Hating someone?

[mpok1519]

Is it wrong that I hate someone?

When I say hate, I mean hate, HATE....

There's this person I work with, who I see 5 days out of 7, and I really really despise this person to the point I have to actively avoid him, sometimes trying to pre-empt his whereabouts to avoid bumping into him.

And, what makes it worse... is that he's a nice guy, has never done me any harm and is well liked by all of my workmates.

have you identified the trigger of your anxieties? Is it something he does, his appearance, his smell, his voice? Is it the way he looks, or something he said in the past? It must be something on a personal level that has touched you negatively, even though that something may be trival and harmless.

Yes, theres something wrong with arbitrarily hating someone. But, if you can identify what you hate about him, then you can come to terms and understanding with it in order to alleviate the problem.

 

[Zaac]

lol no, you're wrong.

you can't actively hate something you don't believe in.

If I say "I hate unicorns", I don't really hate them; I'm just not very smart.

Unicorns aren't real so it wouldn't make much sense for you to hate them.

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but as a Christian, you must hate the devil, so, its understanable that you would hate another person, correct?

The devil is real and he is not a person. If I love Jesus I should hate the devil. But I cannot love Jesus and hate another person.

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thats a terrible line of logic to use. It is what is known as an "irrational thought."

You're applying logic. I'm applying Biblical truth. you can't love Jesus whom you can't see and hate your brother whom you can see. Your logis is irrational thought as it applies to God's word.

If anyone says, "I love God," yet hates his brother, he is a liar. For anyone who does not love his brother, whom he has seen, cannot love God, whom he has not seen. 1 John 4:20

 

[IzzyPop]

I can see your atheist symbol. I KNOW that you don't KNOW Christ. But He still gave His life for you. You just have to want to know Him.

Really? My gnome's brother gave his life for you, don't you want to know him?

 

[Zaac]

have you identified the trigger of your anxieties? Is it something he does, his appearance, his smell, his voice? Is it the way he looks, or something he said in the past? It must be something on a personal level that has touched you negatively, even though that something may be trival and harmless.

Yes, theres something wrong with arbitrarily hating someone. But, if you can identify what you hate about him, then you can come to terms and understanding with it in order to alleviate the problem.

Why is there something arbitrarily wrong with hating someone when you reject the One Who is love?

 

[Zaac]

Really? My gnome's brother gave his life for you, don't you want to know him?

When your gnome's brother starts indwelling people with the Holy Spirit, tell him to come see me and we will strike up a conversation.

 

[mpok1519]

Unicorns aren't real so it wouldn't make much sense for you to hate them.

and to an atheist, Jesus isn't real; you cant hate what you don't think of as real. That is the point I was making. I know you got the point, you just faile to exhibit your understanding.

The devil is real and he is not a person. If I love Jesus I should hate the devil. But I cannot love Jesus and hate another person.

but Jesus is God, not a person. This is why there are no universal truths/abolute maxims in Christianity, bc the doctrine has an INFINITE amout of interpretaion. You understand this, but fail to exhibit your understanding.

You're applying logic. I'm applying Biblical truth. you can't love Jesus whom you can't see and hate your brother whom you can see. Your logis is irrational thought as it applies to God's word.

If anyone says, "I love God," yet hates his brother, he is a liar. For anyone who does not love his brother, whom he has seen, cannot love God, whom he has not seen. 1 John 4:20

Thread derail, as the discussion has nothing to do with believing in God, or the such; it has to do with a human emotion and the enablement of that emotion and the negative egocentric and sociocentric impacts of that emotion enablement; we're not discussing anyone's (especially mine or your's) dogmas or itnerpretation of scripture and how it applies to dogmatic beliefs. Please stay on topic or warrant a report.

 

[mpok1519]

Why is there something arbitrarily wrong with hating someone when you reject the One Who is love?

bc hate IS wrong. Hate is fear. Hate is what turns people into animals and not people. Hate is what prevents progression and growth and the nurturing spirit of that growth.

 

[yasic]

Guys, lets stop derailing the thread. If you really want to discuss if being an atheist is hating jesus... well CF doesn't allow that, but don't do it in this thread regardless...

 

[Zaac]

and to an atheist, Jesus isn't real; you cant hate what you don't think of as real. That is the point I was making. I know you got the point, you just faile to exhibit your understanding.

You don't have to think Jesus is real. That's why it essentially amounts to hating Him. That's the understanding you fail to exhibit.

Sin is not dictated by the feelings of men.

but Jesus is God, not a person. This is why there are no universal truths/abolute maxims in Christianity, bc the doctrine has an INFINITE amout of interpretaion. You understand this, but fail to exhibit your understanding.

Jesus was fully man and is fully GOD. And there are nothing but moral absolutes and truths in Christianity. It's called God's inerrant word as given in the Holy Bible.

Ain't but one CORRECT interpretation and that's the interpretation of the One Who inspired men to write down His words. Lots of applications, but one correct interpretation.

Thread derail, as the discussion has nothing to do with believing in God, or the such; it has to do with a human emotion and the enablement of that emotion and the negative egocentric and sociocentric impacts of that emotion enablement; .

