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Here's how "Christians" are hypocrites!

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Rut roh.

Men are more likely to skip Bible reading than women. Thirty-nine percent of men say they do not read the Bible on their own, compared to 31 percent of women. Folks in the Northeast (48 percent) are more likely to never pick up a Bible than those from other regions.
 
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You might not be a Christian if
You don't love others.
You don't love God's children.
You don't love the lost that Jesus died for.
You don't love .............
You don't love............
You don't love...........
You don't desire the sincere milk of the Word.

Jesus said you will know them by there love, not thirst for the Word.
I am a firm believer that people should study God's Word, not just read it.
I don't even know how many times I have read the Bible completely through. I have read it enough times to be able to recite all 66 books in order, I can tell you how many chapters each N.T. book has and many of the O.T. books as well. And I still have my struggles with sin.
 
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I've read the Bible so many times, that for quite a long time I go days or even weeks without opening it because it's on my heart. I know the Bible. I spend my time in prayer and helping others these days whereas before it would be spent reading the Bible. So, the fact that I don't read the Bible much anymore doesn't make me "not" Christian. I have read it, understood it, and now I put it into practice. One doesn't need to constantly read the physical words when they ring out in your mind, heart and spirit, and flow from your good deeds, and cry out to God through your prayers.

Bible only fallacy.
This reminds me of a certain Saint... let me see... here's the link.

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Serapion once gave his cloak to a poor man and as he walked on and met another who was shivering, he gave that one his tunic, and then sat down naked, holding the holy Gospel, and on being asked, "Who has taken your clothes, father?" he pointed to the Gospel and said, "This is the robber." Another time he sold the Gospel to give alms, and when a disciple said to him, "Father, where is your Gospel?" he replied, "Son, believe me, it was the Gospel which said to me, "Sell all you have and give to the poor", so I sold it and gave to the poor, that on the day of judgment we may have freer access to God.
 
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Since 70.6% (Religious Landscape Study) of AMERICANS call themselves CHRISTIAN... I'm not too worried about the polling being of "Americans". It does give a 3.2% plus/minus regarding accuracy deviation.

Let's continue... comments for Bible reading are still welcomed.
I'm a bit miffed with all the "evangelicals" touting this and that and thought I was alone (really) in judging them as NOT! Lifeway covered that too. What do YOU call an Evangelical? In the Religious Landscape Study 25.4% delineated themselves as evangelical.

Many who call themselves evangelical don’t actually hold evangelical beliefs


LifeWay used a set of four questions about the Bible, Jesus, salvation and evangelism. Those questions were developed in partnership with the National Association of Evangelicals. Those who strongly agree with all four are considered to be evangelicals by belief.

Fifteen percent of Americans are evangelicals by belief, according to LifeWay Research. By contrast, 24 percent of Americans self-identify as evangelicals.

Researchers found some significant differences between the two groups.
 
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I've read the Bible so many times, that for quite a long time I go days or even weeks without opening it because it's on my heart. I know the Bible. I spend my time in prayer and helping others these days whereas before it would be spent reading the Bible. So, the fact that I don't read the Bible much anymore doesn't make me "not" Christian. I have read it, understood it, and now I put it into practice. One doesn't need to constantly read the physical words when they ring out in your mind, heart and spirit, and flow from your good deeds, and cry out to God through your prayers.

Bible only fallacy.
Agreed.

One should be careful not to let one's path slip from
Christianity to Bibliolatry. Scripture points to God. When
something is pointed in a certain direction, we don't stare
at the thing pointing, we look to that at which it's
pointing. Once one arrives at the destination, it's no
longer necessary to keep looking at the map, let alone
worship it.

"You study the Scriptures diligently because you think that
in them you have eternal life. These are the very
Scriptures that testify about me, yet you refuse to come
to me to have life." (John 5:39-40)
 
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Why are we allowing our label of "Christian" to be highjacked by non-believers!?
Who is allowing this? The powers that be are overwhelmingly not followers of Jesus - the Ekklesia have no power to stop their hijacking everything (so-called in the world) "Christian" .
i.e. Ekklesia do not 'allow' this - we were born in a world that is very pernicious, controlled by the devil - so it is not as if Ekklesia have a say-so about what the world does.
 
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We ARE to judge only and always those who claim to be Christian, so we can weed out the fake ones and keep the teachings of Christ plain and clear, right?
Not according to forum rules, on this forum, on this site.
"NO WEEDING OUT ALLOWED"
 
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Christians are hypocrites.

Well, let me rephrase that: people who are not Christian judge people who say they are Christian, as hypocrites.

And they're right!

Let me be clearer though: there are millions of people who call themselves "Christians" who are not and so they do not --in fact are not able to-- behave like true Christians. For this reason I limit my own use of the term "Christian"!

A TRUE Christian is one who follows Christ. This thread will examine examples of how someone who claims to be a Christian probably isn't. (Rather more like the theme... you might NOT be a Christian if...)

HOW is someone who says he/she is a Christian really just a hypocrite?

One example is reading the Bible, or rather NOT reading the Bible. To a true believer, the Bible is God's Word! GOD Himself, speaking to us. Wow. It gives us instruction and is a main way that God speaks to His creation. One cannot know God without reading His Word.

