Jesus didn't give or teach the law. Jn 1:17, 15;10?, not all verses promote the law/or permit sin, I mean seriously. the fact that a certain scripture doesn't say something far from means that something isn't true. That doesn't even amount to a weak argument.
Genesis 1:1 doesn't say I'm not allowed to commit murder either, but that doesn't make it a fact.
Where did bugkiller cop out? Is asking and expecting you to make use of the provisions of the forum format asking to much? Maybe you should have only one conversation going on at a time. Asking because you can't remember or don't know how to work the forum is absurd.I remember now, you're the person who constantly makes claims but when asked to back them up, you cop out every time, hence I can't take much of anything you say seriously.
Thanks for your input, whatever it was?
The argument (post) is and was already a matter of record.Thanks, I guess I did recall correctly in my last post.
Some people still haven't caught on the the obvious fact they need to actually have and argument before they start one or make unfounded accusations, and backing out everytime just makes them look like something I cannot say here on the boards.
Legalistic is defined as: adhering excessively to law or formula.First, what exactly do the laws you mention entail? Secondly define legalistic and show me in the bible where that is mentioned as a problem. If you refuse to, I'll assume yet another cop out like here:
No discussing religious sects is fruitless. My relationship isn't with some religious sect. My relationship is with God and His awesome Son, Jesus.That's a clear excuse. I've been trying to get that from you from the word go and you refuse.
Cop out.
You see examples of people keeping it all throughout the bible. The only thing that we HAVE to do is refrain from work. If you want to do literally anything else, you can. Go for a hike? Cool. Read the bible? Cool. Eat? Cool. Watch some movies? Cool. There's no expectation aside from refraining from workand resting. So I'm not sure what you mean.Probably kept your truncated version.
As I said, nowhere in scripture are any people apart from Israel called His children, sheep, wheat, chosen, elect, etc. Only Israel. Then forward to new Jerusalem (the city those saved will live in) there's only 12 gates. One gate for each tribe of Israel. There's no gate for the church. The church comes from ekklesia, which just means assembly or gathering. Israel and the church are the same thing.Thanks for your explanation. My take is that what you say is there's no salvation for anyone outside of Israel. That position doesn't coincide with the Gospel of John, the command at the end of Matthew, or the historical facts found in Acts.
Yeah this wasn't talking about you at all. I was talking about bug killer. He just came from nowhere and was criticizing me and the other poster without giving any explanation about what he was referring to. And considering neither of us was talking to him it added to the confusion.Maybe you don't know what the little back button is in a quoted post. You guys seem to have to many conversation going on on to recall anything. I don't find it necessary to repeat what you said to respond. If you can't figure out what I'm saying ask. That doesn't include you can't remember.
Jesus didn't give or teach the law. Jn 1:17, 15;10
Where did bugkiller cop out? Is asking and expecting you to make use of the provisions of the forum format asking to much? Maybe you should have only one conversation going on at a time. Asking because you can't remember or don't know how to work the forum is absurd.
The argument (post) is and was already a matter of record.
Legalistic is defined as: adhering excessively to law or formula.
You really want me to believe you have no idea what law is being talked about. Get real.
No discussing religious sects is fruitless. My relationship isn't with some religious sect. My relationship is with God and His awesome Son, Jesus.
I do see lots of religion being promoted.
What do you mean? A servant does do things you don't want done yes, but on the sabbath all is to rest. Beasts of burdens (oxen plowing the field, are to rest and eat). Your servants, who normally would do your will, are to rest and relax. Spend time with their families if they have one, or with you if they prefer and you allow it.Guessing you mean only on the sabbaths or feast days.
You did say everything was to rest.
What did a beast of burden do? This refers to more than one kind of animal and conveyance (cart/wagon).
You did say a servant does things you want done. I assume that includes things you can't do. Is that a reasonable assumption? I'm positive you did. This is of interest to me.
Well because, the "new" covenant isn't really new, it's renewed. It's got a few things that are in fact different about it, as Paul talks about, but a lot of it still remains the same.Also wondering why obedience to a defunct covenant is so important. You say it's because you love God. That's great. Assume you mean to include Jesus.
