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Gog and Magog in Revelation and Ezekiel

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We are currently living in that period of falling away (apostasy) spoken of in 2 Thess 2:3. Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

Note that the falling away will lead to the appearance of the Antichrist. So, there's no basis to claim the falling away will occur at the end of the millennium when satan is released from prison. IOW, we are now living in the age of unrestrained wickedness and it will increase proportionately until the bad guy shows up. Look around the world and you'll see a lot of evil going on that makes little or no sense.

Trivalee, the "man of sin" be revealed is not one man, so-called "THE" antichrist as premillennialists believe. Rather it is Satan being revealed and working through men in the church since he has been loosened from the bottomless pit, where the Elect can start "seeing" the apostasy a nd desolation because of them. This is how Satan is revealed. This ONLY takes place AFTER the restraining hand of the Holy Spirit that kept the Wicked at bay (in the bottomless pit) so that God could build the church... AND THEN, at the appointed time, the wicked will be loosened and be revealed through men. The ones who will do the will of Satan with all of his power in the church to deceive many.

2Th 2:7-12
(7) For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
(8) And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
(9) Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
(10) And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
(11) And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
(12) That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

Because of the unfaithfulness of the church where professed Christians do not want to hear the truth or repent. "For this cause", God allows Satan to come into His congregation with the army of false prophets and christs (aka, army of Gog and Magog) to deceive those who have not yet seal of God (Revelation 9) so they will believe a lie, thinking they are saved or serving the Lord. This is a strong delusion that no one will get saved at this time. THerefore, God's Elect will start seeing the signs that is taking place that the abomination of desolation stands in the holy place, the church, where it suppose not, so they will be moved by God to come out of churches so they won't be deceived along with the rest if they stay. Remember Lot's wife.
 
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Hi Bob,

1. In Revelation 12:6 is 1260 days, then in Revelation 12:7-9, the war in the second heaven and Satan and his angels cast down to earth.

No no no. God didn't talk about some literal war in heaven. The heaven signifies kingdom of God on Earth which was OLD TESTAMENT CONGREATION of Israel when Satan and his angels (messengers) like Scribes, Pharisees, and deceived Jews. v.s. Jesus CHrist and his angels (messenger) like Peter, James, and John etc. It happened at the Cross where Christ has defeated Satan and cast him OUT of old testament congregation as it fell and in three days, <Christ rebuilt it which is now the New Testament congregation that Satan has been restrained from attacking her until Christ finish building church. This has nothing to do with physical war in heaven, nor 70AD, or your Jewish fables.



2. In Revelation 11 are those same 1260 days, then the two witnesses killed, brought back to life ascend to heaven, then the 7th trumpet sounds, Revelation 11:14-15.

No. Two Witnesses (as well as a Woman - the congregation of Israel) testified for 1,260 symbolical days which points to the whole new covenant church from Pentecost to Last Elect being secured. And no, two witnesses did not get physically killed, physically resurrected and physically went to physical heaven. It is spiritual discerned.




consolidated - 1260 days, then the 7th trumpet sounds, then Michael and his angels cast Satan and his angels down to earth. Satan having great wrath, woe to the inhabitants to the earth and sea. Revelation 12:12.

Nope! You forgot about 1,290 day and 1,335 day. Since the 7th trumpet is the Last trump, it only will occur on the 1,335th day which is coming soon. And no, Satan and his angels was already cast out of heaven and go to the bottomless pit as the old testament congregation that is fallen and in three days, Christ rebuilt it with the church along with his resurrection. The 1,260 days start when Christ anointed Christians with the Holy Spirit so they go out to preach the Gospel to the world (wilderness).
 
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If we are posting in a section of this board involving Eschatology, and that some of us perceive that Ezekiel 38-39 is Eschatological, and that one of our passions is Eschatology, why shouldn't we want to rack our brains trying to figure out how Ezekiel 38-39 fits in the scheme of things? The fact these things are written in the OT, and that God was the speaker in these verses, pertaining to Ezekiel 38-39 in this case, that obviously means God finds these things to be important, to be relevant, otherwise, why did God even bother bringing any of these things up to begin with?

