God's creation Timeline refutes evolution

[Aman777]

False that Adam chose to obey God..hence the fall. Hence, man lost his dominion, and never really got to fulfill all that God had for Him.

Really? Do you actually believe that God made the worlds to be inhabited only by Adam and Eve? A&E did not and could not have sex until AFTER the fall. They were like Angels and like Humans will be in the 3rd Heaven, according to Jesus. Mat 22:30

That doesn't mean Adam was not a real man that was already created on day six, or that there were no stars in the star already created and finished. That does not mean woman was not created and a done deal. It was all finished by Gen 2 verse one.

Amen. When it is finished (brought to perfection) you are correct. First, we must get to the events at the end of the present 6th Day. Gen 1:28-31

It never said He went comatose! He always works. Just because He had finished our world and life and the universe one week and rested from that, does not mean He went into some vegetative sleep state.

God is an invisible Spirit and does not need rest. The word rest is to cease your work. What is God's work? It is creating. When God rests/ceases to create, it will be because His creation has been made perfect and then, He will cease to create. IF God ceased to create in the beginning, no one could be saved because it takes the agreement of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit to "create". Gen 1:26 John 14:16

He rested from the work mentioned which was creation week. It is not sound to imagine that means He died or went fishing or went on strike and would not be alive and well and working.

In fact it is ridiculous to think He ever will.

Amen, not until God's creation is made perfect, which it will be AFTER Jesus returns and reigns on Earth for a thousand years. God will NOT cease to create sinners in Christ Spiritually until the last sinner is saved.

Don't conflate the creation week with all creation of anything ever!

When He says "it" was finished, we can look to chapter one to what 'it' refers to, and that is the days of creation.

Amen. When it is finished (brought to perfection) we will enter God's rest. Heb 4:9 There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.

 

[Aman777]

4 October 2018 Aman777: "prophecy of Genesis 1:28-31" lies (this is God giving blessings, commands and gifts).
We can give the date of the 6th day as in the past. People have been doing that for centuries by using the genealogies listed in the Bible.

Amen, but God told Daniel how He hid His Truth from ancient man since ONLY the people of the last days have the "increased knowledge" to understand what God told us in Genesis. Daniel 12:4

The sixth day is in the past even in his fairy stories - see "Day 6" in the OP.

Since I am the OP, it is easy to post evidence of your deceit. From the OP.

Soon, Jesus returns at Armageddon, rules Earth for a thousand years, and the 6th Day/Age ends Gen 1:31

You should apologize to everyone here for misleading them. Is this Trump?

 

[Aman777]

A multiverse not in the bible. Funny the sun was made before day 6 so it is in the bible.

The first Heaven was made the 2nd Day, by God the Trinity. Genesis 1:8
The other Heavens were made the 3rd Day, by God the Son. Genesis 2:4
Adam was made from the dust on the 3rd Day, by God the Son. Genesis 2:4-7
The Stars lit up on the 4th Day. Genesis 1:16
Eve was made from Adam's rib on the present 6th Day. Genesis 2:22
Adam AND Eve were "created" Eternally, by God the Trinity on the present 6th Day. Genesis 1:27 Genesis 5:1-2 and John 14:16

Your view does NOT agree with the above verses. Do you have ANY Scriptural support for your view? If so, please provide chapter and verse.

 

[Aman777]

Dear TLK, Reality check just posted this view of Lake Van. It contains my view that the bottom of the firmament, shaped like a Wok, is in the Lake. The search narrows:

Wiki: The deep, western portion of the lake is a dome-shaped basin lying in a tectonic depression formed by a combination of normal and strike-slip faulting and thrusting.[7]

It's additional proof that Adam's firmament is hidden in the Lake. Amen?

 

[dad]

Really? Do you actually believe that God made the worlds to be inhabited only by Adam and Eve? A&E did not and could not have sex until AFTER the fall. They were like Angels and like Humans will be in the 3rd Heaven, according to Jesus. Mat 22:30

Who cares what we believe about when that couple had their first intimate encounter? Seems to me that Adam woke up to find a woman made for him in her birthday clothes, so I suspect he obeyed the 'multiply' command promptly.

Amen. When it is finished (brought to perfection) you are correct. First, we must get to the events at the end of the present 6th Day. Gen 1:28-31

The creation was finished and very good in His sight. Getting to perfection because we lost it at the fall is simply not what was finished then.

God is an invisible Spirit and does not need rest. The word rest is to cease your work. What is God's work? It is creating. When God rests/ceases to create, it will be because His creation has been made perfect and then, He will cease to create. IF God ceased to create in the beginning, no one could be saved because it takes the agreement of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit to "create". Gen 1:26 John 14:16

I find it disingenuous to play with the word create to try to make it mean that creation as recorded in Gen was not done. But we will agree to disagree.

