GUILTY

[BPPLEE]

Then let's examine what he's going to do to fix an economy as described here: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2024/06/us-economy-excellent/678630/

Tell me what policies he's going to bring in to make things even better than they are now.

'Four years ago, the pandemic temporarily brought much of the world economy to a halt. Since then, America’s economic performance has left other countries in the dust and even broken some of its own records. The growth rate is high, the unemployment rate is at historic lows, household wealth is surging, and wages are rising faster than costs, especially for the working class. There are many ways to define a good economy. America is in tremendous shape according to just about any of them.

Right now America’s economic-growth rate is the envy of the world. From the end of 2019 to the end of 2023, U.S. GDP grew by 8.2 percent—nearly twice as fast as Canada’s, three times as fast as the European Union’s, and more than eight times as fast as the United Kingdom’s.

From the beginning of the pandemic through the fall of 2023, the last period for which we have good comparative data, real wages in both Europe and Japan fell. In Germany, workers lost 7 percent of their purchasing power; in Italy, 9 percent. By these metrics, the only workers in the entire developed world who are meaningfully better off than they were four years ago are American ones.'

The jobs were recovered from the pandemic, not created. Most of the new jobs have gone to foreign born workers and despite rosy economic descriptions from liberals Americans feel the pain

Americans Hold Grim View of Economy - Suffolk University

First-ever Sawyer Business School/USA TODAY poll shows that despite declining inflation rate, 70% of Americans believe economy is getting worse, not better

www.suffolk.edu

A stunning 84 percent of respondents say the cost of living is rising, citing the swelling price of everyday needs. Food prices are rising the most, according to nearly half (49%) of respondents, followed by housing costs (16%), utility bills (11%), and transportation, including gas (11%).
But keep telling us how good things are for us. We’re not buying it.

 

[Hans Blaster]

A stunning 84 percent of respondents say the cost of living is rising, citing the swelling price of everyday needs. Food prices are rising the most, according to nearly half (49%) of respondents, followed by housing costs (16%), utility bills (11%), and transportation, including gas (11%).

I want to know about the other 16%, because the increased cost of the goods (inflation) is an empirically measured quantity and doesn't need an opinion survey to determine it.

 

[BPPLEE]

I want to know about the other 16%, because the increased cost of the goods (inflation) is an empirically measured quantity and doesn't need an opinion survey to determine it.

If they’ve been lying to us about Biden’s mental acuity they are probably lying about this too. Despite what we’re being told we’re seeing the difference in our wallets and pocket books.

 

[Hans Blaster]

If they’ve been lying to us about Biden’s mental acuity they are probably lying about this too. Despite what we’re being told we’re seeing the difference in our wallets and pocket books.

What lying? This was purportedly the results of opinion survey. I want to know who the 16% are that think prices aren't going up. How clueless must those people be.

 

[BPPLEE]

What lying? This was purportedly the results of opinion survey. I want to know who the 16% are that think prices aren't going up. How clueless must those people be.

Oh those 16%. Probably the economists who keep telling us how good things are

 

[Brihaha]

Oh those 16%. Probably the economists who keep telling us how good things are

Maybe they are the Trump voters who still believe $8.4 trillion added to our debt in Donald's four years in office makes him a better choice than the guy who helped America clean up after the Trump fiasco with only half the accumulated debt. Elections have consequences. We are still dealing with consequences of the 2016 election. To pretend otherwise is disingenuous.

Now Donald is forcing his legal issues onto America along with his divisive political destruction. We don't need to deal with his drama any more. Turn him loose and set US free, please.

 

[BPPLEE]

Maybe they are the Trump voters who still believe $8.4 trillion added to our debt in Donald's four years in office makes him a better choice than the guy who helped America clean up after the Trump fiasco with only half the accumulated debt. Elections have consequences. We are still dealing with consequences of the 2016 election. To pretend otherwise is disingenuous.

Now Donald is forcing his legal issues onto America along with his divisive political destruction. We don't need to deal with his drama any more. Turn him loose and set US free, please.

