Here is why the saints cannot ignore the Commandments of God - not even the TEN

[Sophrosyne]

The Leviticus Feast Days are also commands of God, so they will have to be added to the list as well.

1 Corinthians 11:1
1 Imitate me, just as I also imitate Christ.

-Paul says we are to imitate him like he did Christ, so lets see what Paul did. Here are examples of 5 of the 7 feasts being kept.

Day of Pentecost
Acts 2:1
2 When the Day of Pentecost had fully come, they were all with one accord[a] in one place.
-How did the receive the holy spirit after Jesus died? They were observing the Day of Pentecost that Sunday.

Acts 20:16
16 For Paul had decided to sail past Ephesus, so that he would not have to spend time in Asia; for he was hurrying to be at Jerusalem, if possible, on the Day of Pentecost.
-Paul was hurrying to observe this feast and Jesus has been dead for years.

1 Corinthians 16:8
8 But I will tarry in Ephesus until Pentecost.
-Paul is keeping this feast in Ephesus.

Passover and Unleavened Bread
Acts 20:6(NKJV)
6 But we sailed away from Philippi after the Days of Unleavened Bread, and in five days joined them at Troas, where we stayed seven days.

-Why even mention Unleavened Bread, if it was abolished and no longer being observed. Acts 12:1-4
12 Now about that time Herod the king stretched out his hand to harass some from the church. 2 Then he killed James the brother of John with the sword. 3 And because he saw that it pleased the Jews, he proceeded further to seize Peter also. Now it was during the Days of Unleavened Bread. 4 So when he had arrested him, he put him in prison, and delivered him to four squads of soldiers to keep him, intending to bring him before the people after Passover.-Verse 3 shows that they were keeping the Passover and Unleavened bread

1 Corinthians 5:7-8
7 Therefore purge out the old leaven, that you may be a new lump, since you truly are unleavened. For indeed Christ, our Passover, was sacrificed for us.[a] 8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, nor with the leaven of malice and wickedness, but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.

-Paul here is telling the New Testament Christians to keep the Passover and Unleavened bread

1 Corinthians 11:23-25
23 For I received from the Lord that which I also delivered to you: that the Lord Jesus on the same night in which He was betrayed took bread; 24 and when He had given thanks, He broke it and said, “Take, eat;[a] this is My body which is broken[b] for you; do this in remembrance of Me.” 25 In the same manner He also took the cup after supper, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in My blood. This do, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of Me.”

-Paul is describing the New Testament Passover service, that Jesus established with His disciples on the night before His crucifixion. From the above passages we see that Paul commanded the Gentiles in the city of Corinth to keep Gods Holy Days.

Acts 12:1-4
12 Now about that time Herod the king stretched out his hand to harass some from the church. 2 Then he killed James the brother of John with the sword. 3 And because he saw that it pleased the Jews, he proceeded further to seize Peter also. Now it was during the Days of Unleavened Bread. 4 So when he had arrested him, he put him in prison, and delivered him to four squads of soldiers to keep him, intending to bring him before the people after Passover.

-Verse 3 shows that they were keeping the Passover and Unleavened bread


Feast of Tabernacles
Acts 18:20-21
20 When they asked him to stay a longer time with them, he did not consent, 21 but took leave of them, saying, “I must by all means keep this coming feast in Jerusalem; but I will return again to you, God willing.” And he sailed from Ephesus.

The Day of Atonement
Acts 27:9-10
9 Now when much time had been spent, and sailing was now dangerous because the Fast was already over, Paul advised them, 10 saying, “Men, I perceive that this voyage will end with disaster and much loss, not only of the cargo and ship, but also our lives.”

-Paul is referring to the Fast on the Day of Atonement. Luke wrote the book of Acts many years after Christ’s death and he referred to the Day of Atonement calling it the “Fast”



So why was Paul still observing all of these Feasts years after Christ death, if they were abolished and no longer needed?

