Hebrews 3 and 4 do not delete God's Sabbath commandment

[prophecy_uk]

Again, how do you have faith in God, but not have faith in what He commands for us to do. Be doers of the Word not hearers. James 1:22

Laying your life down is faith, keeping it is the law of men.

 

[prophecy_uk]

I will finish for now, but if you think you have some strength to defend what you believe the whole world should follow, it is only an argument, and a weak argument at that.


Jesus Christ and the Apostles are the way to follow, beginning with loosing all of their lives, to have nothing, and why would we hear people in the time it is predicted the devil comes to deceive us all ?

Get real and goodbye.

 

[Danthemailman]

God’s Israel means God’s people not a nationality. Maybe you can quote the covenant God only made with the Gentiles? If you are not part of God’s Covenant you can’t claim the promises and the Covenant both the Old and the New is made with Israel. Gal 3:28

I never stated that God only made a covenant with the Gentiles and I understand that the new covenant was made with Israel. But wait, there is more.

Ephesians 3:1 - For this reason I, Paul, the prisoner of Christ Jesus for you Gentiles— 2 if indeed you have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which was given to me for you, 3 how that by revelation He made known to me the mystery (as I have briefly written already, 4 by which, when you read, you may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ), 5 which in other ages was not made known to the sons of men, as it has now been revealed by the Spirit to His holy apostles and prophets: 6 that the Gentiles should be fellow heirs, of the same body, and partakers of His promise in Christ through the gospel, 7 of which I became a minister according to the gift of the grace of God given to me by the effective working of His power.

Gentiles are fellow heirs and fellow members of the body, and fellow partakers of the promise (Ephesians 3:6). Such equality, Jew and Gentile united together in one body was previously unknown. The distinctive message of the church is that Jew and Gentile alike may believe the gospel and be united together into ONE BODY. (Ephesians 1:13; 1 Corinthians 12:13)

In Galatians 3:16 Paul writes, now the promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. He does not say, “And to seeds,” as referring to many, but rather to one, “And to your seed,” that is, Christ. In Galatians 3:27-29 Paul adds, For all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free man, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. And if you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s descendants, heirs according to promise.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

I never stated that God only made a covenant with the Gentiles and I understand that the new covenant was made with Israel. But wait, there is more.

Ephesians 3:1 - For this reason I, Paul, the prisoner of Christ Jesus for you Gentiles— 2 if indeed you have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which was given to me for you, 3 how that by revelation He made known to me the mystery (as I have briefly written already, 4 by which, when you read, you may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ), 5 which in other ages was not made known to the sons of men, as it has now been revealed by the Spirit to His holy apostles and prophets: 6 that the Gentiles should be fellow heirs, of the same body, and partakers of His promise in Christ through the gospel, 7 of which I became a minister according to the gift of the grace of God given to me by the effective working of His power.

Gentiles are fellow heirs and fellow members of the body, and fellow partakers of the promise (Ephesians 3:6). Such equality, Jew and Gentile united together in one body was previously unknown. The distinctive message of the church is that Jew and Gentile alike may believe the gospel and be united together into ONE BODY. (Ephesians 1:13; 1 Corinthians 12:13)

In Galatians 3:16 Paul writes, now the promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. He does not say, “And to seeds,” as referring to many, but rather to one, “And to your seed,” that is, Christ. In Galatians 3:27-29 Paul adds, For all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free man, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. And if you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s descendants, heirs according to promise.

Which is exactly what we have been saying. There is no more Jew or Gentile if we are one in Christ. God’s Israel is symbolic for God’s People. God writes His laws in our hearts and minds in the New Covenant . Jesus came to magnify God’s laws Isaiah 42:21 Jesus did come to destroy God’s commandments. Breaking one of the commandments and teaching others seems to have some consequences . Matthew 5:19. Jesus was our perfect example who kept all of the commandments of God John 15:10 and tells us to as well.

We are told to follow Jesus who was in the Temples and reading God’s Word as His custom on the Sabbath day- not the first day because the seventh day is God’s holy day according to God. Genesis 2:1-3, Exodus 20:10, Isaiah 58:13

Luke 4: 15 And He taught in their synagogues, being glorified by all.
16 So He came to Nazareth, where He had been brought up. And as His custom was, He went into the synagogue on the Sabbath day, and stood up to read. 17 And He was handed the book of the prophet Isaiah. And when He had opened the book, He found the place where it was written:

18 “The Spirit of the Lord is upon Me,
Because He has anointed Me
To preach the gospel to the poor;
He has sent Me to heal the brokenhearted,
To proclaim liberty to the captives
And recovery of sight to the blind,
To set at liberty those who are oppressed;
19 To proclaim the acceptable year of the Lord.”