Just think, if he had not been prosecuted his support would have fizzled and someone else would’ve been the nominee.

 

[Servus]

That is not exactly what you were talking about. What I showed was someone on the Right demonstrating some sort of perverse pride in Trump's felony convictions.

These are not official campaign items, but clearly these are MAGA products for MAGA people.

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They think the conviction is bogus election interference, and they're making it clear that it's not going to work.

 

[Vylo]

We have two poor choices for President. I’m voting for the one that I think will do more to improve the economy and not get us into a war, The other is just a figurehead.

Grats on voting for Biden.

 

[BPPLEE]

Grats on voting for Biden.

Congrats on drinking the Kool Aid

 

[Vylo]

Congrats on drinking the Kool Aid

I mean, biden improved the economy and didn't get us into a war.

Trump didn't improve the economy, but avoided a direct war while priming Putin to invade Ukraine.

 

[BPPLEE]

I mean, biden improved the economy and didn't get us into a war.

Trump didn't improve the economy, but avoided a direct war while priming Putin to invade Ukraine.

Biden

 

[Vylo]

Biden
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Cute, but doesn't prove a thing, unlike Trump, who is ugly as sin, and doesn't prove a thing.

 

[Hans Blaster]

They think the conviction is bogus election interference, and they're making it clear that it's not going to work.

Fools and their money are soon parted.

 

[Brihaha]

Just think, if he had not been prosecuted his support would have fizzled and someone else would’ve been the nominee.

You really think that is true? That people would have abandoned support if Donald WASN'T prosecuted? That's very counterintuitive, if not pure fantasy. So am I to believe you wouldn't be voting for Trump and defending him here had he not been prosecuted?

 

[BPPLEE]

You really think that is true? That people would have abandoned support if Donald WASN'T prosecuted? That's very counterintuitive, if not pure fantasy. So am I to believe you wouldn't be voting for Trump and defending him here had he not been prosecuted?

He would have been beaten in the primaries. The appearance that he is being unfairly prosecuted is what made people rally around him. It’s like a protest vote.
I didn’t support him in the primary. I would rather have had someone else. But I’ll take him over Biden. Biden is cognitively impaired

 

[Vylo]

He would have been beaten in the primaries. The appearance that he is being unfairly prosecuted is what made people rally around him. It’s like a protest vote.
I didn’t support him in the primary. I would rather have had someone else. But I’ll take him over Biden. Biden is cognitively impaired

If cognitive impairment is your concern, you should probably not support the man actively stroking out in public. https://www.c-span.org/video/?c5108418/user-clip-reduplehggeh-ahh

 

[BPPLEE]

If cognitive impairment is your concern, you should probably not support the man actively stroking out in public. https://www.c-span.org/video/?c5108418/user-clip-reduplehggeh-ahh

Just watch the debate

Doctors express concern about Biden’s apparent cognitive issues during debate: 'Troubling indicators'

On the heels of President Biden's debate performance on Thursday night, Dr. Brett Osborn and Dr. Marc Siegel weighed in on the president's apparent cognitive decline as seen by millions.

www.foxnews.com

 

[Vylo]

Just watch the debate

Doctors express concern about Biden’s apparent cognitive issues during debate: 'Troubling indicators'

On the heels of President Biden's debate performance on Thursday night, Dr. Brett Osborn and Dr. Marc Siegel weighed in on the president's apparent cognitive decline as seen by millions.

www.foxnews.com

I did. Trump was more confident but said nothing of value, lied almost every breath and was barely coherent.

 

[Bradskii]

Most of the new jobs have gone to foreign born workers and despite rosy economic descriptions from liberals Americans feel the pain.

Well, show me the figures about foreign born workers. Let's see what affect that has on the economy. Where'd you get that info? And I'm not interested in what some people feel when they are polled. Or what some dude says on Youtube about his Wal-Mart bill. Talking about the economy means talking about facts and figures. From reputable sources.

I'll wait here while you find some.