Wouldnt Paul have received the revelations on the road to Damascus, when Jesus revealed himself to him that they were no longer needed?



So if we cant ignore the commandments of God, we cant ignore the Feast Days as well.

Are you circumcised? If not then you are disobeying God and IGNORING his word regarding celebrating Passover.

Exodus 12:48New American Standard Bible (NASB)
48 But if a stranger sojourns with you, and celebrates the Passover to the Lord, let all his males be circumcised, and then let him come near to celebrate it; and he shall be like a native of the land. But no uncircumcised person may eat of it.

 

[katerinah1947]

I answered those questions and am awaiting your response.

bugkiller

Hi,

It looks like you are doing well, and understand what The Bible is actually saying and meaning, so I have nothing to say so far on your work and words apart from that,..., You are saying and doing well.

Did you know, that not being answered by someone, on important issues between two people, or group and person, is the silent form of verbal abuse?

If that happens to you, remember that it is not you who are at fault then.

Look up verbal abuse. Some of it is very clever and subtle.

Groups use that, the silent form.

JW's use it. Mormons use it. Anti-Trinitarian Christians use that also.

By saying that, I am saying that each of those groups as a rule, have done that personally to me, and so far, I have not seen anyone, not doing that from those three groups so far.

Just an FYI, from my life.

LOVE,

 

[SAAN]

Are you circumcised? If not then you are disobeying God and IGNORING his word regarding celebrating Passover.

Exodus 12:48New American Standard Bible (NASB)
48 But if a stranger sojourns with you, and celebrates the Passover to the Lord, let all his males be circumcised, and then let him come near to celebrate it; and he shall be like a native of the land. But no uncircumcised person may eat of it.

My point was that if its going to be a constant push about the Sabbath and that ALL commands matter, the Feast Days are considered Sabbaths too, so you cant say someone is wrong for not keeping the Saturday Sabbath, then reject the 7 other Sabbaths.

 

[Sophrosyne]

My point was that if its going to be a constant push about the Sabbath and that ALL commands matter, the Feast Days are considered Sabbaths too, so you cant say someone is wrong for not keeping the Saturday Sabbath, then reject the 7 other Sabbaths.

Your point actually helps to affirm that the Sabbath is NOT for the uncircumcised to keep (Gentiles) if the feasts are tied to the Sabbath Day.

 

[SAAN]

Your point actually helps to affirm that the Sabbath is NOT for the uncircumcised to keep (Gentiles) if the feasts are tied to the Sabbath Day.

Acts 15:21 shows the Gentiles were keeping the Sabbath too.

 

[klutedavid]

Romans 6 "SHALL we SIN because we are not UNDER (the condemnation of) the LAW but under grace. God forbid!!"??

Hello Bob.

You stated the following verse in this post.

Romans 6 "SHALL we SIN because we are not UNDER (the condemnation of) the LAW but under grace.

Can you please explain, in ten lines or less, how you understand that verse?

 

[Sophrosyne]

Acts 15:21 shows the Gentiles were keeping the Sabbath too.

I'm sure there were even pagans keeping the Sabbath too, just because someone is doing something doesn't make it right for everyone to do is lest we all sacrifice our son, build arks, go to ninevah, march around the walls of the city 7 times. The Gentiles who were keeping the Sabbath were ignorant of the Law and I bet the circumcision group were also after them to become "Jewish" too.

 

[klutedavid]

Hello Bob.

A must give you credit where credit is due.

Your alternate interpretation of the scripture, is a near perfect alternate interpretation, you have altered the precise
meaning of all the quoted passages. You actually teach the exact opposite of what the apostle Paul taught.

I repeat you are teaching the antithesis of what the apostle Paul taught the Jews and Gentiles.

Here is the proof to support my claim, only those who really know the scripture, will be able to identify what you
are doing.

This is the passage you quoted in post #1.

Romans 13
8 Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.
9 For this,Thou shalt not commit adultery,Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal,Thou shalt not bear false witness,
Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou
shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.

