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God told me to preach against sin until sin is exceedingly sinful again

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joevberry3

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Quaffer said:
What sin is it that you are preaching against? There is only 1 sin that sends man to hell. . .that would be the sin of rejecting Jesus as Savior. The other sins as listed in the word seperate us from fellowship with God. I don't believe that it means as a blood bought born again Child of God, that everytime I fall short, I'm going to hell unless I can repent before I die.

As blood washed, once was lost, but now I see saints, we are to submit to God and resist the devil. The problem is, a lot of Christians are not being taught the proper way of resistance. . . which is of course, submitting to God.
Hi Quaffer. I agree. How do we submit to God? Several ways ofcourse, one way is abstaining from sin when possible. Sin seperates us from Fellowship with God. We are to preach against anything that come between us and the father.
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joevberry3 said:
So, do you think we shouldnt preach against sin?

God Bless
Sorry joe, I added to my previous post . . .I'm notorious for that :rolleyes:

Of course we are to preach against sin. . .but who is the one's we are preaching against it to? The un-redeemed man does not care that he is sinning. The re-deemed man cares but frequently is at a loss as to how to rectify the problem. They end up saying with Paul, "For the good that I will to do, I do not do; but the evil I will not to do, that I practice. Now if I do what I will not to do, it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells in me. I find then a law, that evil is present with me, the one who wills to do good. For I delight in the law of God according to the inward man. But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members. O wretched man that I am! Who will deliver me from this body of death?" (Romans 7:19-24)

Most people stop there. They leave off the answer that Paul gave to his own question. . .Verse 25 "I thank God -- through Jesus Christ our Lord!" Through Jesus Christ I am delivered. "Draw close to God, resist the devil, and he will flee."
 
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joevberry3 said:
Hi Quaffer. I agree. How do we submit to God? Several ways ofcourse, one way is abstaining from sin when possible. Sin seperates us from Fellowship with God. We are to preach against anything that come between us and the father.
God Bless
John 3:30 "He must increase, but I must decrease." The only way for me to decrease is for Him to be filling me and pushing out all that does not belong. As He increases in me, I am able to submit to Him and as I submit, then the sinful acts decrease. The falling's short happen less frequently. I cannot do it under my own power. . .none of us can. We may stop doing sinful things in the flesh but if our heart still desires it . . .then we are not changed. Jesus said, just to lust after it was the same as doing it.
 
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Joe,

First, thank you for answering my question. However, I am curious as to why you did not answer this very same question when Godz Marine asked.

Jesus instructed us to preach the gospel (good news) and to make disciples.

Matthew 28:18-20
"And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, 'All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.' "

Mark 16:15-18
"And He said to them, 'Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature. He who believes and is baptized will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned. And these signs will follow those who believe: In My name they will cast out demons; they will speak with new tongues; they will take up serpents; and if they drink anything deadly, it will by no means hurt them; they will lay hands on the sick, and they will recover.' "

I am not saying that there is not a time and/or place for preaching against sin. After all, we are to make disciples, and at times this will entail preaching or teaching about and against sin. However, there is a lot more to making disciples such as preaching and teaching the precepts of God. As Quaffer has said, the sin of rejecting God's Son, Jesus, is the sin that will send one to hell.

As for Proverbs 28:23, if read in its context, one will see that it is not talking about preaching, but more of a one-on-one relationship with another person.




God Bless!!
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Swtsnshyn said:
Joe,

First, thank you for answering my question. However, I am curious as to why you did not answer this very same question when Godz Marine asked.

Jesus instructed us to preach the gospel (good news) and to make disciples.

Matthew 28:18-20
"And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, 'All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.' "

Mark 16:15-18
"And He said to them, 'Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature. He who believes and is baptized will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned. And these signs will follow those who believe: In My name they will cast out demons; they will speak with new tongues; they will take up serpents; and if they drink anything deadly, it will by no means hurt them; they will lay hands on the sick, and they will recover.' "

I am not saying that there is not a time and/or place for preaching against sin. After all, we are to make disciples, and at times this will entail preaching or teaching about and against sin. However, there is a lot more to making disciples such as preaching and teaching the precepts of God. As Quaffer has said, the sin of rejecting God's Son, Jesus, is the sin that will send one to hell.

As for Proverbs 28:23, if read in its context, one will see that it is not talking about preaching, but more of a one-on-one relationship with another person.




