Harmony

[Constantine the Sinner]

Anyone else put off by this in liturgical music? I know the Russians like to use it a lot, but it doesn't sound right to me at all. It is beautiful, but I mean it doesn't sound right to use in liturgy.

 

[ArmyMatt]

I like it depending on the hymn

 

[All4Christ]

Anyone else put off by this in liturgical music? I know the Russians like to use it a lot, but it doesn't sound right to me at all. It is beautiful, but I mean it doesn't sound right to use in liturgy.

I love it, personally. A bit of heaven on earth!

 

[Monk Brendan]

I love it, personally. A bit of heaven on earth!

Amen and Amen

 

[rusmeister]

I'm musically illiterate, though I have a good ear and voice. I'd need to hear the same piece with and without to grasp the difference.

 

[Anhelyna]

Chant in harmony doesn't have to be elaborate.

I love it and will normally harmonise after the first few notes. My own parish doesn't have a choir [ people would not devote the time needed for practice ] but most of us do sing in harmony - Ukrainians seem to be able to do that naturally

 

[Constantine the Sinner]

I'm musically illiterate, though I have a good ear and voice. I'd need to hear the same piece with and without to grasp the difference.

They couldn't really be the same piece, harmony requires a different arrangement by definition. They can have the same words, but they're very different musical accompaniment to those words.

Here is an example of a hymn without harmony:

Here is an example of a hymn with harmony:

 

[All4Christ]

Definitely prefer the second one, though I don't know that you'll find that type of arrangement in a typical parish it normally would be much more simple.

This would be more along the lines of a typical parish setting:

 

[Constantine the Sinner]

I love it, personally. A bit of heaven on earth!

It's beautiful, no doubt, but it feels like the musical equivalent to Western style iconography. It's too passionate for me, it captures too much of the composer's personal and subjective emotional interpretation of a hymn.

 

[All4Christ]

It's beautiful, no doubt, but it feels like the musical equivalent to Western style iconography. It's too passionate for me, it captures too much of the composer's personal and subjective emotional interpretation of a hymn.

What do you think of Kievan Chant?

 

[Constantine the Sinner]

Definitely prefer the second one, though I don't know that you'll find that type of arrangement in a typical parish it normally would be much more simple.

This would be more along the lines of a typical parish setting:

I like it, though I can't even detect the harmony in that.

 

[All4Christ]

I like it, though I can't even detect the harmony in that.

What I posted above is Kievan chant. Do you hear the harmony there?

 

[Constantine the Sinner]

What do you think of Kievan Chant?

I'm not used to it, but I do enjoy it and appreciate it. But I don't hear any harmony in it.

 

[All4Christ]

I'm not used to it, but I do enjoy it and appreciate it. But I don't hear any harmony in it.

What is your definition of harmony?

 

[Constantine the Sinner]

What I posted above is Kievan chant. Do you hear the harmony there?

No, tbh, it sounds like unison chant to me.

 

[Constantine the Sinner]

What is your definition of harmony?

Polyphony.

 

[All4Christ]

No, tbh, it sounds like unison chant to me.

Ah, well - its four part harmony

 

[Constantine the Sinner]

Ah, well - its four part harmony

Well I can't detect it unless there are more parts then.

 

[All4Christ]

Well I can't detect it unless there are more parts then.

Ok. I'd consider the song you posted to be more of a choral setting. Perhaps that is what you are thinking of when you say harmony?

This is the Lord's Prayer in a choral setting that we sang at our Nativity Open House...beautiful, though most parishes wouldn't have this setting as a typical arrangement during liturgy.

I'm guessing that would be more along the lines of what you consider harmony as well...correct?

This is more along the lines of what many OCA parishes would sing during a liturgy:

 

[rusmeister]

Definitely prefer the second one, though I don't know that you'll find that type of arrangement in a typical parish it normally would be much more simple.

This would be more along the lines of a typical parish setting:

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