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I really don't think science saves brother, you seem trapped in wasting your only life.
1 Peter 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

My pastor once pointed out that there are two states of being "born again": saved and lost.

Unbelievers are "born again" by the corruptible seed of nature: that which is subject to entropy.

Believers are born again by the uncorruptible seed of Jesus Christ: that which is subject to eternity.
 
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You claim to be an Aussie but don't know what a Drop Bear is? Shame on you ;)

Yes it's a myth that we perpetuate to demonstrate ignorance. :D

Helps with debates like this :p
 
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I often wonder why Atheist waste their only life (they believe this is their only life) on forums discussing that which they see no reason nor evidence for.
Good, it helps to stretch your mind.

The thread title is "God made this".
Cute.

Read some of my posts earlier in the discussion, are you a progressive humanist trying to save the world from ignorance and irrationality.
Good heavens, no.

You have a big job to do, 7 Billion people and the majority are still God believers.
Almost makes your head explode, doesn't it.

I really don't think science saves brother, you seem trapped wasting your only life.
Yep, we only get one chance. Love those around you and make a difference.

Oh and Adam did live for 900+ years, He was the first man who lived in paradise with God himself.
Don't be silly.
Bible says, therefor I believe!
Did you arbitrarily choose which ancient religious text to bungle?

BTW, you never told me if you wear Blundstone's or not? ;)
 
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BTW, you never told me if you wear Blundstone's or not? ;)

No, barefoot most of the time, or thongs (flip flops) :D

I think you really just wasted a couple of minutes of your only life dear brother.

Do you want a picture of my feet too to take to the grave?
 
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What do you think constitutes as evidence?

ev·i·dence
ˈevədəns/
noun
  1. 1.
    the available body of facts or information indicating whether a belief or proposition is true or valid.
 
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What did the continents look like (formation) when Kangaroo's first appeared?

(To the christian, before then after the flood)

Well, it seems that kangaroos that hopped would have only evolved about 15 million years ago (source) and at that time, the world was in pretty much the same arrangement as it is today. Only a few minor differences.

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Does this explain how inorganic matter magically became life?

And DNA just went "poof" and said here is the information required to form life.

I'm still waiting for a replication of this theory in a lab.

No, it doesn't explain how life started, because evolution isn't about life starting, it's about life changing over many generations.

Please don't make that mistake again.
 
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Either that, or they were teleported (raptured) there as they stepped off the Ark, since God wanted them there.

Acts 8:39 And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing.
Acts 8:40 But Philip was found at Azotus: and passing through he preached in all the cities, till he came to Caesarea.

One has to wonder why God didn't just teleport all the wicked people into nothingness instead of the whole flood thing. Seems like making a flood just made more work for himself.
 
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No, it doesn't explain how life started, because evolution isn't about life starting, it's about life changing over many generations.

Please don't make that mistake again.

Then you know where I stand in your view. God of the gaps.

Now can you address origins?
 
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Well, it seems that kangaroos that hopped would have only evolved about 15 million years ago (source) and at that time, the world was in pretty much the same arrangement as it is today. Only a few minor differences.

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This rests of Geology and Cosmology.

Both are wrong.

Do you know much about plate tectonics?

Australia is a very interesting place for geologists.

So many sea shell in the desert.

And thats not the shape of the earth even according to Neil Degrasse Tyson.
 
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ev·i·dence
ˈevədəns/
noun
  1. 1.
    the available body of facts or information indicating whether a belief or proposition is true or valid.
Are you under the impression that anything posted is evidence?
 
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Then you know where I stand in your view. God of the gaps.

Now can you address origins?

No. Does my position collapse if I don't know everything?

In "The Ancestor's Tale", I believe, there is a hypothetical way it could have happened. Amino acids can act as a catalyst - making chemical reactions occur much faster, but without being used up. For example, you can have an amino acid that takes molecule A and molecule B and joins them to form molecule C. Without this amino acid, the reaction to make C would be very slow, but this amino acid speeds up the process. Because it takes molecules A and B to make C, we might call this amino acid Abcase.

Now, what if molecule C and Abcase are the same thing? Each time an abcase joins molecule A to molecule B, it's making more abcase. It's replicating itself. And any subtle changes could make abcase more efficient or less efficient at replicating. And thus natural selection would act, and abcase would evolve. But the starting point - a few amino acids - are easy to get from non-living materials.

So we could start with non-living materials, which form amino acids, which then form replicating molecules, which are acted on by natural selection and evolution. It is then quite plausible that as they improved themselves (the whole natural selection bit), they started using other molecules, eventually getting to RNA and then to DNA. And whallah! Life!

Hypothetical, of course, but completely plausible.
 
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This rests of Geology and Cosmology.

Both are wrong.

Do you know much about plate tectonics?

Australia is a very interesting place for geologists.

So many sea shell in the desert.

And thats not the shape of the earth even according to Neil Degrasse Tyson.

Yeah, if you are going to say that geology and cosmology are wrong, then maybe a scientific discussion isn't the place for you.
 
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Are you under the impression that anything posted is evidence?

Are you under the impression you can have the highest regard of evidence and expect me to do the same, when I have the dictionary view of evidence?
 
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