God Bless!!
Dawn
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I never said that we shouldnt preach about these other things, did i?
Im just saying sin is a very important part of the message. Also there are lots of other verses that say for us to preach against sin. Dawn--Have you ever been to a church where the Pastor never spoke out against sin?
Visit the website and see the different messages i preach on.
God Bless,
Joe
 
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“I have not shunned to declare to you the whole counsel of God. Therefore take heed to yourselves and to all the flock, among which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to shepherd the church of God which He purchased with His own blood. " Acts 20:28

“He said to me: 'Son of man, I am sending you to the children of Israel, to a rebellious nation that has rebelled against Me; they and their fathers have transgressed against Me to this very day. For they are impudent and stubborn children. I am sending you to them, and you shall say to them, ‘Thus says the Lord God.’ As for them, whether they hear or whether they refuse—for they are a rebellious house—yet they will know that a prophet has been among them." Ezekiel 2:3-5

“You shall speak My words to them, whether they hear or whether they refuse..." Ezekiel 2:7

"Then He said to me: 'Son of man, go to the house of Israel and speak with My words to them. For you are not sent to a people of unfamiliar speech and of hard language, but to the house of Israel, not to many people of unfamiliar speech and of hard language.... But the house of Israel will not listen to you, because they will not listen to Me.... Moreover He said to me: 'Son of man, receive into your heart all My words that I speak to you, and hear with your ears. And go... and speak to them and tell them, ‘Thus says the Lord God,’ whether they hear, or whether they refuse.” Ezekiel 3:7-11

“Therefore prepare yourself and arise,
And speak to them all that I command you.
Do not be dismayed before their faces,
Lest I dismay you before them....
They will fight against you, but they shall not prevail against you.
For I am with you,' says the Lord, 'to deliver you.'” Jeremiah 1:17-19

"‘Hear this now, O foolish people, without understanding,
Who have eyes and see not, and who have ears and hear not:
Do you not fear Me?’ says the Lord.
‘Will you not tremble at My presence?" Jeremiah 5:21-22
 
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joevberry3 said:
I never said that we shouldnt preach about these other things, did i?
Im just saying sin is a very important part of the message. Also there are lots of other verses that say for us to preach against sin. Dawn--Have you ever been to a church where the Pastor never spoke out against sin?
Visit the website and see the different messages i preach on.
God Bless,
Joe
Joe,

I never said nor implied that you do not preach about these or other things. I never said nor implied that preaching/teaching about and/or against sin is not important.

I do not know what the pastor of every church I have ever been to preaches. There have been some churches that I have been to only once. As to any churches that I have attended on a regular basis - no.

As to visiting your website, I am not looking for a sermon, just an answer to the questions.

Earlier I asked you to define "preaching against sin", which you did. Again, though, I am curious (and would like an answer) as to why you did not answer the exact same question when Godz Marine asked.




God Bless!!
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"The first duty of the Gospel preacher is to declare God's Law and show the nature of sin, because it will act as a schoolmaster and bring him to everlasting life which is in Jesus Christ." Martin Luther

"Before I preach love, mercy and grace, I must preach sin, Law and judgment." John Wesley

"Preach 90 percent Law and 10 percent grace." John Wesley, to a colleague.

"They will never accept grace until they tremble before a just and holy Law." Charles Spurgeon

"Evermore the Law must prepare the way for the gospel; to overlook this in instructing souls is almost certain to result in false hope, the introduction of a false standard of Christian experience, and to fill the church with false converts." Charles Finney

"The highest service to which a man may attain on earth is to preach the Law of God." John Wycliffe

"God, being a perfect God, had to give a perfect Law, and the Law was not given to save men, but to measure them." D.L. Moody



These are some great quotes from some great Preachers that I agree 100% with!

God Bless
 
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SuperBunny said:
Joe, are a calvinist preaching against sin? LOL. You are in for a real ride then. Are you? Huh?

why not? calvinists are to preach sin and grace and the whole of the good news because God works through ppl. it's just we do it less to try to convince ppl to choose than we do it to be lovingly obedient to our God who asked us to preach to every creature. where is the conflict in that???

it's our job to preach, God's job to save.
 
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Joe, I made a typo in my question. Yes, I asked if you were calvinist. I'm arminian, and having problems finding a church since I found out the truth. It seems the churches I am running into are calvinst though they say arminian. Are you an arminian then, or won't take sides or are a 3-point calvinst or 4-point calvinst? There are so few arminians on board here. I am surprised when I find any.
 
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