Gods Words Are Clear, The Deception Used To Deceive The World Into Taking The Mark And Image Worship Is Fire Called From Heaven By The False Prophet

[Douggg]

"I Disagree", Matthew 24:3-51 is dedicated to signs that precede the second coming, and the actual second coming end of this world, future events unfulfilled

Matthew 24:4-13 precede the second coming - but began 2000 years ago.

The parable of the fig tree generation is not 2000 years old.

The parable of the fig tree generation will witness Matthew 24:15-30, when the abomination of desolation takes place and the great tribulation, and Jesus's Second Coming.

I updated my chart to annotate "parable of the fig tree generation".

 

[Truth7t7]

Matthew 24:4-13 precede the second coming - but began 2000 years ago.

The parable of the fig tree generation is not 2000 years old.

The parable of the fig tree generation will witness Matthew 24:15-30, when the abomination of desolation takes place and the great tribulation, and Jesus's Second Coming.

I updated my chart to annotate "parable of the fig tree generation".

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Once again Jesus was speaking of "Future" events that would take place, these being signs of the Lord's second coming

 

[Douggg]

Once again Jesus was speaking of "Future" events that would take place, these being signs of the Lord's second coming

Future of the day Jesus spoke to the disciples, but verses 15-51 are the end times signs of the Lord's second coming.

 

[Jipsah]

Jesus did not return to the generation of the disciples. His return is still future.

So was His death, so His audience wouldn't really have grasped where He was returning from, would they?

Does seem like His audience really did see Jerusalem sacked, the Temple leveled, the city surrounded by armies, blood running in the streets, ad horrificus. Saying "Oh, those prophecies haven't been fulfilled yet" seems just the least bit ridiculous, doesn't it? Or "oh, those things didn't count". Right. Or imginaing that the stuff He was saying wasn't supposed to mean anything to the people who had asked the question that led to the discourse in the first place. Yeah, He speaks of His return there, but imaghining that He was speaking solely of His return there requires that you ignore the context completely. Almost as if the conclusion was made a priori and then the Scripture "interpreted" to agree with it. Making the Scripture agree with the doctrine rather than the other way around.

 

[Truth7t7]

Future of the day Jesus spoke to the disciples, but verses 15-51 are the end times signs of the Lord's second coming.

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I Disagree, Matthew 24:3-14 Is repeated in parallel teachings in Matthew 24 to the "Future" generation that will be eyewitnesses of the signs and events preceding the second coming

Verse 11 & 24 in "Bold Red" below is the same warning in parallel teachings, no separation in time is seen or given as is falsely claimed, same warning in parallel teachings to "Future" events unfulfilled

Matthew 24:3-31KJV
3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?
4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.
8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.
9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.
10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.
11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand
16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:
18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.
19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!
20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
25 Behold, I have told you before.
26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

 

[Douggg]

I Disagree, Matthew 24:3-14 Is repeated in parallel teachings in Matthew 24 to the "Future" generation that will be eyewitnesses of the signs and events preceding the second coming

Verse 11 & 24 in "Bold Red" below is the same warning in parallel teachings, no separation in time is seen or given as is falsely claimed, same warning in parallel teachings to "Future" events unfulfilled

Matthew 24:3-31KJV
3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?
4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.
8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.
9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.
10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.
11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand
16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:
18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.
19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!
20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
25 Behold, I have told you before.
26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

Matthew 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

The end times verses when Jesus returns do not begin until verse 15.

 

[Truth7t7]

Matthew 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

The end times verses when Jesus returns do not begin until verse 15.

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"I Strongly Disagree"

 

[Douggg]

"I Strongly Disagree"

What do you disagree about the statement...

Matthew 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

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The disciples asked Jesus...

Matthew 24:1 And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple: and his disciples came to him for to shew him the buildings of the temple.

2 And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.

3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?

a. when shall these thing be ? i.e. the temple destroyed. (see my chart below, left column)
b. the sign of thy coming ? i.e. the sign of the Son of man in heaven (Matthew 24:30a, end times, the sixth seal)
c. the end of the world ? the end of the world as we know it. (Matthew 24:30b, end times when Jesus returns)

 

[claninja]

Reformed Preterist 66-70AD fulfillment is a lie, the future generation that will witness the signs and second coming "Will Not Pass" a future generation unfulfilled!

Did Jesus come again in 66-70AD absolutely not!

Matthew 24:3KJV
3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?