We can't rely on one testament alone and be satisfied that that is all there is needed to know. Look how that's working out for unbelieving Jews. In their mind, they have the OT, therefore, everything needed to be known, they already have it. Therefore, they don't need the NT as well. When I would think that any Christian would agree that both testaments are needed in order to see the bigger picture.

And what about in Matthew 24, for instance? Where Jesus says to consider what Daniel said? Did Daniel say that in the NT or in the OT? If the NT only sheds light on the OT, and not vice-versa as well, wonder why Jesus didn't fully realize that, the fact He indicated one needs to consider what Daniel recorded in the OT in order to shed further light on what He is meaning in Matthew 24?

Let's face it. Daniel had way more things to say about some of these things than Jesus did at the time. Which should mean that the OT is shedding further light on what Jesus said in the Discourse pertaining to this. What Jesus said was compressed. What Daniel said was detailed, thus filling in some of the missing details. In order to fill in the missing details, one can't just go to Daniel ch 9 alone and think that explains everything. One also needs to consider Daniel 7, 8, 10, 11, and 12. And then we still need to factor in 2 Thessalonians 2, the book of Revelation, to name a few, and how some of that relates to what is recorded in the book of Daniel, and what Jesus said in the Discourse involving this subject.

Anyway, right or wrong, that's my mindset pertaining to these things.
Once I've told you many times, that should settle it in your mind. Forget what Jesus said about Daniel and forget it if anything in 2 Thessalonians 2 or the Revelation draws from anything in Daniel or Ezekiel.
 
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So you were wrong to think that Satan was more powerful because you believe there are so much evil going on in the world.
The moment someone twists and misquotes something I said it puts me off reading anything else that person wrote. I made it very clear that Satan is not more powerful than God and whether or not he was "bound" so that he was rendered incapable of deceiving the nations anymore until the thousand years are finished, makes no difference to the spread of the gospel.

So unless you promise never again to misquote me or twist what I said, don't expect any response from me.

PS: I've noticed you doing the same thing to DavidPT more than once.

If you think that misrepresenting someone's position or what the person said is OK, forget it.
 
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What happens to those who stay faithful and those who fall away at that point?
Revelation 20:9 says what happens to those who fall away at that point. I never wrote it, so I would ask that you read it and then tell me what you think happens to them. Tip: It's the same whether the millennium is now and ends with the return of Christ, or whether the Revelation only commences following the return of Christ. What is written regarding what happens to them, is written.
Then, when are the unfaithful raised?
There is only one resurrection and it takes place at the return of Christ.

Revelation 20:9 does not say that those who followed Satan after he was looosed and went forward deceiving the nations again, were cast into the lake of fire (which is the second death). It says fire came down from God out of heaven and devoured them.

And nothing that is written in Revelation 20:12-13, says anything about a bodily resurrection from the dead when it says that death and hades will deliver their dead up, and the dead will stand to be judged. If this involves a resurrection from the dead (which always implies a bodily resurrection), then it is not the dead facing judgment (the spiritually dead, yes - but no bodily resurrection is mentioned where it is written death and hades deliver up their dead to stand judgment).

But Jesus said that when He returns the just and the unjust will be raised:

"Do not marvel at this, for the hour is coming in which all who are in the graves shall hear His voice, and shall come forth, those who have done good to the resurrection of life, and those who have practiced evil to the resurrection of condemnation." John 5:28-29.

Neither does Revelation 20:14 combine death and hades itself with the souls mentioned in Revelation 20:15.

The second death is the second death. Nothing that is written in Revelation 19 through 20 restricts the second death to only receive souls once for all time, and once only. The first death came upon all men through Adam. The resurrection from the dead and the experience of living in the new heavens and new earth comes to those who come to Christ and remain in Christ, the Vine - otherwise the branch in the Vine that does not remain in the Vine is cast out and is withered:

"If anyone does not abide in Me, he is cast out as a branch and is withered. And they gather and cast them into the fire, and they are burned." John 15:6
Why does this whole world drama have to be played again?
You'd have to ask God that question, not me. But while you're about it, ask God why the whole drama was allowed to be played out the first time in the garden of Eden, in the first place. Why did God permit Satan to test man in the garden?

I don't know the answer to your question, but I do note the fact that all those who have been martyred for the sake of their testimony and faithfulness to God, including the prophets of old, have been tested, and have overcome. Unlike Adam who was tested, and fell. There are billions of others among mankind - among the sons and daughters of Adam - who had died in Christ and who had never been tested the way Adam was, and the way those who had been martyred were.

