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Right...and?

I'm guessing they were made form the dust of the earth too. I just don't see where your going with that? I mean why does god have to be a hand, or work from the sky, when he has the same image as us, and all this firmament to walk around on?

you are right, he could have come down in person :)
 
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I was actually convinced that's how he made Adam, until now anyway, lol.

What is popular belief on that?

Well if you believe the Creation account in the Bible (and by that I mean that it actually literally describe the creation), then that is the popular belief of how he made Adam. He walked with Adam in the Garden and all.
But the way he made kangaroos is by speaking them into existence (of course that is if you believe the creation account in the Bible(...))
 
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No, Natural Selection did not bring them into being.

Natural Selection is a mechanism with the evolutionary framework - so you're partially correct.


Sure.

The evidence for kangaroo evolution including their speciation from earlier diprotodontia quadrupeds somewhere around 18-25 million years ago is quite extensive. There are about 140 species of extinct predecessors that have been cataloged, and more are being discovered, with two new fossil species discovered in 2016 and published on earlier this year:

Extinct non-hopping species may be ancestors of modern kangaroo

There are gaps in the record, as is to be expected, but some sub-groups of kangaroos and wallabies provide very compelling evidence of evolution in action, including very recent (at least, from a geological standpoint) evolution:

PALAEONTOLOGY[online] | Article: Fossil Focus > Fossil Focus: The evolution of tree-kangaroos
 
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OK, I guess I always just assumed he more or less spoke it all into existence but the mass came from physical earth/dust since our bodies/animals are so much alike, and we all go back to the earth in the same way.
 
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OK, I guess I always just assumed he more or less spoke it all into existence but the mass came from physical earth/dust since our bodies/animal are so much alike, and we all bodies go back to the earth in the same way.

well some say he made the birds out of water from the sea... I'm not sure about that though...
My personal opinion (and probably that of most, even if you exclude evolutionists) is that that is a huge stretch.
 
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well some say he made the birds out of water from the sea... I'm not sure about that though...
My personal opinion (and probably that of most, even if you exclude evolutionists) is that that is a huge stretch.

Yep, not a whole lot of Scripture to back the water thing up.
 
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Good morning from Australia,

Look what was over my back fence this morning.


No, Natural Selection did not bring them into being.

God did, The Bible states this in Genesis.

Can you not see His wonderful loving work?

Discuss.
So, God created a kangaroo in your backyard?

Pity you didn't start recording earlier. A visual record of a divine creation act would have been awesome!
 
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So, God created a kangaroo in your backyard?

Pity you didn't start recording earlier. A visual record of a divine creation act would have been awesome!

Perhaps God made them approach so you could see.

They don't normally do that when a human is around :)

Mother Roo was trusting.
 
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Good morning from Australia,

Look what was over my back fence this morning.


No, Natural Selection did not bring them into being.

God did, The Bible states this in Genesis.

Can you not see His wonderful loving work?

Discuss.
Prove it.
 
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Why is it that all the examples in these argument from incredulity type claims are always cute and cuddly? Always "look at this lovely butterfly, look at this adorable quoka", never "look at this mighty plague bacillus, look at this awesome goblin shark". Just once I'd like to see someone make this argument for some organism you don't find in children's colouring books.
 
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I haven´t seen any argument or reasoning in your post (which would be required for having a discussion).

My argument is that I claim the bible is truth simply presented and science interpretation of facts is wrong.

Unless science theory supports the chronology of Genesis, science has it wrong.
 
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I'm not making the positive claim here. You made a claim, you provide support.

I cant prove it, I stand in Faith. :)

Since I'm irrational to scientists (Faith), prove primordial soup or panspermia.

And since you're Catholic prove Mary was in the sky or Fátima.

Sounds really cuddly seeing the "queen of heaven" in the sky?
 
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My argument is that I claim the bible is truth simply presented and science interpretation of facts is wrong.

Unless science theory supports the chronology of Genesis, science has it wrong.
Prove it
 
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I cant prove it, I stand in Faith. :)

Since I'm irrational to scientists (Faith), prove primordial soup or panspermia.

And since you're Catholic prove Mary was in the sky or Fátima.

Sound really cuddly seeing the "queen of heaven" in the sky?
If you acknowledge you can't prove your claims, stop trying to "prove" science wrong.

Do you see me making any scientific claims about Fatima?
 
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And since you're Catholic prove Mary was in the sky or Fátima.

Sound really cuddly seeing the "queen of heaven" in the sky?

Are we two irrational people (according to scientists) asking for proof? :D
 
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And since you're Catholic prove Mary was in the sky or Fátima.

Sound really cuddly seeing the "queen of heaven" in the sky?

Are we two irrational people (according to scientists) asking for proof? :D
I'm not making any claims about Fatima. You're the only one here making positive claims, the burden of proof is on you.
 
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