You cleverly highlighted the listed commandments, and highlighted the end of verse 10, i.e., 'love is the fulfilling of the law'. Once you place importance on these highlighted sections of this passage. This passage then will read, obey the commandments and in this way, you will fulfill the law and that is love.

If you read the passage line by line and don't highlight anything, you get the exact opposite meaning from this passage.

8 Owe no man anything, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.

Loving others is what Paul is teaching, loving others hath fufilled the law.

9 For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery,Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,
Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment...

Paul says 'if there be any other commandment', Paul is not placing any importance on the commandments themselves.
Paul is not even providing a full list, 'if there be any other' he says, Paul knows fullwell what the other commandments are.
Paul does not even bother to mention them, 'if there be any other..' just about nails the commandments to the cross.

9... it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

Again the instruction is to love others, the commandments are summarized by 'Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself'.
If you love your neighbour, God is love, you have all the laws taken care of.

10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law

Love works not against a neighbour, thus Love is the fulfilling of the law.

Overall this passage is clearly saying, loving others takes care of the law, and whatever that law may be,
i.e., 'if there be any other commandment'.

 

[SAAN]

I'm sure there were even pagans keeping the Sabbath too, just because someone is doing something doesn't make it right for everyone to do is lest we all sacrifice our son, build arks, go to ninevah, march around the walls of the city 7 times. The Gentiles who were keeping the Sabbath were ignorant of the Law and I bet the circumcision group were also after them to become "Jewish" too.

Why would Pagans have kept the Sabbath if they could care less about God and would have nothing to accomplish by resting on that day. It would be like saying CHristians probably celebrate Ramadan and Mohammed's birthday too in our current times.
I seriously doubt the gentiles were keeping the day to become more jewish like the examples of the circumcision party vs keeping it because it was a command of God that had been in effect for 4000 yrs at the time.

 

[Sophrosyne]

Why would Pagans have kept the Sabbath if they could care less about God and would have nothing to accomplish by resting on that day. It would be like saying CHristians probably celebrate Ramadan and Mohammed's birthday too in our current times.
I seriously doubt the gentiles were keeping the day to become more jewish like the examples of the circumcision party vs keeping it because it was a command of God that had been in effect for 4000 yrs at the time.

For the same reason Atheist Jews keep the Sabbath, a Jew can be pagan secretly just as he can be an atheist and still keep the Sabbath because if he doesn't he will be punished.

 

[bugkiller]

Hi,

It looks like you are doing well, and understand what The Bible is actually saying and meaning, so I have nothing to say so far on your work and words apart from that,..., You are saying and doing well.

Did you know, that not being answered by someone, on important issues between two people, or group and person, is the silent form of verbal abuse?

If that happens to you, remember that it is not you who are at fault then.

Look up verbal abuse. Some of it is very clever and subtle.

Groups use that, the silent form.

JW's use it. Mormons use it. Anti-Trinitarian Christians use that also.

By saying that, I am saying that each of those groups as a rule, have done that personally to me, and so far, I have not seen anyone, not doing that from those three groups so far.

Just an FYI, from my life.

LOVE,

Many thanks. I've understood these things for sometime, especially since I started posting here.

bugkiller

 

[bugkiller]

Acts 15:21 shows the Gentiles were keeping the Sabbath too.

Nope!

bugkiller

 

[bugkiller]

And of course - God's Commandments = Jesus' Commandments

"what matters is KEEPiNG the Commandments of God" 1 Cor 7:19
"the saints KEEP the Commandments of God AND their faith in Jesus" Rev 14:12

So then what about Christ coming up with a different set of commandments - that are not those of God? Not those of God the Father and thereby negating the Commandments of God to replace them with other commandments - that come from Christ? Is that what we find in the New Testament?

Not according to Jesus' words in John's Gospel.

John 5:19 "19 Therefore Jesus answered and was saying to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, the Son can do nothing of Himself, unless it is something He sees the Father doing; for whatever the Father does, these things the Son also does in like manner."

