Has anyone noticed?

[SimplyMe]

Actually, I've noticed Trump isn't talking about what he will actually do, overall, much less if it is tied to Project 2025 or not. I'm specifically not commenting on Trump and what might happen in his administration because it seems no one really knows, Trump hasn't told us.

I mean, I look at things he talked about in his campaign like getting rid of the ACA and replacing it with his own health care plan -- of course, we saw how that worked out in his first term, when he stated "Who knew that Health Care was so complicated?" when he couldn't get his own plan, that was supposedly ready to go on day 1, created. Additionally, with the narrow margins in Congress, it seems doubtful this is something he can do.

While he is going big on DOGE, again this seems something that won't be nearly as large as what Trump is promising. Ramaswamy and Musk have no real power in government, Congress controls the purse strings for government, so it is Congress that has to make the cuts to the various government departments -- not DOGE. And, again, with such tight margins in Congress, Republicans will be limited on how much they can really do.

I've yet to see a plan of how he is going to deport millions of illegal immigrants. I understand several here believe this will be big but I just don't see how he can do it without violating the civil rights of millions -- you can't just pull people off the streets and require them to prove their citizenship. The only things I can see is him removing people who are technically here legally, waiting for asylum decisions, and moving them to camps in Mexico -- but that isn't removing illegals.

There is the talk of tariffs but, again, it seems like Trump is using this as a negotiating tactic -- it is unclear exactly what he will actually do. He has talked about using it to create taxes, and lower income tax, but no actual plan has been announced and it is unclear how he could do it without major inflation on various consumer goods (to adjust for the cost of the tariffs for the goods that are imported).

He talked of ending the Ukraine-Russia war on day 1 but it is now clear that he had no actual plan and that the things he is trying are not yet working, particularly without completely betraying Ukraine. It is again unclear exactly what will happen.

He promised to lower grocery prices and stop inflation, though he has now admitted that isn't going to happen.

Seriously, there is little talk of what Trump is actually going to do, period, not just with Project 2025. So the fact it isn't being mentioned doesn't mean that much of Project 2025 isn't going to be attempted. It merely means that Trump is not telling us what his new administration is actually going to look like.

 

[Aaron112]

I just don't see how he can do it without violating the civil rights of millions -- you can't just pull people off the streets and require them to prove their citizenship.

It might be easy to do using <censored> methods, legally. money, money, money, money, money, supported secretly by hidden power.

 

[Valletta]

Actually, I've noticed Trump isn't talking about what he will actually do, overall, much less if it is tied to Project 2025 or not. I'm specifically not commenting on Trump and what might happen in his administration because it seems no one really knows, Trump hasn't told us.

I mean, I look at things he talked about in his campaign like getting rid of the ACA and replacing it with his own health care plan -- of course, we saw how that worked out in his first term, when he stated "Who knew that Health Care was so complicated?" when he couldn't get his own plan, that was supposedly ready to go on day 1, created. Additionally, with the narrow margins in Congress, it seems doubtful this is something he can do.

While he is going big on DOGE, again this seems something that won't be nearly as large as what Trump is promising. Ramaswamy and Musk have no real power in government, Congress controls the purse strings for government, so it is Congress that has to make the cuts to the various government departments -- not DOGE. And, again, with such tight margins in Congress, Republicans will be limited on how much they can really do.

I've yet to see a plan of how he is going to deport millions of illegal immigrants. I understand several here believe this will be big but I just don't see how he can do it without violating the civil rights of millions -- you can't just pull people off the streets and require them to prove their citizenship. The only things I can see is him removing people who are technically here legally, waiting for asylum decisions, and moving them to camps in Mexico -- but that isn't removing illegals.

There is the talk of tariffs but, again, it seems like Trump is using this as a negotiating tactic -- it is unclear exactly what he will actually do. He has talked about using it to create taxes, and lower income tax, but no actual plan has been announced and it is unclear how he could do it without major inflation on various consumer goods (to adjust for the cost of the tariffs for the goods that are imported).

He talked of ending the Ukraine-Russia war on day 1 but it is now clear that he had no actual plan and that the things he is trying are not yet working, particularly without completely betraying Ukraine. It is again unclear exactly what will happen.

He promised to lower grocery prices and stop inflation, though he has now admitted that isn't going to happen.

Seriously, there is little talk of what Trump is actually going to do, period, not just with Project 2025. So the fact it isn't being mentioned doesn't mean that much of Project 2025 isn't going to be attempted. It merely means that Trump is not telling us what his new administration is actually going to look like.