1.) Old Testament Cloud-Judgments as a Precedent​

Here are two examples of God descending from heaven (with clouds) to judge nations and His enemies in the Old Testament:

• 2 Samuel 22:8-12 – God came in judgment against David’s enemies.
• Isaiah 19:1 – Yahweh "rides on a swift cloud" to bring judgment upon Egypt through a foreign nation.

The Partial Preterist position that holds that the Olivet Discourse was completely fulfilled in 70 AD believes Jesus (the Son of Man) came on the clouds in judgment upon Israel—just LIKE the Ancient of Days had done in the OT - (see original greek version of Daniel, the version that existed during first century, where Daniel 7:13-14 has the son of man coming on the clouds "AS/LIKE" the ancient of days instead of "TO" the ancient of days).

In other words, Jesus’ coming on the clouds in 70 AD was not a physical, bodily descent but a judgment event, just as God’s "coming on the clouds" in 2 Samuel 22:8-12 and Isaiah 19:1 was a symbolic representation of His wrath executed through earthly means.

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2.) The Disciples Were Told They Would KNOW When It Was Near​

Jesus explicitly told His disciples that when they saw the signs unfolding, they would KNOW it was near—right at the door—just as the sprouting of a fig tree indicates summer is near (Matthew 24:32-33).

Did the apostles of Jesus' generation witness these signs?

• Earthquakes? (acts 16:26)
• Famines? (acts 11:28)
• Persecutions? (acts 4, acts 5, acts 7, acts 12, etc...)
• False Christs? (Josephus records false messiahs appearing before 70 AD (Jewish War 2.13.4, 6.5.2))
• Many falling away? (1 john 2:19)
• The gospel reaching the whole oikoumene (Roman world)? (colossians 1:23, romans 1:, romans 10:18)
• The destruction of Jerusalem and the Temple?

If these things didn’t happen in their lifetime, why did the New Testament authors repeatedly emphasize that His coming was near, "right at the door" (James 5:8-9), that He would come in a little while, without delay (Hebrews 10:37), that the end of all things had drawn near (1 Peter 4:7), or that it was the last hour (1 John 2:18-19)?

 

[claninja]

Matthew 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

Right, Jesus is recorded as saying the gospel would go into all the world (oikoumene) and then the end would come in matthew 24:14.

Much later after Jesus had spoken these words, Paul said the gospel had gone out into the whole oikoumene, to every creature under heaven: romans 1:8, romans 10:18, colossians 1:23

 

[claninja]

Jesus did not return to the generation of the disciples. His return is still future.

Could Jesus have come on the clouds in judgment in 70ad in a similar manner as God coming down from heaven on clouds to judge enemies and nations (2 samuel 22:8-12, Isaiah 19:1)?

 

[Truth7t7]

In other words, Jesus’ coming on the clouds in 70 AD was not a physical, bodily descent but a judgment event

I'm fully aware of what reformed (partial preterism) teaches and it's "False" IMHO

The scripture below shows Jesus literally coming in the clouds in verse 30, human eyes on earth will witness the "future" event, verse 31 shows the last trump sounding in the last day resurrection (The End) in the angels gathering the saved elect from the entire world, they shall meet him in the clouds

Conclusion: Reformed Preterist 70AD fulfillment is "False"!

Matthew 24:29-31KJV
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

 

[Truth7t7]

Could Jesus have come on the clouds in judgment in 70ad in a similar manner as God coming down from heaven on clouds to judge enemies and nations (2 samuel 22:8-12, Isaiah 19:1)?

As my response shows above, Jesus will literally return in the clouds of heaven, literal eyes on this earth will witness the event

(They Shall See The Son Of Man Coming)

Daniel's AOD, The Great Tribulation, And The Literal Second Coming Of Jesus In The Heavens Are "Future" Events Unfulfilled

Reformed Preterist Claims In 70AD Fulfillment Is "False"!

 

[claninja]

I'm fully aware of what reformed (partial preterism) teaches and it's "False" IMHO

The scripture below shows Jesus literally coming in the clouds in verse 30, human eyes on earth will witness the "future" event, verse 31 shows the last trump sounding in the last day resurrection (The End) in the angels gathering the saved elect from the entire world, they shall meet him in the clouds

Conclusion: Reformed Preterist 70AD fulfillment is "False"!