Some have called it " Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth. "

Only 9% of those claiming to be Christians have read GOD's WORD through more than once!

You might not be a real Christian if you don't read God's Word!

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So throw stones at them, what you waiting for? Serve some justice.
 
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Many who call themselves evangelical don’t actually hold evangelical beliefs
Are any, most, some or a few of them true followers of Jesus ?

Are such beliefs completely in Harmony with YHVH'S WORD ? or are they leading to the one world government/religion that has been slaughtering the sheep every day for millenia ?
 
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Marshmellows !

Throw marshmellows !

"First of all , do no harm"
and "Be harmless as doves"

I would love to be thrown marshmallows, that would be awesome sauce. Maybe some pizza slices too.
 
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Not according to forum rules, on this forum, on this site.
"NO WEEDING OUT ALLOWED"

Quite right HERE. HERE the site has it's own rules because of many issues, including welcoming people of faiths and not overloading their volunteer staff who cannot possible monitor etc each post.

But IRL we are to judge. We don't have to vocalize that judgment though Jesus did all the time. But the Spirit within us discerns, and those who are playing being Christian need admonition (and at the very least prayer!)
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So throw stones at them, what you waiting for? Serve some justice.

Okay, now that you've shown us how non-believing Jews handled their judgments, and since we're moving on to the evangelical part of following Christ, can you share how Christians are to judge/assist one another?
 
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This reminds me of a certain Saint... let me see... here's the link.

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Serapion once gave his cloak to a poor man and as he walked on and met another who was shivering, he gave that one his tunic, and then sat down naked, holding the holy Gospel, and on being asked, "Who has taken your clothes, father?" he pointed to the Gospel and said, "This is the robber." Another time he sold the Gospel to give alms, and when a disciple said to him, "Father, where is your Gospel?" he replied, "Son, believe me, it was the Gospel which said to me, "Sell all you have and give to the poor", so I sold it and gave to the poor, that on the day of judgment we may have freer access to God.
And who said that Jesus would not come as a thief in the night?
 
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Who is allowing this? The powers that be are overwhelmingly not followers of Jesus - the Ekklesia have no power to stop their hijacking everything (so-called in the world) "Christian" .
i.e. Ekklesia do not 'allow' this - we were born in a world that is very pernicious, controlled by the devil - so it is not as if Ekklesia have a say-so about what the world does.

Good thinking!
But surely we can think of the ways that we are allowing this?
If we don't wish to counter them directly (and I hear ya on this!) then why aren't we standing up and being vocal ...displaying and speaking what IS true Christianity? hmmm btw this IS the perfect time of year to do this.

#TakeBackChristianity lol
 
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Good thinking!
But surely we can think of the ways that we are allowing this?
If we don't wish to counter them directly (and I hear ya on this!) then why aren't we standing up and being vocal ...displaying and speaking what IS true Christianity? hmmm btw this IS the perfect time of year to do this.

#TakeBackChristianity lol
I have been vocal/ posted/ etc.
The posts/ threads get deleted on forums. Sometimes I get banned.
In churches sometimes I get kicked out.
Most truth seekers get banned and kicked out, btw. The truth is not welcome anywhere practically. Even worse, where people hoped to find the truth, or a safe-haven, a safe place, they are hurt worse.
 
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Okay, now that you've shown us how non-believing Jews handled their judgments, and since we're moving on to the evangelical part of following Christ, can you share how Christians are to judge/assist one another?

I didn't know your post was for advice, it looks more like you made up your mind about most Christians graphs and all, didn't leave much room for discussion or dispute, so I had some fun, although I don't recall the phrasees( non believing jews I guess?) having a sense of humor in the bible...

But alright.

We are to rightfully judge for one. So come into a situation slow to anger and quick to listen. Access and discern the circumstance and measure it up with the Word.

Now that you gather your info, and measured it to the Word, now it time to deliver the message. How depends on individual circumstance, and it also depends on your heart in the matter. You may have the Word, but the wrong approach will taint your testimony. So examine your heart, are you telling them to bring them closer to God or for your own benefit. Would you tell it despite how you may look? How would you want someone to approach you with a Truth you may not like? Sometimes it looks like tough love, and sometimes it's a nice hug.

So you said your piece, how is your follow-up? Are they receiving it? Then good keep pouring into them. Were they not ready to hear it, that's fine leave them be and pray for them. What didn't they understand? Expound on it further. Can't you? ok, tell them you don't know it all but tell you testimony, how He is instrumental to you. Be patient with them with an understanding that God is patient with you, and teach with full knowledge of the end goal, to point them to God, and God will take it from there.You are looking to service THEM, they don't serve you. They are for GOD to work on, not you.

So when you pronouncing them who they are as a sentence with no intention to be either patience, to teach them, or bring them closer to Truth,you are not assisting or bringing light to anything but your lack of ability to point people to Christ.

Paul wrapped this up neatly in 2 Timothy 4:2 (ESV)

Preach the word; be ready in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, and exhort, with complete patience and teaching.
 
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Paul wrapped this us neatly in 2 Timothy 4:2 (ESV)

Preach the word; be ready in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, and exhort, with complete patience and teaching.
Great verse there; if ppl know that we will constantly be going back to Scripture, then maybe eventually by God's grace they also will start seriously looking into Scripture as well.
 
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