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Lols, that list came out in 2018. Sadly, Donald's abysmal handling of the pandemic wiped out his "accomplishments" leaving the country with damaged supply lines, predicted recession (which his successor avoided), no infrastructure bill and debt up the wazoo.
I think most western nations handled the pandemic pretty much the same. Spending went up to prop up wages and the economy in all nations so its not exactly Trumps fault. But what I have noticed is that since then Biden has maintained pandemic size debt.

It seems when Biden came to office the economy was growing at a $1.5 trillion annualized rate and inflation was 1.4 percent, comfortably below the Federal Reserve’s target inflation rate. In around 18 months Biden delivered two consecutive quarters of negative economic growth which is more or less a recession. Inflation has reached a 40-year high.

The US has a debt crisis and its under Bidens watch. Rather than address this with fical restraint he is continuing massive deficits which is only feeding inflation and causing pressure of interest rates. This has caused increased costs borrowing and paybacks. They have more or less just printed more money thus devaluing the US dollar and this will undermine the economy and US credit ratings.
 
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I think most western nations handled the pandemic pretty much the same. Spending went up to prop up wages and the economy in all nations so its not exactly Trumps fault. But what I have noticed is that since then Biden has maintained pandemic size debt.
Debt can't be waived away. (At least not if you want to maintain the credibility of your currency.)
It seems when Biden came to office the economy was growing at a $1.5 trillion annualized rate and inflation was 1.4 percent, comfortably below the Federal Reserve’s target inflation rate. In around 18 months Biden delivered two consecutive quarters of negative economic growth which is more or less a recession. Inflation has reached a 40-year high.

What is this? Two years ago? Inflation has fallen for the last 2 years or so.
The US has a debt crisis and its under Bidens watch. Rather than address this with fical restraint he is continuing massive deficits which is only feeding inflation and causing pressure of interest rates. This has caused increased costs borrowing and paybacks. They have more or less just printed more money thus devaluing the US dollar and this will undermine the economy and US credit ratings.
What about the felon crisis?
 
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Even Judge Judy thinks the trial was bogus.


It cuts short of her saying he shouldn't have run for president.
He shouldn't have run for president, but that bridge was crossed 9 years ago.
 
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He shouldn't have run for president, but that bridge was crossed 9 years ago.
I only added that as a disclaimer that she doesn't worship him. But as a former NY judge she considers the trial to be nonsense.
 
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I only added that as a disclaimer that she doesn't worship him. But as a former NY judge she considers the trial to be nonsense.

Yeah, but this lady is as old as President Biden lol. Her deterioration is as noticeable as Biden's or Trump’s. She knows her opinion is meaningless compared to the ruling of the jury. Another opportunist shows us who she is. Notwithstanding the mere fact she retired from the bench in 1996. Corruption has evolved since her experience in the courtroom nearly 30 years ago.

The fact Donald Trump is the only person corrupt enough to be convicted of these felonies in no way diminishes the fact Mr Trump willfully broke the law 34 times in committing these felonies. A true criminal the likes of which the world has never seen! :)
 
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Even Judge Judy thinks the trial was bogus.


It cuts short of her saying he shouldn't have run for president.

Former Governor of New York Andrew Cuomo also agrees.

"That case, the Attorney General's case in New York, frankly should have never been brought. And if his name was not Donald Trump and if he wasn't running for president. I'm the former AG in New York. I'm telling you that case would have never been brought. And that's what is offensive to people. And it should be! Because if there's anything left, it's belief in the justice system."


 
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I may have been thinking of Judge Janine (I think that's the name.) the Fox contributor (host?)
Definitely not the same person. Based on the header of the clip I posted she wasn't just an NY judge, but a Manhattan judge.
 
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Definitely not the same person. Based on the header of the clip I posted she wasn't just an NY judge, but a Manhattan judge.
I meant I was thinking of "Judge Janine" being from NJ and confused her for "Judge Judy".
 
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Debt can't be waived away. (At least not if you want to maintain the credibility of your currency.)
Yes thats right and this simple truth works for anything even individuals. But it seems in an age of consumerism people want immediate satisfaction and any polititians who even mentions cutting costs and restraint is shot down.