John 8:28 "28 So Jesus said, “When you lift up the Son of Man, then you will know that I am He, and I do nothing on My own initiative, but I speak these things as the Father taught Me.

John 12:49 49 For I did not speak on My own initiative, but the Father Himself who sent Me has given Me a commandment as to what to say and what to speak.

John 14: "10 Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father is in Me? The words that I say to you I do not speak on My own initiative, but the Father abiding in Me does His works."

Which is why in John 14:15 we see this
15 “If you love Me, you will keep My commandments.

Instead of "keep My Commandments - not My Father's commandments - just mine"

And it is why John 15:10 does not say that either

John 15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.

And of course God the Father gave Jesus the ministry of "Savior" to the world such that Jesus prayed "Father if it be possible let this cup pass from me - nevertheless not my will - but Thy will be done"



Your objection to these texts ... "noted".

Its not the text.

bugkiller

 

[bugkiller]

The ROLE of the LAW for the SAVED:

"do we then make void the Law of God by our faith? God forbid! In fact we ESTABLISH the LAW" Rom 3:31


Jer 31:
31 “Behold, the days are coming, says the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah—
32 not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt, My covenant which they broke, though I was a husband to them, says the Lord.
33 But this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the Lord: I will put My law in their minds, and write it on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people.
34 No more shall every man teach his neighbor, and every man his brother, saying, ‘Know the Lord,’ for they all shall know Me, from the least of them to the greatest of them, says the Lord. For I will forgive their iniquity, and their sin I will remember no more.”


Heb 8
7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then no place would have been sought for a second.
8 Because finding fault with them, He says: “Behold, the days are coming, says the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah—
9 not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they did not continue in My covenant, and I disregarded them, says the Lord.
10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the Lord: I will put My laws in their mind and write them on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people.
11 None of them shall teach his neighbor, and none his brother, saying, ‘Know the Lord,’ for all shall know Me, from the least of them to the greatest of them.
12 For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their lawless deeds I will remember no more.”
13 In that He says, “A new covenant,” He has made the first obsolete


"do we then make void the Law of God by our faith? God forbid! In fact we ESTABLISH the LAW" Rom 3:31
What law? The Law that condemns all mankind as sinners -


1 John 3:4 - "SIN IS transgression of the LAW" - still to this very day -- even in the NT.

Romans 6 "SHALL we SIN because we are not UNDER (the condemnation of) the LAW but under grace. God forbid!!"??
1 Cor 7:19 "what matters is KEEPING the Commandments of God"
Rev 14:12 "the saints KEEP the Commandments of God AND their faith in Jesus"


1 John 5
2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.
3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and His Commandments are not grievous.

1John 2:
3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.
6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.


John says -
Rev 22:
14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.(KJV)




Your objection to those texts ... "noted"

And do you double-down on your rejection of the NEW Covenant as well???

Heb 8
7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then no place would have been sought for a second.
8 Because finding fault with them, He says: “Behold, the days are coming, says the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah—
9 not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they did not continue in My covenant, and I disregarded them, says the Lord.
10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the Lord: I will put My laws in their mind and write them on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people.
11 None of them shall teach his neighbor, and none his brother, saying, ‘Know the Lord,’ for all shall know Me, from the least of them to the greatest of them.
12 For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their lawless deeds I will remember no more.”
13 In that He says, “A new covenant,” He has made the first obsolete

You're a real case. You even quote what you refuse to accept. You have your pronouns improperly assigned in other texts you quote.

bugkiller

 

[bugkiller]

The Leviticus Feast Days are also commands of God, so they will have to be added to the list as well.

1 Corinthians 11:1
1 Imitate me, just as I also imitate Christ.

-Paul says we are to imitate him like he did Christ, so lets see what Paul did. Here are examples of 5 of the 7 feasts being kept.

Day of Pentecost
Acts 2:1
2 When the Day of Pentecost had fully come, they were all with one accord[a] in one place.
-How did the receive the holy spirit after Jesus died? They were observing the Day of Pentecost that Sunday.

