Genesis 6 Giants

[ViaCrucis]

Going back to the highly advanced civilizations before the Flood, beings descended upon the Earth from the Fourth Dimension to have sexual relations with human women, which produced the hybrid race of the Nephilim. Human beings, who originally inhabited planet Earth as it was intended, were immortal and lived in Paradise. They were created from the substance of the Earth based on original-source programming which was imbedded in their DNA by the Infinite Personal Living God the Universe.

However, the first man and woman chose to shatter their perfect world. Then they allowed their DNA code to be deconstructed by Fourth Dimensional energies and began to experience a brand new reality… death. Additionally, they opened a portal into the Fourth Dimension which allowed the sons of God to enter the physical world. These sons of God, the B’nai Elohim, began mating with human women and producing a race of god men called the Nephilim. This interbreeding re-programmed the DNA code of Mankind and a kind of DNA War began.

The cosmic war between God and Lucifer that started in the Fourth Dimension was now being fought on Earth. The Flood of Noah was a pre-emptive strike by God to destroy the reprogrammed DNA code. But the sons of God returned to the Earth and the sexual relations with human women began again, bringing the return of the Nephilim, who currently walk among us, and the DNA war continues.

The Transhumanist movement is actively using human, Nephilim, and animal genes to produce a race of god men. This is what the Nazi scientists were doing in their laboratories as they combined genetic science with the intelligence and energy that they were transferring from the Fourth Dimension through the Vril force.

This “Great DNA War” is part of the greater war between Lucifer and God. Lucifer is attempting to create the New Man. God has created new men and women through the supernatural power of Christ. These men and women are regenerated, not by a Vril force, but the Spirit of God.

As these men and women are regenerated by the Spirit of God they are transformed into new creations. As such they will be resurrected from the dead and moved into the dimension where Heaven exists. In Heaven they will be given glorified and perfect bodies, along with a vast array of supernatural powers. They will not be passive creatures, because they will reign with Christ forever in the Kingdom of God.
(I took this from an article by Paul McGuire, because he explains it so well)

Was that before or after Luke blew up the Death Star?

-CryptoLutheran

 

[BluhdoftheLamb]

In other words, Jude knew Enoch was Scripture and quoted it. The Ethiopian Orthodox Church have it in their canon.

Jesus quoted Enoch as well.

 

[yeshuasavedme]

I think Enoch is for the last days, just as Enoch said in his opening book.
This is the time it is for, worldwide, though it was never lost and was kept tucked away in the Ethiopian Bible and in the DSS...but here we are today, and it is for this time, and esp for after the Church is removed from the midst of the world, methinks.

 

[BluhdoftheLamb]

Wow, can you just imagine the unbelievers and un-Churched trying to make sense out of Enoch?!? I see them slaughter simple Biblical meaning regularly, as y'all probably do too.

Was that before or after Luke blew up the Death Star?

-CryptoLutheran

Now you can no longer be a secret Lutheran, seeing as you have let the cat out of the bag. Bad Lutheran - bad!!

 

[deetwang]

STOP READING THE BOOK OF ENOCH!!!
The Book of Enoch is an ancient Jewish religious work, traditionally ascribed to Enoch, the great-grandfather of Noah. It is not part of the biblical canon as used by Jews, apart from Beta Israel.The older sections (mainly in the Book of the Watchers) are estimated to date from about 300 BC, and the latest part (Book of Parables) probably was composed at the end of the 1st century BC. So there is no way that one person could have written what we now call the book of Enoch.
What we now have came from Aramaic fragments from the Dead Sea Scrolls and a few Greek and Latin fragments.

So it was rightfully rejected in the canon of Scripture due to authorship and language inconsistencies. The other apocryphal books were rejected also, for various reasons such as some included Jewish fiction, and there were other doubts as to their authenticity. Paul warns in Titus 1:13-14 "Therefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith; not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth."

 

[ebedmelech]

You allow other saints the latitude to the weight they give to extra-biblical writings.

Always remember the canon of scripture had very strict and weighty guidelines that determined whether a book made it into the canon.

One of the books that had the hardest time being included into the canon was Revelation.

There are other works mentioned in the scripture that have never been seen or found...but may be found.

As a rule, most believers hold that it was God's providence by the Holy spirit that gave the canon...count me among them.

Just something to think about...

 

[deetwang]

I agree about God's providence in the canon, and also His providence in the translation of the King James Version, that's my version! God just speaks to me through it more than other versions, and also it is easier to memorize since early on in my walk that's what I heard preached from. Now you hear many versions and I have to check "Is that what it says?" and check with my KJV.

I think the "Book of the Watchers" (beginning of Enoch, older) would be more likely to be true than the (end of Enoch) "Book of the Parables", because Watchers is dated 400 years before Parables.

 

[freezerman2000]

Deetwang,What we have now is a compilation of books that were deemed to be canon by men,(some no doubt having political motives).

The Christian Canon

When someone tells me NOT to read apocryphal scripture,that makes me WANT to read them..which I am doing now.I am in the midst of "Bel and the Dragon"-another rendering of Daniel in the Lions Den.

 

[yeshuasavedme]

STOP READING THE BOOK OF ENOCH!!!

Already read it, believe it, and live it. Jesus is the Son of Man in heaven seen by Enoch, and the section on the Son of Man is original to Enoch the prophet, the seventh from Adam.
Though it is not yet discovered in the DSS scrolls -but the rest is- it is in the Ethiopian Orthodox canon list of accepted sacred writings and has always been there, because they were Jews who had it in Ethiopia and who never banned it when they received the Gospel.