20 Then He closed the book, and gave it back to the attendant and sat down. And the eyes of all who were in the synagogue were fixed on Him. 21 And He began to say to them, “Today this Scripture is fulfilled in your hearing.” 22 So all bore witness to Him, and marveled at the gracious words which proceeded out of His mouth. And they said, “Is this not Joseph’s son?”

 

[pasifika]

You need to stop mixing up the old covenant with the new covenant and the new covenant is not simply the 10 commandments from the old covenant of law "repackaged."

I teach to forget? I have not forgotten what the 4th commandment is for Israel under the old covenant of law and I am not an Israelite under the law of Moses. Exodus 34:28 is the OLD COVENANT OF LAW. Once again, who was God addressing when He said remember the sabbath day, to keep it Holy? Exodus 20:1 And God spoke all these words, saying: 2 I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.

Who did God bring out of the land of Egypt? The Israelites.

Deuteronomy 5:15 - And remember that you were a slave in the land of Egypt, and the Lord your God brought you out from there by a mighty hand and by an outstretched arm; therefore the Lord your God commanded you to keep the sabbath day.

Exodus 31:16 - The Israelites are to observe the sabbath, celebrating it for the generations to come as a lasting covenant. 17 It will be a sign between me and the Israelites forever, for in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, and on the seventh day he abstained from work and rested. There is no 'US' here.

Perpetual covenant with WHO? The Israelites. Has the old covenant been made obsolete by the new covenant? (Hebrews 8:13; 2 Corinthians 3:6-9)

The Holy Spirit does not help us obey the 10 commandments under the old covenant of law as a legalistic prescription for salvation. The life of discipleship flows out of the new command, to love one another as He loved us. (John 13:34) Love fulfills the law. (Romans 13:8-10) References for the moral aspect of 9 of the 10 commandments are reiterated under the new covenant, yet the command to keep the sabbath day is not binding on Christians under the new covenant. (Colossians 2:16-17)


Our 'sabbatismos' rest found in Hebrews 4:9 is in regards to our perpetual rest found in Christ, in contrast to the weekly sabbath under the law. This describes a period of rest for God’s people which is modeled after and is a fulfillment of the traditional sabbath. The Greek word "sabbatismos" is used no where else in the Bible.

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Hebrews 4:10 says the one who has entered His rest has himself also rested from his works, as God did from His. That person has entered in God’s rest through Jesus "rests from his own work" (in contrast of trying to keep the law) as God ceased or rested from His works in the seventh day of creation. God's ultimate, true rest did not come through Joshua or Moses, but through Jesus Christ. Joshua led Israel into the promised land, which was merely the earthly rest which was but a shadow of what was involved in the heavenly rest. The rest in Christ that God offers is spiritual and is superior to that which Joshua obtained.

Israel's earthly rest was filled with conflict and attacks from their enemies and the daily cycle of work. The "sabbatismos" rest enjoyed uninterruptedly by believers in their fellowship with the Father and the Son, in contrast with the weekly sabbath under the law, is found only in Christ and not law keeping. Although for centuries the Jews had found their physical rest in a day, the new covenant takes the focus off the shadows of the Old Testament signs and rituals and reveals their spiritual substance -- the fulfillment/reality—in the person of Jesus Christ. (Colossians 2:16-17)

In Matthew 24:15, we read - Therefore when you see the 'abomination of desolation,' spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place" (whoever reads, let him understand), 16 then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. Who is being addressed here? The Israelites. Not on the sabbath day because the gates of Jerusalem would be locked and they could not get out. Israel in general has rejected their Messiah and are still seeking to keep the law of Moses. Hence the mention of 'sabbath' years after He descends back to heaven. Exodus 30:8-11 and Isaiah 58:13 is old covenant. Mixing the old and new covenants together remains your achilles heel.

Under the new covenant, we read - Therefore no one is to act as your judge in regard to food or drink or in respect to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath day— 17 things which are a mere shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to Christ.

These non-SDA's from these sources I quote do not intentionally take things out of context and are former SDA's who know exactly what SDA's believe. It's painfully obvious what you really believe.

Good post..Amen!