If God tested Adam and if those among the sons of Adam who were martyred for their faithfulness have been tested, would God want all the sons of Adam to be tested to know whether or not they will remain faithful?

Adam knew exactly what God had said - the Command and Word came to him directly from God.. "you will surely die." Adam knew perfectly well that the words "You shall not surely die" implied that God was a liar - but Adam wanted to make himself like the Most High, because Satan had said, "..you will be like God, knowing both good and evil".

So what was Adam's motive, do you think? He completely forgot that he had been made in the image and likeness of God. You can't be more like God than that. But forgetting this, or not fully believing it (or whatever), he wanted to make himself like the Most High.

If God tested Adam and if those among the sons of Adam who were martyred for their faithfulness have been tested, would God want all the sons of Adam to be tested to know whether or not they will remain faithful?

So billions who had never been tested will be resurrected from the dead at the last day, when Christ returns.

But when you find out why God allowed it all to play out in the garden in the first place, and why He did not bind or destroy Satan after Seth was born, or after the flood, in the new world in which we have a picture of the new heavens and new earth, or why He did not destroy Satan when Jesus rose from the dead after He, as the second man (1 Corinthians 15:47) and the last Adam (1 Corinthians 15:45) bore the punishment for all Adam's and the sons of Adam's sins, died in our place, and rose again,

then please tell me why God has allowed all this to play out. Because I don't know.
 
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The moment someone twists and misquotes something I said it puts me off reading anything else that person wrote. I made it very clear that Satan is not more powerful than God and whether or not he was "bound" so that he was rendered incapable of deceiving the nations anymore until the thousand years are finished, makes no difference to the spread of the gospel.

Do you know what deceiving the nations actually refer to exactly? And how did Satan deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog? Not Russia, mind you.

And do you deny that Christ has already bound Satan at the Cross in order to spoil his house?

Mar 3:23-27
(23) And he called them unto him, and said unto them in parables, How can Satan cast out Satan?
(24) And if a kingdom be divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand.
(25) And if a house be divided against itself, that house cannot stand.
(26) And if Satan rise up against himself, and be divided, he cannot stand, but hath an end.
(27) No man can enter into a strong man's house, and spoil his goods, except he will first bind the strong man; and then he will spoil his house.
 
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Do you know what deceiving the nations actually refer to exactly? And how did Satan deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog? Not Russia, mind you.

And do you deny that Christ has already bound Satan at the Cross in order to spoil his house?

Mar 3:23-27
(23) And he called them unto him, and said unto them in parables, How can Satan cast out Satan?
(24) And if a kingdom be divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand.
(25) And if a house be divided against itself, that house cannot stand.
(26) And if Satan rise up against himself, and be divided, he cannot stand, but hath an end.
(27) No man can enter into a strong man's house, and spoil his goods, except he will first bind the strong man; and then he will spoil his house.
As rust is to iron, so idleness is to the soul.

Metaphor
: Idleness is the rust of the soul.

If Jesus is able to cast out demons, it means He is more powerful than Satan, and besides this, the stupidity of thinking Satan would be at war with himself by casting out his own demons is ridiculous.

Metaphor: How can Satan cast out Satan?
(24) And if a kingdom be divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand.
(25) And if a house be divided against itself, that house cannot stand.
(26) And if Satan rise up against himself, and be divided, he cannot stand, but hath an end.
(27) No man can enter into a strong man's house, and spoil his goods, except he will first bind the strong man; and then he will spoil his house.

No man can enter into a strong man's house, and spoil his goods, except he will first bind the strong man; and then he will spoil his house.


Satan was not bound in terms of his deception of the nations (Revelation 20:1-3) when Jesus cast demons out of people. According to all amillenniliasts, Satan was only bound at Calvary, and this was before Calvary.

Admit it. Jesus was using the above as a metaphor. It was before Calvary. @TribulationSigns So to use that as 'evidence' that Satan was bound at Calvary is as ridiculous as the ridiculousness of the people Jesus was answering, albeit the ridiculousness of your implication that those verses mean that Satan is bound does not have a blasphemous motive, as the people's who Jesus was speaking to did when they accused him of casting out demons by ba'alzebub.
 