It is not a thread derail. We have an atheist in a Christian forum asking about hating someone. The Christian answer is you hate Jesus soo its understandable that you hate someone else.

we're not discussing anyone's (especially mine or your's) dogmas or itnerpretation of scripture and how it applies to dogmatic beliefs. Please stay on topic or warrant a report

You may not be. I certainly am. It's a CHRISTIAN forum and thus my responses center around CHRIST and not people's feelings. So please REPORT on if you feel the need to.

 

[Zaac]

bc hate IS wrong. Hate is fear. Hate is what turns people into animals and not people. Hate is what prevents progression and growth and the nurturing spirit of that growth.

What are you talking about? The OP says he hates someone. I responded witha Biblically aligned response.

If you want to make him feel good about hating someone while pretending he doesn't hate Christ too, you go ahead. I don't have to.

 

[Supernaut]

What are you talking about? The OP says he hates someone. I responded witha Biblically aligned response.

If you want to make him feel good about hating someone while pretending he doesn't hate Christ too, you go ahead. I don't have to.

An atheist can easily say they love the historical teachings of the man Jesus. With that, they aren;t hating Jesus at all. just loving the other perspective/side of Jesus.

Thank you Zaac for the Fundamentalist representation. Luckily, not everything is truly black and white. Luckily the Christian Community is more diverse than that.

Hating someone is against human nature and isn't really ever appropriate. From a biblical perspective, we are called to love and show compassion. We can hate evil, but not people.

 

[ArteestX]

Is it wrong that I hate someone?

When I say hate, I mean hate, HATE....

There's this person I work with, who I see 5 days out of 7, and I really really despise this person to the point I have to actively avoid him, sometimes trying to pre-empt his whereabouts to avoid bumping into him.

And, what makes it worse... is that he's a nice guy, has never done me any harm and is well liked by all of my workmates.

I'm confused. Why do you hate hate HATE him if he has never done you any wrong and is well liked?

 

[Zaac]

An atheist can easily say they love the historical teachings of the man Jesus. With that, they aren;t hating Jesus at all. just loving the other perspective/side of Jesus.

And that is a bunch of pure t mess. I guess yall tell these same people that this same God that they don't hate but refuse to recognize His existence is gonna allow them into heaven because they don't really hate Him, but only refuse to acknowledge Him. (smh)

Thank you Zaac for the Fundamentalist representation. Luckily, not everything is truly black and white. Luckily the Christian Community is more diverse than that.

Yes, lucky for us that the Christian Community is liberalizing people straight to hell. Again, just shaking my head in utter disbelief.
The Bible speaks of such people:

1But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them—bringing swift destruction on themselves. 2Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute. 3In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping. 2 Peter 2:1-3

Hating someone is against human nature and isn't really ever appropriate. From a biblical perspective, we are called to love and show compassion. We can hate evil, but not people.

Now talk to the atheist that yall seem to be trying to convince that he doesn't hate Jesus while expressing hate for another human. Folks in this forum are a straight trip.

 

[Supernaut]

And that is a bunch of pure t mess. I guess yall tell these same people that this same God that they don't hate but refuse to recognize His existence is gonna allow them into heaven because they don't really hate Him, but only refuse to acknowledge Him.

Mess?!? Geez...black and white theology is tough! Ok...if they recognize the human side of Jesus (historical Jesus) then the are not denying that the man existed.

Biblically speaking, of course that doesn't get them into heaven.

Yes, lucky for us that the Christian Community is liberalizing people straight to hell. Again, just shaking my head in utter disbelief.

You have such a way of intruducing fear into your words. Where is the freedom? Where is the liberation now that your bonds are cut? *shaking my head at the lack of true knowledge*

Now talk to the atheist that yall seem to be trying to convince that he doesn't hate Jesus while expressing hate for another human. Folks in this forum are a straight trip.

If you had read my comment, you would have noticed that I didn't support his hate for ANYONE.

Glad you find us a straight trip and not a gay trip as I couldn't bear to read the endless condemnations that that would incur.

 

[Zaac]

Mess?!? Geez...black and white theology is tough! Ok...if they recognize the human side of Jesus (historical Jesus) then the are not denying that the man existed.

Man give me a break with this foolishness. Muslims acknowledge the historical Jesus but don't acknowledge Him as God. Those who continue to do so will aslo be going to hell and they won't be going because they love Jesus.

Biblically speaking, of course that doesn't get them into heaven.

Sure doesn't cause that is still an expression of hate for Jesus Christ. It is Black and White.

You have such a way of intruducing fear into your words. Where is the freedom? Where is the liberation now that your bonds are cut? *shaking my head at the lack of true knowledge*

It's about time that the world redeveloped a healthy fear of the Lord. That's why so many ARE on the way to hell because we haven't pointed out the need to reverently fear GOD.

But that's hard to do when you can't even acknowledge their hatred for God in rejecting Him as God.

Again, you've got what God says and what aligns with His word and what yall think.