Acts 20:16
16 For Paul had decided to sail past Ephesus, so that he would not have to spend time in Asia; for he was hurrying to be at Jerusalem, if possible, on the Day of Pentecost.
-Paul was hurrying to observe this feast and Jesus has been dead for years.

1 Corinthians 16:8
8 But I will tarry in Ephesus until Pentecost.
-Paul is keeping this feast in Ephesus.

Passover and Unleavened Bread
Acts 20:6(NKJV)
6 But we sailed away from Philippi after the Days of Unleavened Bread, and in five days joined them at Troas, where we stayed seven days.

-Why even mention Unleavened Bread, if it was abolished and no longer being observed. Acts 12:1-4
12 Now about that time Herod the king stretched out his hand to harass some from the church. 2 Then he killed James the brother of John with the sword. 3 And because he saw that it pleased the Jews, he proceeded further to seize Peter also. Now it was during the Days of Unleavened Bread. 4 So when he had arrested him, he put him in prison, and delivered him to four squads of soldiers to keep him, intending to bring him before the people after Passover.-Verse 3 shows that they were keeping the Passover and Unleavened bread

1 Corinthians 5:7-8
7 Therefore purge out the old leaven, that you may be a new lump, since you truly are unleavened. For indeed Christ, our Passover, was sacrificed for us.[a] 8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, nor with the leaven of malice and wickedness, but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.

-Paul here is telling the New Testament Christians to keep the Passover and Unleavened bread

1 Corinthians 11:23-25
23 For I received from the Lord that which I also delivered to you: that the Lord Jesus on the same night in which He was betrayed took bread; 24 and when He had given thanks, He broke it and said, “Take, eat;[a] this is My body which is broken[b] for you; do this in remembrance of Me.” 25 In the same manner He also took the cup after supper, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in My blood. This do, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of Me.”

-Paul is describing the New Testament Passover service, that Jesus established with His disciples on the night before His crucifixion. From the above passages we see that Paul commanded the Gentiles in the city of Corinth to keep Gods Holy Days.

Acts 12:1-4
12 Now about that time Herod the king stretched out his hand to harass some from the church. 2 Then he killed James the brother of John with the sword. 3 And because he saw that it pleased the Jews, he proceeded further to seize Peter also. Now it was during the Days of Unleavened Bread. 4 So when he had arrested him, he put him in prison, and delivered him to four squads of soldiers to keep him, intending to bring him before the people after Passover.

-Verse 3 shows that they were keeping the Passover and Unleavened bread


Feast of Tabernacles
Acts 18:20-21
20 When they asked him to stay a longer time with them, he did not consent, 21 but took leave of them, saying, “I must by all means keep this coming feast in Jerusalem; but I will return again to you, God willing.” And he sailed from Ephesus.

The Day of Atonement
Acts 27:9-10
9 Now when much time had been spent, and sailing was now dangerous because the Fast was already over, Paul advised them, 10 saying, “Men, I perceive that this voyage will end with disaster and much loss, not only of the cargo and ship, but also our lives.”

-Paul is referring to the Fast on the Day of Atonement. Luke wrote the book of Acts many years after Christ’s death and he referred to the Day of Atonement calling it the “Fast”



So why was Paul still observing all of these Feasts years after Christ death, if they were abolished and no longer needed?

Wouldnt Paul have received the revelations on the road to Damascus, when Jesus revealed himself to him that they were no longer needed?



So if we cant ignore the commandments of God, we cant ignore the Feast Days as well.

Was Paul a Jew? Have you read Romans 1 and 2 where Paul puts the Jew first.

bugkiller

 

[klutedavid]

Was Paul a Jew? Have you read Romans 1 and 2 where Paul pits the Jew first.

bugkiller

Hello BugKiller.

Yes BugKiller, you have obviously read and studied Romans, so few understand what
Paul was saying in this letter.