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Two Witnesses (as well as a Woman - the congregation of Israel) testified for 1,260 symbolical days which points to the whole new covenant church from Pentecost to Last Elect being secured.
You forgot about 1,290 day and 1,335 day. Since the 7th trumpet is the Last trump, it only will occur on the 1,335th day which is coming soon. And no, Satan and his angels was already cast out of heaven and go to the bottomless pit as the old testament congregation that is fallen and in three days, Christ rebuilt it with the church along with his resurrection. The 1,260 days start when Christ anointed Christians with the Holy Spirit so they go out to preach the Gospel to the world (wilderness).
Would you explain again your view of the 1260, 1290, and 1335 days?
 
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@saint2

Here is how trumpet 7 fits graphically.

A little explanation of the timeframes....

The 1260 days is exactly half of the 7 years (2520 days). The 42 months of the beast's rule (Revelation 13:5) is in terms of days 1256.5 days, because it implies unimpeded by the two witnesses who will have left this earth.

When the 7th trumpet sounds and Satan is cast down to earth to be a terror (Ezekiel 28:19), he will have a time/times/half time left which is a little less than the 42 months. We don't have enough information to know in terms of days.

So, that is why in Revelation the timeframes are three different expressions - to basically represent half of the seven years each, of which only the 1260 days is exactly half of the seven years.

1260 days - exactly half of seven years
42 months - a little less than half
time/time/half time - a little more less than half
42 months rule of the beast.jpg
 
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Hi Bob,

It is a matter of putting together information from Revelation 12, 11, 8, 9.

First key is the timeframes expressed...

1. In Revelation 12:6 is 1260 days, then in Revelation 12:7-9, the war in the second heaven and Satan and his angels cast down to earth.

2. In Revelation 11 are those same 1260 days, then the two witnesses killed, brought back to life ascend to heaven, then the 7th trumpet sounds, Revelation 11:14-15.

consolidated - 1260 days, then the 7th trumpet sounds, then Michael and his angels cast Satan and his angels down to earth. Satan having great wrath, woe to the inhabitants to the earth and sea. Revelation 12:12.

the woes - In Revelation 8:13, the last three trumpets are called woe trumpets.

Revelation 9:2-12 the 5th trumpet, the first woe is identified
Revelation 9:13-21 the 6th trumpet, the second woe is identified.

Revelation 12:12 the 7th trumpet, the third woe is identified. Satan cast down, falling to earth, the star in Revelation 9:1

consolidated - Satan cast down to earth, having great wrath. He is given the key to opening the bottomless pit, to free his cohorts. The flesh tormenting locust led by Abaddon, their king. 5 months of pain they cause.

Then near the end of the 7 years, the 200,000,000 man army that destroys a third of mankind still alive at the time.
I'll have to rethink my position on this one, Doug, thanks for your thoughtful input.
 
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Does this mean that you are applying what is recorded in Ezekiel 38-39 to that of past events that have already been fulfilled?

If we have 3 scenarios, where one is depicting local events, the other two are depicting global events, and that the former being a type, the latter two being an anti-type, what would all of that mean if we are viewing all 3 scenarios like such?

Ezekiel 38-39 is fulfilled in the final days of this age. And so is what is recorded in Revelation 19. But what is recorded in Revelation 20:7-10, it is fulfilled in another age following the end of this age.

As to types and anti-types, what would this mean in regards to Ezekiel 38-39 and Revelation 19 since both accounts are being fulfilled in the final days of this age?

Unless someone can present convincing proof that all of Ezekiel 38-39 has already been fulfilled, in the meantime it is not reasonable to insist all of those events have already been fulfilled if one can't even convincingly prove it by providing undeniable evidence that is has already been fulfilled. Some interpreters argue, well look what it's involving, it's involving ancient weaponry, therefore, this proves it can't fit the 21st century.