Thats why perhaps the system is rigged and doesn't work at present. In the end we will be forced to go without when the s*** hits the fan and the system collapses.
What is this? Two years ago? Inflation has fallen for the last 2 years or so.
Ok well I'm not in the US. But in Australia and other nations inflation is still a problem. Its sort of stabalized from going up but it is unstable as parts of the economy have not adjusted to present and future wage inflation. So when we factor in the future wage increases and the massive debt added costs this will then reignite inflation pressures as a result.

The fact is we have done exactly the same thing we did last time there was a GFC and that is artifically prop up the economy with borrowed money and the constant push for growth. The chickens will come home to roost.

The US like other western nations are once again doing exactly the same thing again and that means the market has to adjust at some point to the reality that we are living on borrowed money and in reality and small changes in inflation is just moving the deck chairs on the ship as is goes down.
What about the felon crisis?
I think more people are more concerned about the economic state of society, the fact they cannot put a roof over their heads, afford energy to keep the power on and put proper food if any on the table. Thats the reality.

It seems to me that the majority support Trump regardless of his so called felony. So it doesn't seem to be a crisis to them. Rather its money, health, law and order, immigration and their rights to a decent income and security of a home.

Obviously its a crisis to the Left because thats what they do with identity politics. They make identity more important that reality, than food on the table.

Sure it would be great to have honest polititians that have our best interests at heart but that doesn't seem to be the case from both sides. So I guess its a case of who is the least worst when considering all these important issues together that is going to allow people to better standard of living.
 
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Yes thats right and this simple truth works for anything even individuals. But it seems in an age of consumerism people want immediate satisfaction and any polititians who even mentions cutting costs and restraint is shot down.

Thats why perhaps the system is rigged and doesn't work at present. In the end we will be forced to go without when the s*** hits the fan and the system collapses.

Ok well I'm not in the US. But in Australia and other nations inflation is still a problem. Its sort of stabalized from going up but it is unstable as parts of the economy have not adjusted to present and future wage inflation. So when we factor in the future wage increases and the massive debt added costs this will then reignite inflation pressures as a result.

The fact is we have done exactly the same thing we did last time there was a GFC and that is artifically prop up the economy with borrowed money and the constant push for growth. The chickens will come home to roost.

The US like other western nations are once again doing exactly the same thing again and that means the market has to adjust at some point to the reality that we are living on borrowed money and in reality and small changes in inflation is just moving the deck chairs on the ship as is goes down.

I think more people are more concerned about the economic state of society, the fact they cannot put a roof over their heads, afford energy to keep the power on and put proper food if any on the table. Thats the reality.

It seems to me that the majority support Trump regardless of his so called felony. So it doesn't seem to be a crisis to them. Rather its money, health, law and order, immigration and their rights to a decent income and security of a home.

Obviously its a crisis to the Left because thats what they do with identity politics. They make identity more important that reality, than food on the table.
Yes, that's the weak point of Democrats and their identity politics--they want to make sure that people of all identities are treated well. But the democratic response is reactionary. It is conservatives who created those identities in order to divide the country, and the Democrats played right into their hands.

It's rather like during the Vietnam war, when the government hired people dressed as hippie war protesters to throw dog poo on soldiers returning from Vietnam, because what they feared most was the returning veterans and the protesters uniting in common cause against the war.

Now it's the workforce. What conservative fear most is a united workforce. What they need is division. Christian against non-Christian is the big issue of the day, but black/latino/Asian/white divisions are all being exploited, ,men/women, old/young. Anything at all to keep the working class divided, and to keep the Democrats distracted from their tradition of being a labor party.
Sure it would be great to have honest polititians that have our best interests at heart but that doesn't seem to be the case from both sides. So I guess its a case of who is the least worst when considering all these important issues together that is going to allow people to better standard of living.
Certainly it is not the Republicans who are going to "allow" people a better standard of living and the Democrats have forgotten that is supposed to be their job to force them to do that.
 
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Ok well I'm not in the US. But in Australia and other nations inflation is still a problem. Its sort of stabalized from going up but it is unstable as parts of the economy have not adjusted to present and future wage inflation. So when we factor in the future wage increases and the massive debt added costs this will then reignite inflation pressures as a result.
Then maybe you should stick to things you know about and are on topic instead of writing about the current US economic state
The fact is we have done exactly the same thing we did last time there was a GFC and that is artifically prop up the economy with borrowed money and the constant push for growth. The chickens will come home to roost.