Amen, not until God's creation is made perfect, which it will be AFTER Jesus returns and reigns on Earth for a thousand years. God will NOT cease to create sinners in Christ Spiritually until the last sinner is saved.

When you take that to mean Adam was on some other planet and is related to monkeys, and lived in some magic bubble world under a lake, and Adam lived millions of years and etc etc...we know you got something wrong in the foundation of your case.

Amen. When it is finished (brought to perfection) we will enter God's rest. Heb 4:9 There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.

Yes we will be made perfect one day. That does not mean the six day creation was not finished when God said it was by Gen 2:1

 

[dad]

The first Heaven was made the 2nd Day, by God the Trinity. Genesis 1:8
The other Heavens were made the 3rd Day, by God the Son. Genesis 2:4
Adam was made from the dust on the 3rd Day, by God the Son. Genesis 2:4-7
The Stars lit up on the 4th Day. Genesis 1:16
Eve was made from Adam's rib on the present 6th Day. Genesis 2:22
Adam AND Eve were "created" Eternally, by God the Trinity on the present 6th Day. Genesis 1:27 Genesis 5:1-2 and John 14:16

Your view does NOT agree with the above verses. Do you have ANY Scriptural support for your view? If so, please provide chapter and verse.

Actually, man was made right here on earth, and under the heaven here. Any other claim is baseless and weird.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Actually, man was made right here on earth, and under the heaven here. Any other claim is baseless and weird.

Ah, but which Earth? @Aman777 will be happy to tell you that this one isn't the first...

 

[dad]

Ah, but which Earth? @Aman777 will be happy to tell you that this one isn't the first...

Some people would be happy to tell me that they had laser/x ray eyes also I suppose.

I think maybe a few folks are so desperate to try and justify evolution from lower life forms, that they went so far as to invent another planet to try and fit bits of Gen in that simply won't fit with the theory of evolution. Naturally they needed to invent some mechanism to get man to this supposedly new 'planet of the apes'. Then we of course get into the sexual deviation fantasies..etc etc.

 

[RealityCheck01]

Dear TLK, Reality check just posted this view of Lake Van. It contains my view that the bottom of the firmament, shaped like a Wok, is in the Lake.

5 October 2018 Aman777: A lie that "this view of Lake Van" contains his firmament delusion.
That "view" looks like 4 October 2018 Aman777: Adds a "11k years of volcanic debris" fantasy to his firmament in Lake Van fairy story.

This is the real Lake Van

But that leads to the insanity of never looking at the real Lake Van until now !

 

[RealityCheck01]

Wiki: The deep, western portion of the lake is a dome-shaped basin lying in a tectonic depression formed by a combination of normal and strike-slip faulting and thrusting.[7]

5 October 2018 Aman777: A delusion that a "dome-shaped basin" a few miles wide is God's firmament separating waters.
This is the real Lake Van. That "dome-shaped basin" has a reference. That reference details the structure of the lake and his delusion does not appear!
Sectons through the Tatvan basin are more rectangular than circular with steep side and a flat bottom.

Toker, Mustafa; Sengör, Ali Mehmet Celal; Demirel Schluter, Filiz; Demirbağ, Emin; Çukur, Deniz; İmren, Caner; Niessen, Frank (May 2017), "The structural elements and tectonics of the Lake Van basin (Eastern Anatolia) from multi-channel seismic reflection profiles", Journal of African Earth Sciences, 129: 165–178, doi:10.1016/j.jafrearsci.2017.01.002

The southern part of the Tatvan basin is cut by a normal fault, while the northern part of the basin is bounded by a reverse fault. Folded structures are present in the deeper sedimentary sections.

 

[RealityCheck01]

Really? Do you actually believe that God made the worlds to be inhabited only by Adam and Eve? A&E did not and could not have sex until AFTER the fall. They were like Angels and like Humans will be in the 3rd Heaven, according to Jesus. Mat 22:30

5 October 2018 Aman777: A delusion that Adam and Eve did not and could not have sex in the Garden and were like angels.
Genesis explicitly states that that God made Adam and Eve as man and woman. They had the apparatus for sex. It did not magically appear after the fall! They were the first humans and were not "like angels".
A small lie about Matthew 22:30 and its account the status of marriage at the resurrection.
Marriage at the Resurrection
The resurrected will be not married, like angels are not married.

 

[Aman777]

Amen. When it is finished (brought to perfection) you are correct. First, we must get to the events at the end of the present 6th Day. Gen 1:28-31

The creation was finished and very good in His sight. Getting to perfection because we lost it at the fall is simply not what was finished then.