As to Project 2025, it's not Trump's plan but since a number of prominent conservatives were involved it is likely Trump has by now either read the plan or tasked someone to read it. If there are any new ideas worth consideration he most likely will have a team review those ideas. As to deportation plans know that a number of Democrat leaders have publicly announced they will resist. As you can see in the article below the ACLU is advising these leaders:

ACLU Advising Cities, States on How to Help Illegals Evade Deportation

The far-left ACLU is advising cities and states on how to help illegal aliens evade deportation under President-elect Donald Trump.

www.breitbart.com

The safety of all of the trafficked that Trump will attempt to rescue is of the highest priority. So too the most violent of criminals need to be captured. While you can expect announcements that those officials who break the law will be prosecuted, it would be foolish of Trump to announce exactly what tactics he will use and when in order to thwart the interference. To reveal the specifics could risk the welfare of trafficked children and other innocents. There has to be flexibility in the plan based upon the actions of the sanctuary Democratic leaders.
Finally, you are misrepresenting what Trump said about lowering grocery prices. Your claim that Trump 'admitted that isn't going to happen" is false. What Trump actually said is quoted in the following article:

“Look, they got them up. I’d like to bring them down. It’s hard to bring things down once they’re up. You know, it’s very hard. But I think that they will. I think that energy is going to bring them down. I think a better supply chain is going to bring them down,” Trump said, noting the supply chain is “still broken.”

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5038002-trump-food-prices-lowered/

 

[KCfromNC]

Further evidence that liberal and anti-Trump pieces are favored by Google's algorithms.

Or that reality doesn't line up with far-right talking points. And at least there's evidence for the latter.

 

[SimplyMe]

As to Project 2025, it's not Trump's plan but since a number of prominent conservatives were involved it is likely Trump has by now either read the plan or tasked someone to read it. If there are any new ideas worth consideration he most likely will have a team review those ideas. As to deportation plans know that a number of Democrat leaders have publicly announced they will resist. As you can see in the article below the ACLU is advising these leaders:

ACLU Advising Cities, States on How to Help Illegals Evade Deportation

The far-left ACLU is advising cities and states on how to help illegal aliens evade deportation under President-elect Donald Trump.

www.breitbart.com

The safety of all of the trafficked that Trump will attempt to rescue is of the highest priority. So too the most violent of criminals need to be captured. While you can expect announcements that those officials who break the law will be prosecuted, it would be foolish of Trump to announce exactly what tactics he will use and when in order to thwart the interference. To reveal the specifics could risk the welfare of trafficked children and other innocents. There has to be flexibility in the plan based upon the actions of the sanctuary Democratic leaders.
Finally, you are misrepresenting what Trump said about lowering grocery prices. Your claim that Trump 'admitted that isn't going to happen" is false. What Trump actually said is quoted in the following article:

“Look, they got them up. I’d like to bring them down. It’s hard to bring things down once they’re up. You know, it’s very hard. But I think that they will. I think that energy is going to bring them down. I think a better supply chain is going to bring them down,” Trump said, noting the supply chain is “still broken.”

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5038002-trump-food-prices-lowered/

Yes, he's going to fix the "supply chain" by putting tariffs on it, not quite sure how that is going to fix any supply chain in the near future. If he does the tariffs, that will just further break the supply chain and raise prices even more, as has been pointed out numerous times. In the meantime, he'll just fall back on, "It's very hard," when he can't bring prices back down (which basically any economist will tell you he can't do).

And as for deporting illegals, again, how does he do it. How do you pick out a person on the street as an illegal, do they have some type of stamp on their forehead? Maybe I'm wrong, maybe he has some type of weird plan. Or maybe he is seriously going to violate the civil rights of Americans and just grab people off the street. But I doubt it and will be interested how he makes this come to pass, without major lawsuits for civil rights violations of citizens.

 

[Aldebaran]

Or that reality doesn't line up with far-right talking points. And at least there's evidence for the latter.

Propaganda being spewed about Trump being the author of Project 2025 is hardly a "far-right talking point".

 

[Hans Blaster]

Propaganda being spewed about Trump being the author of Project 2025 is hardly a "far-right talking point".

No one claims Trump authored anything, not even the books with his name on it.

 

[BCP1928]

Propaganda being spewed about Trump being the author of Project 2025 is hardly a "far-right talking point".

Author? You'd have a hard time finding anybody on the Left who believed he's even read it.

 

[Hazelelponi]

The attacks on the plan were sufficiently effective that they turned some of its promoters into pariahs. It was kind of a remarkable thing to see tbh.

I have noticed, though, that nobody seems to be concerned about the Haitians in Springfield anymore.

Just waiting for our president to take office.

 

[iluvatar5150]

Just waiting for our president to take office.

You're waiting for Trump in order to resume complaining about the "locusts" taking jobs?

 

[Hazelelponi]

You're waiting for Trump in order to resume complaining about the "locusts" taking jobs?

Nope.

 

[Valletta]

Yes, he's going to fix the "supply chain" by putting tariffs on it, not quite sure how that is going to fix any supply chain in the near future. If he does the tariffs, that will just further break the supply chain and raise prices even more, as has been pointed out numerous times. In the meantime, he'll just fall back on, "It's very hard," when he can't bring prices back down (which basically any economist will tell you he can't do).