Matthew 24:29-31KJV
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

Your position requires that Matthew 24:29-31 must be literal language. However, the Old testament often employs language like this in a non literal sense. Some examples include:

• God "descending from heaven on the clouds" to judge nations/enemies (2 samuel 22:8-12, Isaiah 19:1)
• God baring his arms in front of the "eyes/sight of the all the nations" when returning Israel from Babylonian exile (Isaiah 52:10)
• The Sun and moon not giving light, and the stars falling from heaven when Babylon was judged by the medes (isaiah 13:10)

Therefore, I disagree with your position that Matthew 24:29-31 is required to be understood as hyper literalistic, when 1.) this type of language is used in non-literal instances in the OT and 2.) Jesus said "this generation will not pass away until all these things occur".

 

[Truth7t7]

Your position requires that Matthew 24:29-31 must be literal language. However, the Old testament often employs language like this in a non literal sense. Some examples include:

• God "descending from heaven on the clouds" to judge nations/enemies (2 samuel 22:8-12, Isaiah 19:1)
• God baring his arms in front of the "eyes/sight of the all the nations" when returning Israel from Babylonian exile (Isaiah 52:10)
• The Sun and moon not giving light, and the stars falling from heaven when Babylon was judged by the medes (isaiah 13:10)

Therefore, I disagree with your position that Matthew 24:29-31 is required to be understood as hyper literalistic, when 1.) this type of language is used in non-literal instances in the OT and 2.) Jesus said "this generation will not pass away until all these things occur".

I Disagree with the reformed preterist interpretation, Matthew 24:29-31 is a future literal second coming that will be seen by future human eyes on this earth, "This Generation" pertains to those that will be eye witness to the future event, removing this literal event seen through symbolic allegory is removing from scripture IMHO, Scary!

Matthew 24:30KJV
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

 

[claninja]

I Disagree with the reformed preterist interpretation, Matthew 24:29-31 is a future literal second coming that will be seen by future human eyes on this earth, "This Generation" pertains to those that will be eye witness to the future event, removing this literal event seen through symbolic allegory is removing from scripture IMHO, Scary!

Matthew 24:30KJV
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

1.) Ancient Jewish/Christian Apocalyptic literature does NOT demand, nor require, hyper literal interpretation. The apocalyptic motif often employs FIGURATIVE language.

• The son of man coming on the clouds is an allusion to Daniel 7:13-14 (apocalyptic literature).
• All the tribes of the land mourning is an allusion to Zechariah 12:11-14 (apocalyptic literature)
• The sun and moon not giving light, and the stars falling from heaven are allusions to Isaiah 13:10 and Ezekiel 32:7-8 (apocalyptic literature)

I completely disagree with a fundamentalist approach to the apocalyptic motif.

2.) how can “this generation” exist from the time of the destruction of the Temple in 70ad til 2000 plus years later?

“This generation” will not pass away until “all” these things occur. The temple destruction should be included in “all these things”.

 

[Truth7t7]

“This generation” will not pass away until “all” these things occur. The temple destruction should be included in “all these things”.

Peterism takes the symbolic temple destruction in Matthew 24:2 and interprets it as a literal destruction in 70AD, and the literal second coming in Matthew24:29-31 as a symbolic

The temple being destroyed in Matthew 24:2 was symbolic of the Lord's death and resurrection, and yes his disciples remembered what he had said about the temples destruction

At the death of Jesus Christ, the veil in the temple was rent, the temple was symbolically destroyed, and after the resurrection this temple was replaced, by the body of Jesus Christ

Yes Preterism takes the literal second coming seen in Matthew 24:29-31, and symbolizes this into a "Coming Judgement" upon Israel in 70AD By Roman Armies

Matthew 27:50:51KJV
50 Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost.
51 And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent;

John 2:19-22KJV
19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.
20 Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?
21 But he spake of the temple of his body.
22 When therefore he was risen from the dead, his disciples remembered that he had said this unto them; and they believed the scripture, and the word which Jesus had said.

 

[claninja]

Peterism takes the symbolic temple destruction in Matthew 24:2 and interprets it as a literal destruction in 70AD, and the literal second coming in Matthew24:29-31 as a symbolic

The temple being destroyed in Matthew 24:2 was symbolic of the Lord's death and resurrection, and yes his disciples remembered what he had said about the temples destruction

At the death of Jesus Christ, the veil in the temple was rent, the temple was symbolically destroyed, and after the resurrection this temple was replaced, by the body of Jesus Christ

Yes Preterism takes the literal second coming seen in Matthew 24:29-31, and symbolizes this into a "Coming Judgement" upon Israel in 70AD By Roman Armies

Matthew 27:50:51KJV
50 Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost.
51 And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent;

John 2:19-22KJV
19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.
20 Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?
21 But he spake of the temple of his body.
22 When therefore he was risen from the dead, his disciples remembered that he had said this unto them; and they believed the scripture, and the word which Jesus had said.

