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God didn't create the universe for us to free ourselves of it. He just expects us to care for others before ourselves.So you are mocking the idea that he was getting rid of the things of this world?
Well this explains a lot. You're a KJV only kind of a guy who apparently sees the occult everywhere else.Most folks do not realize that most of all the New Testament portion of their Modern Translations are based upon Westcott and Hort's Greek text. These men were occultists.
God didn't create the universe for us to free ourselves of it. He just expects us to care for others before ourselves.
Well this explains a lot. You're a KJV only kind of a guy who apparently sees the occult everywhere else.
I also can't help but notice you're still intentionally ignoring the actual questions I ask. Can you show me in the Hebrew where it says "of it" in the I Chronicles passage? Can you let me know what Hebrew word is used that we get the English translation "of it" from? Surely it wasn't something the translators added, right?
Finally, can you please help me understand whether or not all fantasy and imagination is immoral or just some? I used the Veggie Tales as a specific example. Should our children stay away from the Veggie Tales?
That was Jesus' whole point. The world of man is built upon self interest while the Kingdom is built upon interest in others. Why pick on movies when the whole world runs backwards to the will of God?Love not the world and neither the things in the world is in 1 John 2:15-17 is a part of Scripture. It is reference in not to the creation, but it is in reference to how we are not to love the ideas, philosophies, material goods, and inventions of men. We are not to love the world system, or worldly politics, or worldly entertainment, or worldly government systems, etc.; Jesus said where your treasure is, there will your heart be also. This is why folks cannot see what this topic is talking about. The idols of entertainment is hard to take down out of one's life.
That was Jesus' whole point. The world of man is built upon self interest while the Kingdom is built upon interest in others. Why pick on movies when the whole world runs backwards to the will of God?
Well this explains a lot. You're a KJV only kind of a guy who apparently sees the occult everywhere else.
I also can't help but notice you're still intentionally ignoring the actual questions I ask. Can you show me in the Hebrew where it says "of it" in the I Chronicles passage? Can you let me know what Hebrew word is used that we get the English translation "of it" from? Surely it wasn't something the translators added, right?
Finally, can you please help me understand whether or not all fantasy and imagination is immoral or just some? I used the Veggie Tales as a specific example. Should our children stay away from the Veggie Tales?
I certainly agree that there are elements of witchcraft in the Narnia series. But don't you think there is a difference between portraying elements of witchcraft and promoting witchcraft? Can you provide a specific example from the Chronicles of Narnia where you think Lewis was actually promoting witchcraft?Narnia promote spells and witchcraft, and the occult. Spells, the occult, and witchcraft is real. These real things are mixed into the fictional stories of Harry Potter and Narnia.
Yet, I think you can say that as long as Veggie Tales isn't promoting witchcraft or the occult that it might be OK to watch? If so, then you might also be willing to acknowledge that it is possible to watch fantasy based shows/movies?I cannot say whether or not Veggie Tales promotes witchcraft or the occult. I do not really watch it
Children love imagination, and linking things that appear to be connected.
If you like mountain walking, 6 miles is a long way, but in a car at 60 mph it is 6 minutes. It is this scale that fanatasy books use, to help us explore, question and dream.
And without dreamers we get no technology or discoveries or advances. So many scientists died before there dreams became true, or discoveries they made were used in a big way. This is why I laugh at materialists and determinists, because they have no clue how the world around them came into being, through the creative imagination of fellow human beings, and because of Gods creative power and love.
I certainly agree that there are elements of witchcraft in the Narnia series. But don't you think there is a difference between portraying elements of witchcraft and promoting witchcraft? Can you provide a specific example from the Chronicles of Narnia where you think Lewis was actually promoting witchcraft?
For example, if someone made a movie about the encounter Saul had with the witch of endor, the movie would obviously contain elements and portrayals of witchcraft. Yet, if it was true to the Biblical text, it would not be promoting witchcraft, just portraying it.
Do you not think there is a difference between portraying something and promoting it?
Can you provide a specific example from Narnia where you think Lewis was actually promoting and encouraging his readers to engage in witchcraft?
Yet, I think you can say that as long as Veggie Tales isn't promoting witchcraft or the occult that it might be OK to watch? If so, then you might also be willing to acknowledge that it is possible to watch fantasy based shows/movies?
And once again, I couldn't help but notice you completely ignored my question about the I Chronicles passage. I'm not surprised though as it may take you some time to find a website that gives you the answer. But here's the question again:
Can you show me in the Hebrew where it says "of it" in the I Chronicles passage? Can you let me know what Hebrew word is used that we get the English translation "of it" from? Surely it wasn't something the translators added, right?
I certainly agree that there are elements of witchcraft in the Narnia series. But don't you think there is a difference between portraying elements of witchcraft and promoting witchcraft? Can you provide a specific example from the Chronicles of Narnia where you think Lewis was actually promoting witchcraft?
For example, if someone made a movie about the encounter Saul had with the witch of endor, the movie would obviously contain elements and portrayals of witchcraft. Yet, if it was true to the Biblical text, it would not be promoting witchcraft, just portraying it.
Do you not think there is a difference between portraying something and promoting it?
Can you provide a specific example from Narnia where you think Lewis was actually promoting and encouraging his readers to engage in witchcraft?
Yet, I think you can say that as long as Veggie Tales isn't promoting witchcraft or the occult that it might be OK to watch? If so, then you might also be willing to acknowledge that it is possible to watch fantasy based shows/movies?
And once again, I couldn't help but notice you completely ignored my question about the I Chronicles passage. I'm not surprised though as it may take you some time to find a website that gives you the answer. But here's the question again:
Can you show me in the Hebrew where it says "of it" in the I Chronicles passage? Can you let me know what Hebrew word is used that we get the English translation "of it" from? Surely it wasn't something the translators added, right?
I certainly agree that there are elements of witchcraft in the Narnia series. But don't you think there is a difference between portraying elements of witchcraft and promoting witchcraft?
Not like what is portrayed in the movies. Although the owl wintering in my trees gives me pause.
Interesting, I think then that Narnia is probably a good series.If there is no message on the correction on how witchcraft is a sin, then it is promoting witchcraft.
I think christians push the christian parallels in Narnia too much, and its sort of self-defeating. Lewis only hinted at some christian parallels, but now its become almost an industry writting books pointing them out - which defeats the purpose he had in mind, they are not strict allegories.
If you have something you want to share from yourself, then go ahead, but I'm not going to go following and reading all your website links. I could easily post 10 that disagree with you for every 1 you post, but I prefer to actually use my own self to engage in conversation.Check out this blogger article here:
End Times Blog: The Real C.S. Lewis Exposed - Narnia's Occult Agenda
(Note: I do not agree with the author's view on how he denies works as a part of the salvation process; Note: I believe good works is a part of the Sanctification in the salvation process after we are saved by God's grace. This is following what the Bible says alone about Sanctification and not a church doctrine, or creed, tradition, etc.; Verses on Grace and Sanctification for salvation, see: John 5:24, 1 Thessalonians 2:13, and James 2:24.).
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