And as for deporting illegals, again, how does he do it. How do you pick out a person on the street as an illegal, do they have some type of stamp on their forehead? Maybe I'm wrong, maybe he has some type of weird plan. Or maybe he is seriously going to violate the civil rights of Americans and just grab people off the street. But I doubt it and will be interested how he makes this come to pass, without major lawsuits for civil rights violations of citizens.

Tariffs are a negotiating tool that a president can use to even the economic playing field.

The initial focus is going to be on the most violent criminals. Some are already in jail, and local law enforcement has the best idea where the others are.
There is no reason to imagine that the Republicans would go the way of the Democrats in grabbing U.S. citizens as FDR did with American citizens of Japanese ancestry in World War II.

 

[essentialsaltes]

There is no reason to imagine that the Republicans would go the way of the Democrats in grabbing U.S. citizens

Trump border czar Tom Homan suggests US-born children of illegal migrants could be held in halfway houses​

“As far as US children — children, that’s going to be a difficult situation, because we’re not going to detain your US citizen children, which means, you know, they’re going to be put in a halfway house,” Homan told NewsNation Thursday, without elaborating on how the plan would work.

“I’ve said many times that if we arrest the parent and they’ve been ordered removed and have a child with them, then they can be removed together, that’s going to be the parent’s decision, or the child can stay here,” he said.

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So the US citizens will be either rounded up and removed from the country, or rounded up and put in halfway houses.

 

[Gregory Thompson]

Well, it's not like presidents are incarcerated for just saying stuff to get elected, then doing whatever they want.

 

[Bradskii]

Tariffs are a negotiating tool that a president can use to even the economic playing field.

To your detriment. I hope you're prepared for the (ahem) 'short term pain' that someone not even in government was promising you.

The initial focus is going to be on the most violent criminals. Some are already in jail...

And there they will remain until they have served their time. And there are rules as to who can then be deported. See here: https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=granuleid:USC-prelim-title8-section1227&num=0&edition=prelim

...and local law enforcement has the best idea where the others are.

Local law enforcement actually knows where some criminals are and they're not arresting them? Can you explain this in some more detail?

Notwithstanding any of that, you have been promised that 11 million people will be deported. That isn't going to happen. It was a lie. Which is why you'll see so many people talking about an 'initial focus' on violent criminals. The goalposts haven't just been moved. They've been taken down, cut up and burnt.

 

[KCfromNC]

Propaganda being spewed about Trump being the author of Project 2025

I'm not aware of anyone claiming this.

Instead, the claims were that no one is talking about Project 2025 anymore. Recent news article were linked demonstrating this premise to be incorrect.

 

[KCfromNC]

Tariffs are a negotiating tool that a president can use to even the economic playing field.

They're also tools he actually enacted which lead to poor economic outcomes for his followers. For example : Trump Tariff Aid To Farmers Cost More Than U.S. Nuclear Forces

The Trump administration gave more taxpayer dollars to farmers harmed by the administration’s trade policies than the federal government spends each year building ships for the Navy or maintaining America’s nuclear arsenal​

​

Let's not pretend the guy knows what he's doing.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

Project 2025 is no longer being spoken of. It’s not mentioned by our new president, his transition team, or the Talking Heads anymore. The propaganda have lost again.

It's because the buckshot approach to "outrage hunting" is getting less effective by the day.

Seems like the talking heads on cable news give new "outrage subjects" a week or so to see if it works, and if not, they move onto something else.

I have noticed, though, that nobody seems to be concerned about the Haitians in Springfield anymore.

...and whatever happened to "Musk was actually an illegal immigrant" and "Pete Hegseth is a sexual predator"

It would seem as even the "Biden pardons son" thing isn't even really being discussed that much anymore. It was "hot news" for a grand total of 5 days, and then it moved on to something else.

 

[Valletta]

Trump border czar Tom Homan suggests US-born children of illegal migrants could be held in halfway houses​

“As far as US children — children, that’s going to be a difficult situation, because we’re not going to detain your US citizen children, which means, you know, they’re going to be put in a halfway house,” Homan told NewsNation Thursday, without elaborating on how the plan would work.

“I’ve said many times that if we arrest the parent and they’ve been ordered removed and have a child with them, then they can be removed together, that’s going to be the parent’s decision, or the child can stay here,” he said.

Makes sense. Locating the hundreds of thousands of children the Biden administration lost track of is going to be a lot harder. Biden ordered that DNA testing be stopped for minors accompanied by an adult. I suspect after the tests were stopped the majority of of children entered with an unrelated adult. Then there are all of the unaccompanied children. Finding out who the identity of the parents of the young ones could be very difficult.
But first we rescue them from the traffickers. Let me say that if any those Democrat mayors or governors interfere in the rescue process we should throw the book at them.

 

[essentialsaltes]

Makes sense.

First there's no reason to believe US citizens will be removed from their homes, and now it just makes sense.

Locating the hundreds of thousands of children the Biden administration lost track of is going to be a lot harder.

Especially since they're imaginary.