Yes, what you write is absolutely true. The problem with the Seventh Day Adventists is that they ignore virtually all of God's commandments except the Ten Commmandments.
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Not so.
Jesus told the disciples even stricter rules - if any man even just looks at a woman with adulery in his heart, that is sin with a death penalty (as all sin has).
Then compare others who reduce it actually to obeying God NOT AT ALL. They usually claim either no commandments, or just 2 commandments, and obey no one. (no one Godly , not God, nor His appointed and/ or anointed men) ....
I don't agree at all,Yes, what you write is absolutely true. The problem with the Seventh Day Adventists is that they ignore virtually all of God's commandments except the Ten Commmandments.
I don't agree at all,
but even if it were true,
that would put them far ahead of others who don't obey even one commandment, right ?
Why is that a problem for you ?
All that can be done, is like revealed in the OT when the city was besieged by the enemy, but YHWH'S people were in no danger at all, as His Chariots of fire were all around the city, much greater, for His Purpose , thus praying that your eyes be opened , to see what is all around you.How many Christians do you know who go about advocating murder and commit murder themselves? I don't know any, so unless you can provide an example, your case against "others who don't obey even one commandment" is null and void.
How many Christians do you know who go about advocating murder and commit murder themselves? I don't know any,
Yes, what you write is absolutely true. The problem with the Seventh Day Adventists is that they ignore virtually all of God's commandments except the Ten Commmandments.
A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another. By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another. John 13:34,35
You forgot this one, Bob.
Nope -- it is all included. The fallacy of "either-or" not accepted here.
The Command to "not take God's name in vain" is literal - just like all the others - it means "really... don't do it".
This point is so obvious that BOTH sides admit to it - as can be seen in the case of all the pro-Sunday groups accepting the fact that all TEN of the TEN Commandments are part of the moral law of God written on the heart.
The Baptist Confession of Faith,
the Westminster Confession of Faith ,
D.L. Moody,
R.C Sproul,
Matthew Henry,
Thomas Watson
Eastern Orthodox Catechism
The Catholic Catechism.
The point remains.
You're not a commandment keeper just because you don't take the Lord's name in vain
In this post - I show that this is an easy objective Bible detail that BOTH sides freely admit.
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The Command to "not take God's name in vain" is literal - just like all the others - it means "really... don't do it".
This point is so obvious that BOTH sides admit to it - as can be seen in the case of all the pro-Sunday groups accepting the fact that all TEN of the TEN Commandments are part of the moral law of God written on the heart.
The Baptist Confession of Faith,
the Westminster Confession of Faith ,
D.L. Moody,
R.C Sproul,
Matthew Henry,
Thomas Watson
Eastern Orthodox Catechism
The Catholic Catechism.
The point remains.
amen. Christians choose not to break the Ten Commandments.
I don't choose not to break the Ten Commandments. I just don't break them because I am guided by the Holy Spirit.
Choice is in the mind. I am guided by the Holy Spirit; there is no mental process involved.
As it turns out - you have free will.
In Romans 7 - Paul says with his mind he chooses to serve the Law of God.
Free will choice is the difference between saved-vs-lost. It is not arbitrary selection by God that determines it.
Matt 23
37 “Jerusalem, Jerusalem, who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her! How often I wanted to gather your children together, the way a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and you were unwilling. 38 Behold, your house is being left to you desolate! 39 For I say to you, from now on you will not see Me until you say, ‘Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord!’”
John 1:11 "He came to His OWN - and His OWN received Him not" --
Choice... free will
2 Cor 5 "we beg you on behalf of Christ - be reconciled to God"
Choice... free wlll
As I said, I am guided by the Holy Spirit. If you want to call that free will, fine.That is diametrically opposite from being a slave to sin.
Romans 7 depicts the struggle that one has when one is a slave and cannot do what they want.
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bloodygrace said:You're not a commandment keeper just because you don't take the Lord's name in vain. You're also not a commandment keeper because you go to church on Saturday. It's not what you do that makes you righteous but who you know and Christ left your church a long time ago.
pescador said:I don't choose not to break the Ten Commandments. I just don't break them because I am guided by the Holy Spirit. If I go into a store, I don't choose whether to steal or not. I don't choose not to kill somebody. I don't choose not to commit adultery -- I love my wife.
Choice is in the mind. I am guided by the Holy Spirit; there is no mental process involved.
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