What does new covenant mean to you? Do we need to discuss the word "new?" I have a thread asking about it.
In my case, the little back button didn't help. Again, I was talking to bugkiller. Even with the back button, it still didn't give enough context to know what he was talking about though, because he came out of nowhere and the question he asked didn't mesh with the context of the back button.Maybe you don't know what the little back button is in a quoted post. You guys seem to have to many conversation going on on to recall anything. I don't find it necessary to repeat what you said to respond. If you can't figure out what I'm saying ask. That doesn't include you can't remember.
No discussing religious sects is fruitless. My relationship isn't with some religious sect. My relationship is with God and His awesome Son, Jesus.
I do see lots of religion being promoted.
I didn't say that what your dad did to you wouldn't still "affect" you ... I'm saying it isn't a "curse" from God. I know people who were terribly abused by their parents, and yes, it does affect them no matter how long ago it happened. I believe the devil wants you to continue thinking God cursed you. He doesn't want you to know ... and for sure not believe ... that God is the source of healing!I was murdered by discouragement about everything from my dad. At my age it still effects me.
I agree with Devin here. Your post seems rather odd.
I remembered you while I was looking at articles about Candida. As I remember the events leading up to that discovery, I actually had taken a course of antibiotics for a serious viral infection only months earlier. It seems that this could have contributed to a Candida overgrowth, and as I remember the symptoms of fragrance allergy and how it seemed to correspond with the body's reaction to certain foods (eg: wheat, potatoes, corn etc), it did only become a problem for me soon after taking those antibiotics. Candida is a systemic infection, although the more major problem seems to be that it causes a "leaky gut", that then all kinds of other infections can become systemic, some bacteria or yeasts particularly targeting the throat and nasal.Thank you for your response. I will certainly look at adrenal fatigue as some of the symptoms do seem to fit. I was actually diagnosed as having fibromyalgia as a result of my childhood but I have never been totally satisfied it is any more than a "best guess" by doctors. This has some key but small differences that means it may be a better fit to my symptoms. I'll look into it.
Is this a public venue? Aren't the posts here open to everyone? Why would anyone have to say you said this (by quote) to have a valid post? There are two ways to have a two party exchange here - formal debate and the PM feature. When I post I generally am consistent in idea. I'm known for being anti old covenant. Some say that I'm antinomian meaning I'm against God's law the 10 Cs. Nothing could be further from the truth. I'm a 100% new covenant believer in my relationship with God and His Son Jesus.Where did bugkiller cop out? Is asking and expecting you to make use of the provisions of the forum format asking to much? Maybe you should have only one conversation going on at a time. Asking because you can't remember or don't know how to work the forum is absurd.
Demean? Is that really the intent or is that what you want the intent to be for some reason?Asking someone who makes an accusation with no backing/explanation why to elaborate is odd?
You are seeing what you want to see, and in this care reason to demean when there is simply nothing there.
In-other-words you're just blabbing. For what may I ask?I for some reason quoted Hosea 14, don't know why. It is what it is though. The entire book of Hosea is only talking to the house of Israel though was my point, as sheep said Hosea 2 was talking about people who aren't Israel being saved.
What verses permit sin??, not all verses promote the law/or permit sin, I mean seriously. the fact that a certain scripture doesn't say something far from means that something isn't true. That doesn't even amount to a weak argument.
Genesis 1:1 doesn't say I'm not allowed to commit murder either, but that doesn't make it a fact.
Where do you remember this from? Didn't you just prove context of an individual by previous posts and not just the last one?I remember now, you're the person who constantly makes claims but when asked to back them up, you cop out every time, hence I can't take much of anything you say seriously.
Thanks for your input, whatever it was?
What laws did I mention?First, what exactly do the laws you mention entail? Secondly define legalistic and show me in the bible where that is mentioned as a problem. If you refuse to, I'll assume yet another cop out like here:
No refusing to discuss religious institutions isn't a cop out. If you want to deal with a particular doctrine of some organization, state it. I do note you don't identify with a religious group. Why, since you want to discuss them?That's a clear excuse. I've been trying to get that from you from the word go and you refuse.
Cop out.
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