Paul in Roman's chapter one, is addressing the Gentiles in the Roman church. Then halfway
through Roman's chapter two, Paul changes tack and starts addressing the Jews in Rome.
Paul knows the Jews in Rome will destroy the church, and he is directly addressing them.

Have a look at these lines below from chapter two of Romans.

Romans 2
17 But if you call yourself a Jew and rely on the law and boast of your relation to God
18 and know his will and determine what is best because you are instructed in the law...
24 For, as it is written, “The name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles because of you.”

Now have a look at the start of chapter three, same target audience the Jews.

Romans 3
3 Then what advantage has the Jew? Or what is the value of circumcision?

When Paul talks about the law, Paul is speaking directly to the Jews in Rome.

Paul is not talking to the Gentiles, the Gentiles are without the law, the Gentiles are the uncircumcised.

The way you understand what is written in Paul's letter, is shaped by whom Paul is addressing.

If you understand Paul's letter to the Romans, you will see through every false interpretation
of the scripture. The letter to the Romans, is the core doctrinal letter, every interpretation
will quote from Romans repeatedly. It is the letter that must be understood above all the other
letters.

 

[SAAN]

The whole circumcision debate was about saying Circumcision is mandatory to be saved, when God told them to circumcise their hearts. What good was physical circumcisions if they had rotten hearts and could care less about God.

 

[BobRyan]

Hello Bob.

A must give you credit where credit is due.

Your alternate interpretation of the scripture, is a near perfect alternate interpretation,

Alternate interpretation to what?? Alternate to whatever you might make up?? OR alternate to what a great many others in your own pro-sunday group have said about the TEN Commandment??

This?
Dies Domini pt 13 -
"the Sabbath ...is therefore rooted in the depths of God's plan. This is why unlike many other laws - it is not within the context of strictly cultic (Jewish) stipulations but within the Decalogue the "ten words" which represent the very pillars of moral life inscribed on the human heart!! In setting this commandment within the context of the basic structure of ethics, Israel and then the church declare that they consider it not just a matter of community religious discipline but a defining and indelible expression of our relationship to God, announced and expounded by biblical revelations.

Dies Domini

From the Sabbath to Sunday

18. Because the Third (the Sabbath) Commandment depends upon the remembrance of God's saving works and because Christians saw the definitive time inaugurated by Christ as a new beginning, they made the first day after the Sabbath a festive day, for that was the day on which the Lord rose from the dead. The Paschal Mystery of Christ is the full revelation of the mystery of the world's origin, the climax of the history of salvation and the anticipation of the eschatological fulfilment of the world. What God accomplished in Creation and wrought for his People in the Exodus has found its fullest expression in Christ's Death and Resurrection, though its definitive fulfilment will not come until the Parousia, when Christ returns in glory. In him, the "spiritual" meaning of the Sabbath is fully realized, as Saint Gregory the Great declares: "For us, the true Sabbath is the person of our Redeemer, our Lord Jesus Christ".(14) This is why the joy with which God, on humanity's first Sabbath, contemplates all that was created from nothing, is now expressed in the joy with which Christ, on Easter Sunday, appeared to his disciples, bringing the gift of peace and the gift of the Spirit (cf. Jn 20:19-23). It was in the Paschal Mystery that humanity, and with it the whole creation, "groaning in birth-pangs until now" (Rom 8:22), came to know its new "exodus" into the freedom of God's children who can cry out with Christ, "Abba, Father!" (Rom 8:15; Gal 4:6). In the light of this mystery, the meaning of the Old Testament precept concerning the Lord's Day is recovered, perfected and fully revealed in the glory which shines on the face of the Risen Christ (cf. 2 Cor 4:6). We move from the "Sabbath" to the "first day after the Sabbath", from the seventh day to the first day: the dies Domini becomes the dies Christi!