Is that same interpreter going to argue likewise about what is recorded in Revelation 19, that since that depicts armies on horses, the 21st century can't be meant then? When it should be obvious to everyone, that if a prophet, such as Ezekiel in ch 38-39, is being told through visions or whatever about things pertaining to the 21st century, and that he is being told about these events during ancient times, then is describing what he is being told/seeing, he is going to be comparing it to things he is familiar with at the time. So, if he sees it involving missiles, for example, obviously he is not familiar with missiles during his day and time, therefore, he might use arrows to describe those things, so on and so on.
Eziekel 38:39 were historical events that happened at that time ....and also depicts what it will be like in the last days there will be powers that are of "likeness" (same character) of the powers referenced.

Much of scripture's history is letting us know what we can expect in the future. The book of Revelation is especially symbolic ... it is like a highly condensed account of important events that happened throughout history, and also letting us know what we can expect (what it will be like) in the future. We also know that these things will escalate (like birth pangs).

The nature of man has not ... does not change (we are corrupt) .... we keep doing the same things over and over again ...... different times, different "players". The types of things that happened in the past (more localized) will happen globally.

Ecclesiastes 1:9

King James Bible
The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.

Ecclesiastes 1:10
Is there a case where one can say, "Look, this is new"? It has already existed in the ages before us.
 
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Let's see if I got this right?

In the last days, God has poured out His Spirit on all flesh. So in these last days, just before the GWT Judgment, God's Spirit is now indwelling all flesh, numbering as the sand of the sea.

Then Satan suddenly pops up out of his prison and is promptly able to deceives all these Spirit led nations, to follow after Gog of Magog, and to war against the Jews Revelation 20:7

And this is after thesse nations have first beaten all their weapons into plowshares so as to learn war no more. Will the nations now beat their plowshares back into swords to go after Israel?

Is this the kingdom Christ hands over to his Father 1 Corinthians 15:24-28 ?


What's wrong with this picture?
From what I read, the reason why God has a future Millennial age is because some people will think that without the temptations and influence of Satan, that Man would then be sinless and therefore shouldn't be blamed. The Millennial Age will show that man still sins albeit at a lower level.

Jesus reigns over the world to keep it in order. Any people who aren't believers from the tribulation that's still alive will live during this time and will continue to marry and be given in marriage, and have children. These mortal people will still be able to decide for themselves whether they want to be with the Lord or not. The Lord's people in the meantime, will reign with Him, probably as administrators of cities, and such.

Then at the end of the Millennial age, God wants to show that rebellion is still in the heart of mortal Man but Man won't be strong enough to raise up opposition against God by themselves. So God will release Satan to allow Satan to muster up these rebellious people. But this is so weak and will end embarrassingly quick for Man and Satan. I mean Jesus won't even have to do much, lol!

And then the Lord will hand over the kingdom to His Father.
 
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@saint2

Here is how trumpet 7 fits graphically.

A little explanation of the timeframes....

The 1260 days is exactly half of the 7 years (2520 days). The 42 months of the beast's rule (Revelation 13:5) is in terms of days 1256.5 days, because it implies unimpeded by the two witnesses who will have left this earth.

When the 7th trumpet sounds and Satan is cast down to earth to be a terror (Ezekiel 28:19), he will have a time/times/half time left which is a little less than the 42 months. We don't have enough information to know in terms of days.

So, that is why in Revelation the timeframes are three different expressions - to basically represent half of the seven years each, of which only the 1260 days is exactly half of the seven years.

1260 days - exactly half of seven years
42 months - a little less than half
time/time/half time - a little more less than half
View attachment 328655

Doug, from your chart, are you saying that Daniel's 70th week doesn't come until after all the first six seals events ?

Including the cataclysmic events of Seal 6 (Rev 6:1 to Rev 7:9) ?

That is after, earthquakes with every mountain and island moved, stars falling to earth, and everyone hiding themselves in caves and rocks, Rev 6:12-17 ?

Plus the 144,000 sealed ones from Israel and the innumerable multitude of saints now standing before the throne, Rev 7:1-9 ?

I thought the sixth seal was going to bring in Isaiah's new heavens and new/renewed earth where no evil could prosper?

Bob..
 
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Yes, most of the time. The Romans did interfere in the last stages of the war.
This is the first time am hearing that Jerusalem was destroyed by a civil war - which is as false as claiming that Julius Caesar was Egyptian! The Romans attacked the zealots, slaughtered them and went on to destroy the temple by dismantling the walls in the false belief that it was made of gold.
 