 

[Supernaut]

Man give me a break with this foolishness. Muslims acknowledge the historical Jesus but don't acknowledge Him as God. Those who continue to do so will aslo be going to hell and they won't be going because they love Jesus.

LOL...you are funny.

Sure doesn't cause that is still an expression of hate for Jesus Christ. It is Black and White.

There is a difference between turning your back and pure hatred. But, that doesn't fit your black and white theology.

It's about time that the world redeveloped a healthy fear of the Lord. That's why so many ARE on the way to hell because we haven't pointed out the need to reverently fear GOD.

The Pharisee has stepped up to the pulpit!

But that's hard to do when you can't even acknowledge their hatred for God in rejecting Him as God.

I can acknowledge the fact that they don't accept the gift of salvation offered by Christ.

The difference between us is that you are attacking them with condemnation using fear to scare them back into the church with your threats of hell.

I would prefer to use Christs' wonderous example of compassion to help them along in their journey.

Again, you've got what God says and what aligns with His word and what yall think.

So says Zaac Phelps.

 

[Mling]

wow Zaac....I'm not one to try to convert people away from Christianity, but if I was...I wouldn't even need to! You'd be doing it for me!

As for the *actual point of the topic.* I still think that the word 'hate' gets overused. You don't have to like everybody, and people can drive you nuts for no reason. If your feelings are as mild as they seem--ie: you don't wish him ill, you don't take actions against him, and the feelings themselves aren't interfering in your ability to live your life-- then I don't see any real harm in the fact that somebody drives you up the wall sometimes. It happens. It's part of interacting with other people.

 

[MoonLancer]

i think hate is relative. Its simply a word we use for those we dislike the most.

What would cause a little kid to hate is so minor compared to an adult in that regard, because they have not yet experienced the full spectrum yet.

 

[Jade Margery]

Is it wrong that I hate someone?

When I say hate, I mean hate, HATE....

There's this person I work with, who I see 5 days out of 7, and I really really despise this person to the point I have to actively avoid him, sometimes trying to pre-empt his whereabouts to avoid bumping into him.

And, what makes it worse... is that he's a nice guy, has never done me any harm and is well liked by all of my workmates.

On the off chance that Tower Crane will read this after three four pages of nonsense, here's my reply to dat:

Sometimes, something about a person will just sit wrong with you. And there's nothing wrong with you or them, it's not something you can control, like being afraid of bugs or disliking the sound of a certain instrument. I've had a similar experience myself--I tried to become friends with a young woman I knew because she did not have many friends, but came to realize that I couldn't stand her. Everything about her made me wish she wasn't there, and she wasn't a bad person at all! I pretty much solved the problem by finding her some new friends, getting her to join a local club which I don't have any involvement in, and seeing her rarely after that. I have no idea why I reacted to her the way I did. Perhaps there are subliminal clues that we notice about people without realizing it... I don't know.

You're doing the right thing, avoiding the guy. If it's really disturbing your work, try getting rid of him in a pro-active way--suggesting a promotion or encouraging him to move to a higher-paid position at a different work site. Try to only spend time near him in a group of people so that you can more easily avoid talking to him.

I doubt that you really hate hate him, that sort of implies that you would like to do him harm and obviously you don't. And although you may feel low for it, if you just automatically dislike someone there's not a lot you can do about it. I don't think it's much of a moral issue, unless you're planning to do something nasty to him.

 

[mpok1519]

You don't have to think Jesus is real. That's why it essentially amounts to hating Him. That's the understanding you fail to exhibit.

Really? You can honestly, wih your hate, full of rage anger and passion hate something you don't even believe in? If you believe in something, theres a level of passion, understanding and acceptance there; with hate, one usually understands what they hate, and generally has a passionate tendency to work against what one must believe to be true; atheists may no believe Jesus exists, but they understand that others believe in Jesus. They cannot hate Jesus, or the idea of Jesus; they can only hate what ignorance and hate what others bring with Jesus. If you can succeed to understand that.

Jesus was fully man and is fully GOD. And there are nothing but moral absolutes and truths in Christianity. It's called God's inerrant word as given in the Holy Bible.

So your understanding of Jesus is a spirit of some kind; and agent that works through a higher, less physically manifested form of itself and physically wrote a book, by Himself, I guess?

Ain't but one CORRECT interpretation and that's the interpretation of the One Who inspired men to write down His words. Lots of applications, but one correct interpretation.

Good luck finding that one; I hear everyone thinks they have it. =)

It is not a thread derail. We have an atheist in a Christian forum asking about hating someone. The Christian answer is you hate Jesus soo its understandable that you hate someone else.

Right. And I'm here to tell him that what you say is wrong. you can't hate what you don't believe in. And arguging about such a thing is childish.

You may not be. I certainly am. It's a CHRISTIAN forum and thus my responses center around CHRIST and not people's feelings. So please REPORT on if you feel the need to.

your feelings about "CHRIST" is what warrants your irrational big fonts. =)
mission work is supposed to make people feel comfortable. Christ, is supposed to feel comfortable. Christ feels good, not negatve and hateful.