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or were you thinking more along the lines of "Alternate to this"??



http://www.fbinstitute.com/moody/The_TenCommandments_Text.html

BY THE
DWIGHT L. MOODY
The Ten Commandments:
Exodus 20:2-17
.
The Fourth Commandment


Remember the Sabbath Day, to keep it holy. Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: for in six days the LORD made heaven and Earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath Day, and hallowed it.​

[FONT=&quot]THERE HAS BEEN an awful letting-down in this country regarding the Sabbath during the last twenty-five years, and many a man has been shorn of spiritual power, like Samson, because he is not straight on this question. Can you say that you observe the Sabbath properly? You may be a professed Christian: are you obeying this commandment? Or do you neglect the house of God on the Sabbath day, and spend your time drinking and carousing in places of vice and crime, showing contempt for God and His law? Are you ready to step into the scales? Where were you last Sabbath? How did you spend it?

I honestly believe that this commandment is just as binding today as it ever was. I have talked with men who have said that it has been abrogated, but they have never been able to point to any place in the Bible where God repealed it. When Christ was on earth, He did nothing to set it aside; He freed it from the traces under which the scribes and Pharisees had put it, and gave it its true place.
"The Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath." (Mark 2:27)
It is just as practicable and as necessary for men today as it ever was- in fact, more than ever, because we live in such an intense age.

The Sabbath was binding in Eden, and it has been in force ever since. The fourth commandment begins with the word remember, showing that the Sabbath already existed when God wrote this law on the tables of stone at Sinai. How can men claim that this one commandment has been done away with when they will admit that the other nine are still binding?

I believe that the Sabbath question today is a vital one for the whole country. It is the burning question of the present time. If you give up the Sabbath the church goes;

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[BobRyan]

No wait!! you were thinking that my interpretation was alternate to this interpretation --



Non-Catholic Scholars join with the Catholic claim that the TEN Commandments - all TEN - are binding on all mankind - still to this very day.
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So then what would be an example of such pro-Sunday scholarship that pertains to the 7 point summary list just posted?

Here we have section 19 of the Westminster Confession of Faith - and of course you already have a few posts of mine quoting the "Baptist Confession of Faith"

Westminster Confession of Faith Section 19

"Westminster Confession of Faith"

Chapter XIX
Of the Law of God​

I. God gave to Adam a law, as a covenant of works, by which He bound him and all his posterity, to personal, entire, exact, and perpetual obedience, promised life upon the fulfilling, and threatened death upon the breach of it, and endued him with power and ability to keep it.

II. This law, after his fall, continued to be a perfect rule of righteousness; and, as such, was delivered by God upon Mount Sinai, in ten commandments, and written in two tables: the first four commandments containing our duty towards God; and the other six, our duty to man.
III. Besides this law, commonly called moral, God was pleased to give to the people of Israel, as a church under age, ceremonial laws, containing several typical ordinances, partly of worship, prefiguring Christ, His graces, actions, sufferings, and benefits;l and partly, holding forth divers instructions of moral duties. All which ceremonial laws are now abrogated, under the New Testament

IV. To them also, as a body politic, He gave sundry judicial laws, which expired together with the State of that people; not obliging under any now, further than the general equity thereof may require.

V. The moral law does forever bind all, as well justified persons as others, to the obedience thereof; and that, not only in regard of the matter contained in it, but also in respect of the authority of God the Creator, who gave it. Neither does Christ, in the Gospel, any way dissolve, but much strengthen this obligation.
VI. Although true believers be not under the law, as a covenant of works, to be thereby justified, or condemned; yet is it of great use to them, as well as to others; in that, as a rule of life informing them of the will of God, and their duty, it directs and binds them to walk accordingly; discovering also the sinful pollutions of their nature, hearts and lives; so as, examining themselves thereby, they may come to further conviction of, humiliation for, and hatred against sin, together with a clearer sight of the need they have of Christ, and the perfection of His obedience It is likewise of use to the regenerate, to restrain their corruptions, in that it forbids sin: and the threatenings of it serve to show what even their sins deserve; and what afflictions, in this life, they may expect for them, although freed from the curse thereof threatened in the law The promises of it, in like manner, show them God's approbation of obedience,and what blessings they may expect upon the performance thereof: although not as due to them by the law as a covenant of works. So as, a man's doing good, and refraining from evil, because the law encourages to the one and deters from the other, is no evidence of his being under the law: and not under grace

VII. Neither are the forementioned uses of the law contrary to the grace of the Gospel, but do sweetly comply with it; the Spirit of Christ subduing and enabling the will of man to do that freely, and cheerfully, which the will of God, revealed in the law, requires to be done.