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From what I read, the reason why God has a future Millennial age is because some people will think that without the temptations and influence of Satan, that Man would then be sinless and therefore shouldn't be blamed. The Millennial Age will show that man still sins albeit at a lower level.

Jesus reigns over the world to keep it in order. Any people who aren't believers from the tribulation that's still alive will live during this time and will continue to marry and be given in marriage, and have children. These mortal people will still be able to decide for themselves whether they want to be with the Lord or not. The Lord's people in the meantime, will reign with Him, probably as administrators of cities, and such.

Then at the end of the Millennial age, God wants to show that rebellion is still in the heart of mortal Man but Man won't be strong enough to raise up opposition against God by themselves. So God will release Satan to allow Satan to muster up these rebellious people. But this is so weak and will end embarrassingly quick for Man and Satan. I mean Jesus won't even have to do much, lol!

And then the Lord will hand over the kingdom to His Father.
Second Time is the Charm,

Jesus Christ is the Savior of the World, 1 John 4:14

For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved, John 3:17

There is no way that Christ will hand over to his Father a Kingdom (1 Cor 15:24) as pictured in Rev 20:7-9. That is, a kingdom still inhabited by heathen.

Obviously, this passage of Rev 20:7-9 does not chronologically come just before the GWTJ.

Bob..
 
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Jesus Christ is the Savior of the World, 1 John 4:14

For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved, John 3:17

There is no way that Christ will hand over to his Father a Kingdom (1 Cor 15:24) as pictured in Rev 20:7-9. That is, a kingdom still inhabited by heathen.

Obviously, this passage of Rev 20:7-9 does not chronologically come just before the GWTJ.

Bob..

Then just wait until God makes what He wrote in the Bible come to pass and show us how it all works out. It's not complicated.
 
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Doug, from your chart, are you saying that Daniel's 70th week doesn't come until after all the first six seals events ?
Hi saint2,

No, that is not what I am saying. The six seals span Daniel's 70th week.

The seals, the trumpets, the vials, the 1260 days, the 42 months, the time/times/half time, the 3 1/2 days, the 1290 days, the 1335 days, the 2300 days - are all within the 70th week.

I show the just six seals beneath the dotted timeline of the 7 years, on the first chart below.

On the second chart, above the dotted timeline, I add the information of the great tribulation, the AoD, and the trumpets, and that the armies gather at Armageddon when they see the sign of the Son of Man in heaven, to get the complete picture.

FIRST CHART:

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SECOND CHART:


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I thought the sixth seal was going to bring in Isaiah's new heavens and new/renewed earth where no evil could prosper?
Bob, the sixth seal event does not speak of a new heaven and new earth.

What happens in the sixth seal, the powers of the second heaven, i.e. the cosmos, are shaken, and pulled aside like a curtain on a stage - and the world sees the Son of man (Matthew 24:30a) - Jesus - before the throne of God in the third heaven - sickle in hand (from Revelation 14:14) showing His intent to execute judgment on the evil men of the world who have been martyring the great tribulation saints (as it says the martyred saints plead for Lord Jesus to avenge their deaths in the 5th seal).

When the sixth seal happens on the 70th week timeline - is 1290 days forward from when the AoD is first placed on the temple mount, then the power of heaven will be shaken and the sign of the Son of man will appear.

The AoD will be placed on the temple mount 1335 days before Jesus descends to earth to stand on the mount of Olives, and executes judgment.

During the 45 days (on the chart below highlighted in blue) between the 1290 days and 1335 days, the kings of the earth will gather their armies at Armageddon with the (in vain) intent of stopping Jesus from executing judgment on them. Psalms 2:1 Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?

I made this chart to make the 1290 days and 1335 days and 45 days relationship more clear....



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But Jesus said that when He returns the just and the unjust will be raised: "Do not marvel at this, for the hour is coming in which all who are in the graves shall hear His voice, and shall come forth, those who have done good to the resurrection of life, and those who have practiced evil to the resurrection of condemnation." John 5:28-29.
So when are the unrighteous resurrected, according to your premillennial scheme?

Neither does Revelation 20:14 combine death and hades itself with the souls mentioned in Revelation 20:15. The second death is the second death. Nothing that is written in Revelation 19 through 20 restricts the second death to only receive souls once for all time, and once only.
Would you be able to explain this to me?
 
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