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If you acknowledge you can't prove your claims, stop trying to "prove" science wrong.

Scientific evidence for accepted theories has proven to be wrong.

Missing link?

Do you see me making any scientific claims about Fatima?

So you don't believe your Authority? Did it happen or not?
 
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My argument is that I claim the bible is truth simply presented and science interpretation of facts is wrong.
So that´s your presupposition, and the cangaroo video isn´t helping it.

Not sure how to go about discussing unsupported presuppositions.
 
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Scientific evidence for accepted theories has proven to be wrong.
evidence is neither right or wrong, evidence simply is. Interpretation of that evidence can be more or less accurate.
Missing link?
science is self correcting, that's a strength
So you don't believe your Authority? Did it happen or not?
I'm not making scientific claims about jt, nor is Fatima the subject of the thread. Again, the burden of evide ce lies witb the person making positive claims, i.e. you.
 
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So that´s your presupposition, and the cangaroo video isn´t helping it.

Not sure how to go about discussing unsupported presuppositions.

How natural selection is responsible for all life.

It cannot be, there is no origin for life proven.

It ends up in wild speculation and theory that people hold on to until proven otherwise.

Rejecting the possibility of a Creator, because there is no evidence to support a creator.

And I don't see how a fish became a kangaroo.
 
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I'm not making scientific claims about jt, nor is Fatima the subject of the thread. Again, the burden of evide ce lies witb the person making positive claims, i.e. you.

My point is that you are already irrational. So why hold on to evolution by natural selection then believe God did it.

Do you believe God created life?
 
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So that´s your presupposition, and the cangaroo video isn´t helping it.

Not sure how to go about discussing unsupported presuppositions.

I want to skip to origins, there is no evidence for inorganic matter evolving into organisms based on favorable conditions.

This is why scientists have turned their gaze to "space".

They cant prove the theory by repeatable experiments and appeal to it takes to long, but we're still right. well, %98, not good enough is it.
 
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How natural selection is responsible for all life.
I´m sure you will have a hard time finding someone who even makes that claim.



It ends up in wild speculation and theory that people hold on to ?until proven otherwise.
Even if this were true - how would this support your assertions in the OP

Rejecting the possibility of a Creator, because there is no evidence to support a creator.
Nobody´s rejecting the possibility.

And I don't see how a fish became a kangaroo.
I don´t see that either.

Now back to your assertions in the OP... if I didn´t miss anything, the argument you brought to the table for your assertions comes down to "cute animals, therefore God"?
 
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Is there anything you couldn't believe based on faith?

Technically no, hence the irrational.

However personally I only put my Faith in the Word of God. (Which you will avoid due to circular reasoning)

So, I'm very happy being irrational to those of no faith or of different faith.
 
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Technically no, hence the irrational.

However personally I only put my Faith in the Word of God. (Which you will avoid due to circular reasoning)

So, I'm very happy being irrational to those of no faith or of different faith.

So by definition faith is not a reliable pathway to truth. Do you actually care whether or not your beliefs are true? Or do you just believe it because it makes you feel good?
 
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I want to skip to origins, there is no evidence for inorganic matter evolving into organisms based on favorable conditions.
I´m not a scientist, but let´s for argument´s sake assume that this is a correct summary of the scientific results so far - now, what would that have to do with the kangaroos in your garden, and how would it suggest that your faith based assertions in the OP are correct?
 
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I´m sure you will have a hard time finding someone who even makes that claim.

The evolution of species. Without God's code (Word).

Even if this were true - how would this support your assertions in the OP

That people will look at a Kangaroo and say fish from space. (do you know what I'm getting at)

Nobody´s rejecting the possibility.

Tell me an Atheists views on a creator. (God of the gaps?)

I don´t see that either.

Origin to Kangeroo, I'm using loaded language

Now back to your assertions in the OP... if I didn´t miss anything, the argument you brought to the table for your assertions comes down to "cute animals, therefore God"?

Animals, Life, Rocks etc, therefor God. Existence there for God.
 
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I´m not a scientist, but let´s for argument´s sake assume that this is a correct summary of the scientific results so far - now, what would that have to do with the kangaroos in your garden, and how would it suggest that your faith based assertions in the OP are correct?

God of the gaps.

I assert but cannot prove.

I die and will decide before hand.

If that means irrational, then so be it.

I'm in the majority.

The problem for science is how to convince man to abandon this innate trait, to assert God did it or Made this.
 
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...but you are expecting us to be rational in this discussion you are seeking?

Rational come to the conclusion that God is innate to man's psyche. So believe in Him, put your faith in Him.

Choose wisely.

It doesn't stop you doing science.

See the Atheist chooses to see beauty in "enlightenment" that there is no evidence for God.

And is happy to be a slave to their morality trait.

Unless you're a psychopath Atheist, then watch out for the predator.
 
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God of the gaps.

I assert but cannot prove.
Ok - so there´s nothing to discuss here.
IOW, the OP is pointless.

I die and will decide before hand.

If that means irrational, then so be it.
That´s your perfect prerogatory - but as I said, I am not sure how you imagine me to discuss a subject with you when all you bring to the table is the appeal to your own faith.

I'm in the majority.
Wow.
(Btw....Weren´t you the guy who argued for a flat earth?)

The problem for science is how to convince man to abandon this innate trait, to assert God did it or Made this.
No, that´s not a problem science will occupy itself with. It´s not its field.
 
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So by definition faith is not a reliable pathway to truth. Do you actually care whether or not your beliefs are true? Or do you just believe it because it makes you feel good?

What speaks truth to how you feel as a human with an empathy trait?

To me its Love.

To others its Hate.

And to others its Love and Hate.
 
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What speaks truth to how you feel as a human with an empathy trait?

To me its Love.

To others its Hate.

And to others its Love and Hate.

Can you answer the questions instead of dodging them?
 
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Ok - so there´s nothing to discuss here.
IOW, the OP is pointless.

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That´s your perfect prerogatory - but as I said, I am not sure how you imagine me to discuss a subject with you when all you bring to the table is the appeal to your own faith.

Well I'm a human, so identify the need for the majority of humans to appeal to Faith in one form or another even when there is evidence to support otherwise.

Wow.
(Btw....Weren´t you the guy who argued for a flat earth?)

Too literal of an interpretation. I'm saying the majority of man have the empathetic trait and appeal to God (which to science is God of the gaps.)

No, that´s not a problem science will occupy itself with. It´s not its field.

It is, its in the field of human psychology.

If an atheist had a drug to keep empathy but remove an appeal to God they would shove it down our mouth.

Instead of accepting that it is the way it is.

An appeal to change,
 
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