ECHAD WITH THE FATHER.....
Often not read in the NT because people are not being directed to seek the truth or to seek YHVH'S KINGDOM in JESUS.

 

[Hearingheart]

'selah'

Think on this - it is such an irony.

It is used to deceive people, remember.

So people do not realize that they are being tricked, otherwise they would not be deceived, would they? That is how deception works. (everywhere on earth)

No deception in the quote "preach the gospel at all times, use words if necessary". We don't always need words to open doors. God's Spirit leads and through Him we are able to know when to use words and when not to.

Gal. 5:22
The fruit bowl awaits.