Georgia Gov. Kemp Calls For ‘Signature Audit’ After Ballot Stuffing Video Released

[cow451]

There's plenty of "kicking and screaming"...but gradually, gradually, the facts are coming out.

And how did the Democrats get the Republicans officials like Governor Kemp to conspire to upend the Presidency of Donald Trump. Please explain how the Democrats accomplished that. If you can.

 

[Mountainmanbob]

Seems like it's time for a re-vote.
M

 

[Pommer]

Seems like it's time for a re-vote.
M

Is there anything “on the books” that would allow for such to occur?

 

[GDL]

You think Trump’s evangelical will have hard time switching position on COVID because that might be too hypocritical ?

I guess you wrote this before you read my last couple of sentences and then neglected to read them.

 

[cow451]

Where'd the bold title come from?

Love the "Facts" portion. Sounds like some potential fact, some hearsay, some opinion, some excuse.

Also like how the leadership wonders who's going to pay for this stuff. Guess it's cheaper to dodge allegations, watch potential reactions, pay for police & court activities, and let insurance companies handle any destruction. What a mess.

Republican leaders... leadership in Georgia is Republican...

 

[cow451]

Which puts responsibility squarely on the Georgia legislature.

Republican controlled legislature.

 

[GDL]

November 13th?

That case had its wheels fall off.
And again, yesterday...
Pennsylvania Supreme Court turns down Kelly, again, in election lawsuit

Thanks for pointing out the 11/13 date. I posted it just to provide info re: what the strategy seems to be. Wheels falling off at the state level is not the end game. In fact it seems clear the USSC has been the likely anticipated end game.

After not being able to read or find info about the WSJ article linked by SimplyMe above, I just went straight to Giuliani and see what he says he's doing. His approach re: these legislatures sessions is within the first 10 min if interested. No matter what anyone thinks of it, it's the approach being taken:

The ANSWER Exists In CONSTITUTION | Rudy Giuliani | Ep. 91 - YouTube

Two points

Just flagging you if any interest.

 

[GDL]

Republican leaders... leadership in Georgia is Republican...

Correct.

 

[cow451]

Thanks for pointing out the 11/13 date. I posted it just to provide info re: what the strategy seems to be. Wheels falling off at the state level is not the end game. In fact it seems clear the USSC has been the likely anticipated end game.

After not being able to read or find info about the WSJ article linked by SimplyMe above, I just went straight to Giuliani and see what he says he's doing. His approach re: these legislatures sessions is within the first 10 min if interested. No matter what anyone thinks of it, it's the approach being taken:

The ANSWER Exists In CONSTITUTION | Rudy Giuliani | Ep. 91 - YouTube

Every Trump lawyer has a strategy until he/she goes 0-40 or the donors wise up or they decide to hang on to the law license.

 

[cow451]

Correct.

Governor Kemp and multiple elected and appointed officials are on the take? Otherwise there is no other explanation for having helped the Democrats with the election fraud in Georgia.

 

[GDL]

Every Trump lawyer has a strategy until he/she goes 0-40 or the donors wise up or they decide to hang on to the law license.

True - or should be - for any lawyer and for donors, I guess. Giuliani has only filed 3 or 4 (?) by now. The 39-40 number is not his.

 

[GDL]

Governor Kemp and multiple elected and appointed officials are on the take? Otherwise there is no other explanation for having helped the Democrats with the election fraud in Georgia.

Yes, a logical reasoning. It's over when it's over, though. Personally, I'm more interested in understanding the legal theories being pursued, some of the testimonies under oath (affidavits at this point), some of the theoretical analysis of numbers, some of the IT issues, and seeing the mindsets & attitudes of some of the state legislators when they see and hear of the incompetence and alleged fraud within their state.

I'm aware of the allegations against the red leaderships, but not paying much attention. It all plays our, or not.

 

[cow451]

Yes, a logical reasoning. It's over when it's over, though. Personally, I'm more interested in understanding the legal theories being pursued, some of the testimonies under oath (affidavits at this point), some of the theoretical analysis of numbers, some of the IT issues, and seeing the mindsets & attitudes of some of the state legislators when they see and hear of the incompetence and alleged fraud within their state.

I'm aware of the allegations against the red leaderships, but not paying much attention. It all plays our, or not.

Nice moonwalking...

 

[Hans Blaster]

The actual legal remedy in such matters is to remove the number of defective ballots from the appropriate stack of ballots. For example, if 50,000 absentee ballots processed over a certain time span are known to be defective, then 50,000 ballots will be removed from the ballots processed during that time. Obviously, it's not a perfect remedy as it doesn't correct the entire extent of the irregularity but it can make a difference in close elections. If the remedy only corrected 30% of the example's irregularity that would cause a vote swing of 15,000 votes ... and no one could claim to be dis-enfranchised.

(Knowing that the 50,000 number was an example and assuming a post-facto removal of a similar number of ballots is needed, even if they can't be tied to those casting them.):

Who are these voters that their actions have caused their ballots to be defective and should therefore be removed and not counted?

 

[GDL]

Nice moonwalking...

Thanks. No reason to think I can do anything about it, so just an observer watching the case here & there & what crazy or astute comments are being made. Also, gave up the crystal-ball stuff long ago, so it goes wherever it goes...

Not sure I like Rudi's quote you have posted. Back to the issue of a republic vs. a democracy.

 

[cow451]

Thanks. No reason to think I can do anything about it, so just an observer watching the case here & there & what crazy or astute comments are being made. Also, gave up the crystal-ball stuff long ago, so it goes wherever it goes...

Not sure I like Rudi's quote you have posted. Back to the issue of a republic vs. a democracy.

What? Rudy is a paragon of legal virtue and mental stability. His legal mind is so huge that sometimes the intellectual juices cannot be contained.

 

[GDL]

What? Rudy is a paragon of legal virtue and mental stability. His legal mind is so huge that sometimes the intellectual juices cannot be contained.

Guess so.

 

[cow451]

Guess so.

Know so!

 

[NotreDame]

No. I'm simply saying that the legislatures are obviously part of a legal strategy or all we'd be seeing is lawsuits.

Some legal analysts I've read have pointed out that constitutionally, the ones in charge of such election matters are the legislatures and the opinion is that some judges and state government officials have been making decisions re: elections that are constitutionally not within their authority.

I'd suppose how this would get to the Supreme Court is via the usual process, but all of what comes before the SC it seems may be a bit more complex and the legal team may well be covering bases with a view to a more complete case at the high court. Maybe not. If nothing else, the matters being presented to the legislatures seem constitutionally where such things should go or should have gone first.

some judges and state government officials have been making decisions re: elections that are constitutionally not within their authority.

This is the sweeping allegation, sure, but such an allegation has only manifested itself as having merit in one state, Pennsylvania. Justice Alito ordered a certain number of ballots to be sequestered from others, the number being too small to change the outcome in Pennsylvania, because those ballots may have been cast in a manner inconsistent with state law. Otherwise, I’m not aware of any state or federal lawsuit where what you say has been alleged and persuasive before a tribunal.

If nothing else, the matters being presented to the legislatures seem constitutionally where such things should go or should have gone first.

The issue is whether a legislature can, post election and certification, act contrary to its own valid election laws for appointing electors and choose electors inconsistent with the existing law. My answer is no, this would violate due process.

 

[Always in His Presence]

Governor Kemp has hit upon the only satisfactory way of debunking the video.

Agreed, it is the only satisfactory way to debunk it. Or support it. Either way, the truth will be established.