You are conflating 2 different Greek words for temple, and then assigning the wrong usage for hieron in Matthew 24:1-2.

Matthew 24:1-2 is in reference to the “hieron” which has a definition and usage of the literal temple complex. It is NOT used to describe a “spiritual” temple

• Usage: The term "hieron" refers specifically to the entire temple complex, including the outer courts and all the buildings associated with the temple. It is distinct from "naos," which refers to the inner sanctuary or the Holy of Holies. In the New Testament, "hieron" is often used to describe the physical structure of the Jewish temple in Jerusalem, where religious activities, sacrifices, and teaching took place. - strongs lexicon

John 2:19 uses the word “Naos”, which which can mean literal sanctuary OR spiritual sanctuary. Naos is used to describe a spiritual temple.

• Usage: In the New Testament, "ναός" (naos) refers specifically to the inner sanctuary or the most sacred part of the temple where God's presence dwells. It is distinct from the broader temple complex, which includes the outer courts. The term is used both literally, to describe the physical temple in Jerusalem, and metaphorically, to describe the body of Christ and the body of believers as the dwelling place of the Holy Spirit. - strongs lexicon

Jesus is referring to the literal temple complex, as evidenced by the plural pronoun “these things” which refers to its antecedent - “buildings of the temple complex(hieron)”. Jesus is no way referring to a spiritual temple (naos), as evidenced by the contextual setting, the specific use of “hieron”, AND the grammar. Additionally, the literal temple complex was destroyed within Jesus’ generation.

1Jesus left the temple and was going away, when his disciples came to point out to him the buildings of the temple. 2But he answered them, “You see all these things, do you not? Truly, I say to you, there will not be left here one stone upon another that will not be thrown down.”

You seem to be spiritualizing away what is literal and making literal what is apocalyptic and figurative allusions to OT passages

 

[Spiritual Jew]

Right, Jesus is recorded as saying the gospel would go into all the world (oikoumene) and then the end would come in matthew 24:14.

Much later after Jesus had spoken these words, Paul said the gospel had gone out into the whole oikoumene, to every creature under heaven: romans 1:8, romans 10:18, colossians 1:23

Just because the same word was used in those verses as what is used in Matthew 24:14 does not mean they have the same context. That word has multiple definitions and can refer to the known world (which does not include the entire world) or it can refer to the entire world including the part that wasn't known at the time. I believe Jesus was referring to the entire world, including unknown parts of the world, while the verses written by Paul referred to the known world at the time rather than the entire world including the unknown parts of it.

Also, there's the fact that the end of the age did not come in 70 AD. Jesus taught that this age is temporal when people die and get married while the age to come is eternal when people will no longer die and get married (Luke 20:34-36). So, the end of age did NOT come in 70 AD, which means that Matthew 24:14 cannot possibly be fulfilled yet. One of the questions Jesus was asked about was His coming and the end of the age and He did not come and there was no end to any age in 70 AD.

 

[Spiritual Jew]

1.) Ancient Jewish/Christian Apocalyptic literature does NOT demand, nor require, hyper literal interpretation. The apocalyptic motif often employs FIGURATIVE language.

• The son of man coming on the clouds is an allusion to Daniel 7:13-14 (apocalyptic literature).

Daniel 7:13-14 is all about the ascension of Jesus Christ to heaven after His resurrection long ago. He came on the cloudes of heaven TO the Ancient of Days, which refers to God the Father. What is described in Daniel 7:13-14 matches what is described in Ephesians 1:19-22 which refers to the ascension of Jesus Christ to the right hand of the Father in heaven after His resurrection.

• All the tribes of the land mourning is an allusion to Zechariah 12:11-14 (apocalyptic literature)

No, Zechariah 12:11-14 refers to people being saddened and mourning Jesus's death while Matthew 24:30 refers to people wailing in fear of His wrath when He comes (same as Revelation 1:7 which refers to people fearing His wrath, as described in Revelation 6:12-17).

2.) how can “this generation” exist from the time of the destruction of the Temple in 70ad til 2000 plus years later?

Very easily because "this generation" refers to the Jewish race of people and not a chronological generation.

“This generation” will not pass away until “all” these things occur. The temple destruction should be included in “all these things”.

I disagree. He was only referring to the things that relate to the time before His future second coming at the end of the age and not to the temple destruction. I think you would agree, however, that all these things would include the gathering of the elect from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven (Mark 13:27), right? So, tell me how the elect were all gathered from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven in 70 AD.