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Paulos23

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The point is IT IS an emotional discussion.

Funny, because the reason my mother got me vaxinated was an emotional reason. It was fear, because she lived through a time when she could hve gotten these 'childhood disesses'. Like messiles, and polo. Polo was the scary one for her.

Once you look over the facts and the odds, there is only one emotional answer. Vaxinate.

The only reason people are choosing not too is because they don't have the personal examples in their face any more. Because vaxinces work, people are more afraid of a one in a million death then a 1 in 10 with pain on the side. They don't understand the odds, and since they don't have personal examples their emotions go the wrong way.

They should talk to their parents, and their grandparents, about what it was like before vaxinations. Then their emotions may understand.
 
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That may hold for treatment of personal conditions.

BUT.

If you have certain communicable diseases you can be quarantined, legally, and against your will if necessary.

SO,

Clearly there a different standard for public health concerns.

Sorry, but as we pursued that subject we were asked to refrain and return to the topic of the thread.
 
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Funny, because the reason my mother got me vaxinated was an emotional reason. It was fear, because she lived through a time when she could hve gotten these 'childhood disesses'. Like messiles, and polo. Polo was the scary one for her.

Once you look over the facts and the odds, there is only one emotional answer. Vaxinate.

The only reason people are choosing not too is because they don't have the personal examples in their face any more. Because vaxinces work, people are more afraid of a one in a million death then a 1 in 10 with pain on the side. They don't understand the odds, and since they don't have personal examples their emotions go the wrong way.

They should talk to their parents, and their grandparents, about what it was like before vaxinations. Then their emotions may understand.

The people, who think not immunising, is an emotional decision, have a privilege that many others do not.
 
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The people, who think not immunising, is an emotional decision, have a privilege that many others do not.

I think it is an emotonal decision because people make chioces on who to trust and for many people this is based on emotion and not reliablity and confirmation. It is sad when people put more trust in an actress then the CDC, and don't follow up on what she is saying.
 
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This popped up on another site I frequent.

Studies Implicate Early Injury to Cerebellum as Major Cause of Autism | Science News | Autism Speaks

Included is this graph:


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Note that receiving the MMR vaccine shows a DECREASE in the probability of developing autism. Just correlation, but a huge blow to the anti-vax propaganda.
 
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This helps to explain how herd immunity is important for adults as well as for infants through adolescents:

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Note: Of the schools in the graph all are private secondary schools in Los Angeles except Lincoln Middle School, which is public. Crossroads is a progressive school for the arts where students call teachers by their first names and have an unorthodox curriculum.

You can read the article here:

The Harvard-Westlake Chronicle - School may provide faculty measles vaccine
 
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You reject facts because of semantics?

There not facts, it is documentation of a disease decrease and there is nothing to side it with or credit vaccines.

Just because a disease drops with a vaccine does not mean the vaccine is responsible for that drop. It just shows you a convincing argument but not a reality.

Wake up, who is your healer? God or Man?
Vaccines are a con!
A synthetic poison will not reinforce immunity, it is a lie.
 
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This is a lie! Why do you think the bible calls it false Science?
Because it is false.
It is not herd immunity, we are now cows.

The human body will drop disease with out vaccine.
Disease is inhibited by healthy eating.

Actually understanding healthy eating is an issue.

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This is a lie! Why do you think the bible calls it false Science?
Because it is false.
It is not herd immunity, we are now cows.

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There not facts, it is documentation of a disease decrease and there is nothing to side it with or credit vaccines.

Just because a disease drops with a vaccine does not mean the vaccine is responsible for that drop. It just shows you a convincing argument but not a reality.

Wake up, who is your healer? God or Man?
Vaccines are a con!
A synthetic poison will not reinforce immunity, it is a lie.

Isn't it weird how nobody gets smallpox or polio anymore since they introduced the smallpox and polio vaccines?
 
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That is blasphemous. A mockery and arrogant.

If you think that, then it's curious you'd promptly redistribute the picture by replying to my post and not removing the link to it.

On second thought I realize that my response should have been like Sepia and Dust's to you.

Edit - No, I'm not "passing the buck," to you. I'm asking you a reasonable question. It's extremely easy to simply remove a link when you're quoting someone else's post, and if you genuinely felt like the picture was blasphemous, inappropriate, and idiotic (I think it was totally apropos for your post), you did not have to redistribute it. I took responsibility by removing the picture from my post, simply out of consideration for how others might perceive it. You're responsible for your own actions, both in this thread and in others where you've deliberately borne false and damaging witness, such as the ones about smoothies being cancer treatment.

Actually, I should have left the picture up because it said more than a thousand words could have, and since I received 9 positive reps for it the majority here clearly did not find it inappropriate in the slightest.

I'm not blaming myself for anything except for extending far more courtesy than was owed. *Tsk tsk tsks self*
 
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