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Section 21 of the Westminster and Section 22 of the Baptist both address point 7 "the change" the edit of the Sabbath commandment from the 7th day starting from creation and all through the OT and NT Gospel until the cross where it is "changed" in their mind -- to point to week-day-1.

 

[BobRyan]

No wait - by "Alternate interpretation" you must mean "Alternate to this" interpretation...

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Notice how they both fit that 7 point summary already posted on page 1?
Baptist Confession of Faith Section 19
Section 19:

C.H. Spurgeon's edition of the "Baptist Confession of Faith"
-- CH Spurgeon

The Perpetuity of the Law of God

Very great mistakes have been made about the law. Not long ago there were those about us who affirmed that the law is utterly abrogated and abolished, and they openly taught that believers were not bound to make the moral law the rule of their lives. What would have been sin in other men they counted to be no sin in themselves. From such Antinomianism as that may God deliver us. We are not under the law as the method of salvation, but we delight to see the law in the hand of Christ, and desire to obey the Lord in all things. Others have been met with who have taught that Jesus mitigated and softened down the law, and they have in effect said that the perfect law of God was too hard for imperfect beings, and therefore God has given us a milder and easier rule. These tread dangerously upon the verge of terrible error, although we believe that they are little aware of it.​

Section 19 of the "Baptist Confession of Faith" ​

. The Law of God ​

• God gave to Adam a law of universal obedience which was written in his heart, and He gave him very specific instruction about not eating the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil. By this Adam and all his descendants were bound to personal, total, exact, and perpetual obedience, being promised life upon the fulfilling of the law, and threatened with death upon the breach of it. At the same time Adam was endued with power and ability to keep it.

• The same law that was first written in the heart of man continued to be a perfect rule of righteousness after the Fall, and was delivered by God upon Mount Sinai in the TEN COMMANDMENTS, and written in two tables, the first four containing our duty towards God, and the other six, our duty to man.

• Besides this law, commonly called the moral law, God was pleased do give the people of Israel ceremonial laws containing several typical ordinances. These ordinances were partly about their worship, and in them Christ was prefigured along with His attributes and qualities, His actions, His sufferings and His benefits. These ordinances also gave instructions about different moral duties. All of these ceremonial laws were appointed only until the time of reformation, when Jesus Christ the true Messiah and the only lawgiver, Who was furnished with power from the Father for this end, cancelled them and took them away. ​

• To the people of Israel He also gave sundry judicial laws which expired when they ceased to be a nation. These are not binding on anyone now by virtue of their being part of the laws of that nation, but their general equity continue to be applicable in modern times.

The moral law ever binds to obedience everyone, justified people as well as others, and not only out of regard for the matter contained in it, but also out of respect for the authority of God the Creator, Who gave the law. Nor does Christ in the Gospel dissolve this law in any way, but He considerably strengthens our obligation to obey it ​

Baptist Confession of Faith

Section 22.

Point 7
7. As it is the law of nature that in general a proportion of time, by God's appointment, should be set apart for the worship of God, so He has given in His Word a positive, moral and perpetual commandment, binding upon all men, in all ages to this effect. He has particularly appointed one day in seven for a Sabbath to be kept holy for Him. From the beginning of the world to the resurrection of Christ this was the last day of the week, and from the resurrection of Christ it was changed to the first day of the week and called the Lord's Day. This is to be continued until the end of the world as the Christian Sabbath, the observation of the last day of the week having been abolished.
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