Then WHY did you avoid Gen 1:28-31? Is it because you CANNOT tell us WHEN, in the past, Humans had dominion or rule over mosquitoes and Angels? Is it because you CANNOT show us a time when every living creature was a vegetarian? Or is it because you CANNOT tell us WHY the perfect God would declare that it was very good BEFORE the carnage that continues to destroy all of us today, began?

God has but 6 Days/Ages (periods of labor) and the 7th is Eternity. Genesis 1:28-31 is prophecy of events which happen at the end of the present 6th Day AFTER Jesus returns to this Earth. That's God's Truth Scripturally. Want more confirmation?

 

[Aman777]

Aman:>>Your view does NOT agree with the above verses. Do you have ANY Scriptural support for your view? If so, please provide chapter and verse.

Actually, man was made right here on earth, and under the heaven here. Any other claim is baseless and weird.

And Scriptural as I have shown. Are you admitting that it's your "religion/belief", that Adam was made on the present Earth, which has NO Scriptural support? Of course you are. It's your Achilles heel since you reject what is actually written.

Don't look now, but I just defeated you Scripturally, again. It's easy.

 

[Aman777]

Genesis explicitly states that that God made Adam and Eve as man and woman.

Amen. Such a profound statement. What does that mean?

They had the apparatus for sex.

False assumption which CANNOT be supported by Scripture. Adam didn't "know" his wife until AFTER the fall. Gen 4:1

It did not magically appear after the fall!

Since man changed from the likeness of God into the likeness of Flesh, your false assumption is a "religious belief", or unsupported opinion.

They were the first humans and were not "like angels".

Amen, since they are destined to have dominion or rule over Angels. 1Co 6:3

 

[Aman777]

Ah, but which Earth? @Aman777 will be happy to tell you that this one isn't the first...

Amen. Adam's firmament, which God called Heaven, was made the on 2nd Day by God the Trinity. Genesis 1:8
The Heaven/universe which is now, was made on the 3rd Day by God the Son, called Lord God by the KJV translators, in the O.T. Genesis 2:7

The first Heaven was totally destroyed in the flood. 2 Peter 3:6
The present Heaven will be burned. 2 Peter 3:10

That is WHY dad is so easily defeated Scripturally. His view is unsupportable except in his own mind.

 

[dad]

Amen. When it is finished (brought to perfection) you are correct. First, we must get to the events at the end of the present 6th Day. Gen 1:28-31



Then WHY did you avoid Gen 1:28-31? Is it because you CANNOT tell us WHEN, in the past, Humans had dominion or rule over mosquitoes and Angels? Is it because you CANNOT show us a time when every living creature was a vegetarian? Or is it because you CANNOT tell us WHY the perfect God would declare that it was very good BEFORE the carnage that continues to destroy all of us today, began?

God has but 6 Days/Ages (periods of labor) and the 7th is Eternity. Genesis 1:28-31 is prophecy of events which happen at the end of the present 6th Day AFTER Jesus returns to this Earth. That's God's Truth Scripturally. Want more confirmation?

For the six day creation to have been finished, man did not need to rule angels and mosquitoes. I don't doubt Adam did rule nature though before the fall.

 

[dad]

Amen. Adam's firmament, which God called Heaven, was made the on 2nd Day by God the Trinity. Genesis 1:8
The Heaven/universe which is now, was made on the 3rd Day by God the Son, called Lord God by the KJV translators, in the O.T. Genesis 2:7

The first Heaven was totally destroyed in the flood. 2 Peter 3:6
The present Heaven will be burned. 2 Peter 3:10

That is WHY dad is so easily defeated Scripturally. His view is unsupportable except in his own mind.

No. Heaven was not destroyed in the flood.

 

[Aman777]

I don't doubt Adam did rule nature though before the fall.

UnScriptural. IOW, a religious belief with no Scriptural support.

 

[Aman777]

No. Heaven was not destroyed in the flood.

ll Peter 3:3-7 speaks of the "scoffers" of the last days:

2Pe 3:5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: 2Pe 3:6 Whereby the world (Grk-Kosmos) that THEN WAS, being overflowed with water, perished:(Grk-destroyed totally)
2Pe 3:7 But the heavens and the earth, WHICH ARE NOW, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

In order to be "willingly ignorant", one must first be told. I've been showing you Scriptural proof for years now, which means that you fulfill the description of the "scoffers of the last days" who question the return of Jesus to this Earth.

2Pe 3:3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, 2Pe 3:4 And saying, Where is the promise of His coming?

 

[dad]

UnScriptural. IOW, a religious belief with no Scriptural support.

The second Adam ruled nature....some say that Adam used to be able to also before the fall. Maybe put your false accusations in a pile with your fables.