The US like other western nations are once again doing exactly the same thing again and that means the market has to adjust at some point to the reality that we are living on borrowed money and in reality and small changes in inflation is just moving the deck chairs on the ship as is goes down.

I think more people are more concerned about the economic state of society, the fact they cannot put a roof over their heads, afford energy to keep the power on and put proper food if any on the table. Thats the reality.
Not relevant.
It seems to me that the majority support Trump regardless of his so called felony. So it doesn't seem to be a crisis to them. Rather its money, health, law and order, immigration and their rights to a decent income and security of a home.
The people who call it a felony are the NY state legislature which wrote the law Trump violated.
Obviously its a crisis to the Left because thats what they do with identity politics. They make identity more important that reality, than food on the table.

Sure it would be great to have honest polititians that have our best interests at heart but that doesn't seem to be the case from both sides. So I guess its a case of who is the least worst when considering all these important issues together that is going to allow people to better standard of living.
More irrelevance.
 
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The US has a debt crisis and its under Bidens watch. Rather than address this with fical restraint he is continuing massive deficits which is only feeding inflation and causing pressure of interest rates.
Ronald Reagan proved that deficits don't matter.
-Dick Cheney 2002
 
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Yes, that's the weak point of Democrats and their identity politics--they want to make sure that people of all identities are treated well.
The problem with this is what identities. That is the very problem, making subjective Identity something real enough to be protected above objective reality itself. Thats what causes the problems. So yes their political ideology is incoherent to begin with. That is what most people are rejecting.
But the democratic response is reactionary. It is conservatives who created those identities in order to divide the country, and the Democrats played right into their hands.
Both parties contribute to identity politics. Its now become polarised reactionary as a result. But of all political ideologies and beliefs I think its those on the Right, more conservative that are closest to reality. Are more willing to at least discuss the issues with all cards on the table and not cancelling opposing views. Which is basically supporting democracy and free speech.
It's rather like during the Vietnam war, when the government hired people dressed as hippie war protesters to throw dog poo on soldiers returning from Vietnam, because what they feared most was the returning veterans and the protesters uniting in common cause against the war.
And here I thought the anti war movement was a genuine uprising of uni students to the horrors of war and the US unjustified involvement. So does that mean the current government is doing the same and hiring students to protest Isreal and support Hamas.
Now it's the workforce. What conservative fear most is a united workforce.
This seems strange. I think your misrepresenting things. How are the conservatives against a united workforce. What is a united workforce. It sounds like a political party itself like some Marxist socialist uprising lol.

But I think conservatives are for work, just not like the Left. They support enterprise, responsibility for yourself and family economically. So of course they want people to work, have businesses, grow business and jobs.
What they need is division.
How ironic. Society in western nations have become the most divisive in history under Leftist governments. Under their watch we have seen a rise in identity groups at war along race, sex, gender, belief, because that is exactly what they made the issue about by injecting identity into their policy as the cause of all evils.

So of course its going to hyper focus on identity and make it personal leading to people reacting rather than just seeing differences as part of life and being a human.
Christian against non-Christian is the big issue of the day, but black/latino/Asian/white divisions are all being exploited, ,men/women, old/young. Anything at all to keep the working class divided, and to keep the Democrats distracted from their tradition of being a labor party.
But can't you see that the very policies like Intersectionality and Equity which underpin Left policies are causing the problems because they are actually making identity in most cases race but now sex and gender the only measure of things of inequality and differences. So what we have seen is an increasing narrative that every problem in society is caused by race, sex, gender and belief.

It is well documented that DEI policies actually cause inequality and division. Thats not a belief thats a fact. We can trace the policies to actual real harm in society that is causing the conflicts and division.
Certainly it is not the Republicans who are going to "allow" people a better standard of living and the Democrats have forgotten that is supposed to be their job to force them to do that.
The Democrates gave that up a long time ago just like the Right abandoned their philosophy. Its now all about staying in power and not about being a representation of the people.

Money corrupts, lobbying can elevate minority interests to the top of the agenda, the system can be manipulated to keep power, to get your agenda through and politics has become about popularity rather than addressing the real issues.
 
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