However: the Son of Man in heaven who was seen by Enoch, with God, hidden in God, and who was God the Word and who was to come revelation is corroborated by the rest of Enoch, and also by the LORD Himself, who quoted from it and preached His Gospel from it and who called it "Scripture".

 

[yeshuasavedme]

You allow other saints the latitude to the weight they give to extra-biblical writings.

Always remember the canon of scripture had very strict and weighty guidelines that determined whether a book made it into the canon.

One of the books that had the hardest time being included into the canon was Revelation.

There are other works mentioned in the scripture that have never been seen or found...but may be found.

As a rule, most believers hold that it was God's providence by the Holy spirit that gave the canon...count me among them.

Just something to think about...

Really? Why did the Holy Spirit wait for four centuries after the Church was established to reveal His mind about "lists" called "Canon", and why did the Holy Spirit not get the message to all His servants in all the Church age, and why did the Holy Spirit change His mind, flip/flopping, when the ArchBishop of Canterbury cursed the second canon reading in Churches more than two centuries after the Archbishop of Canterbury of 1611 cursed those who did not read it in Churches?
"A Canon to every Church", but only by consensus of fallible men, who play politics of power, and who play "Holy Spirit" over the minds and consciences of men.

 

[deetwang]

Here are the books that were rejected in the Canon and the reasons why each was rejected. Personally I believe Matthew 2:3 "Heaven and earth shall pass away but My words shall not pass away". God Himself will preserve his word! Psalm 11:7-8 "The works of his hands are verity and judgment; all his commandments are sure. They stand fast for ever and ever, and are done in truth and uprightness."

Notice that the book of Enoch was not even considered to be accepted. I researched this just for you...

The book of Jubilees
Epistle of Barnabas
Shepherd of Hermas
Paul's Epistle to the Laodiceans
1 Clement
2 Clement
Preaching of Peter
Apocalypse of Peter
Gospel According to the Egyptians
Gospel According to the Hebrews

The inclusion of some of these books in ancient Bibles and the fact that were read in early churches does not mean they were considered inspired. Take a look at your own Bible. There are Bible aids, maps, articles added throughout. 1 Clement and Shepherd of Hermas and the Epistle of Barnabas were regarded as some of the most important documents by the earliest Christians and no doubt, they did influence the early church somewhat.

Book of Jubilees

Book of Jubilees was written in about 150 BC. The oldest and most complete manuscript was among the Dead Sea Scrolls. Since the book claims an angel revealed the message to Moses on Mt. Sinai, it is obvious why every church in the world, except for the Ethiopian Orthodox Church, rejects it as pseudepigraphal and a forgery. The Book of Jubilees is within the official canon of the Orthodox Church (Ethiopian), but is called the "Book of Division". But still, it is a historical document that circulated among the Essenes in about 150 BC, so while Moses never saw it, we can learn something about the beliefs of that era.

Epistle of Barnabas:

Rejected because its late date, (90-130 AD.) strongly argues it could not be the one mentioned in Acts because he would have been long dead.
It also employs the highly questionable system of "numerology".

Shepherd of Hermas:

Was widely read in early churches.

Paul's Epistle to the Laodiceans:

This book was likely composed in response to Colossians 4:16 "When this letter (Colossians) is read among you, have it also read in the church of the Laodiceans; and you, for your part read my letter that is coming from Laodicea."
The book appears to be a compilation of materials from Paul's other letters.
The book contains no unusual or remarkable materials or unique ideas. This argues that it was a "safe bet" forgery.

1 Clement:

Clement is believed to be a young, personal co-worker with Apostle Peter.
It is likely that 1 Clement, was uninspired because he refers to the mythical phoenix as an actual living creature!

2 Clement:

This book is widely rejected as being a forgery that was tying to build on 1 Clement.
It is seen as being written much later than 1 Clement.

Preaching of Peter:

The book was rejected as a forgery because of its late date.

Apocalypse of Peter:

The book was rejected as a forgery because of its late date. Metzger puts the date at about 125 - 150 AD. (The Canon of the New Testament, Bruce Manning Metzger, 1987, p 184)
Some have noted that the book has similarities in style with the much later "Dante's Inferno" (1300 AD)

Gospel According to the Egyptians:

Metzger puts the date at about 150 AD. (The Canon of the New Testament, Bruce Manning Metzger, 1987, p 169)
It was accepted only in Egypt.
It has heretical doctrinal slant of the Gnostic Encratites. "Literally, "abstainers" or "persons who practised continency", because they refrained from the use of wine, animal food, and marriage." (New Advent Catholic Enyclopedia, Encratites)

Gospel According to the Hebrews:

The date of the book is difficult to know but may be as early as the first century.
The book has been forever lost: "The Gospel according to the Hebrews" was a work of early Christian literature to which reference is frequently made by the church Fathers in the first five centuries, and of which some twenty or more fragments, preserved in their writings, have come down to us. The book itself has long disappeared."
This book was never considered canonical.

 

[freezerman2000]

About Jubilees,we can't have TWO Creation accounts,now can we?
One is divisive enough!
I did some homework too..Jubilees - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[yeshuasavedme]

Here are the books that were rejected in the Canon and the reasons why each was rejected.l.

...
Whose canon? Your history list is limited and not correct.
Bible: Whose Canon? Which Bible?

The smallest Bible is claimed by the Samaritans, who recognize only the first five books of the Bible (the Pentateuch).
The largest Bible is that of the Ethiopian Orthodox church, which has 81 books.

The DSS scroll manuscripts are the "Bible" of the Essenes, and they include Enoch and Jubilees.

Jubilees is the actual fable book that we are warned about, and it does not corroborate with Enoch, Jasher, the Tenach, the testaments of the Patriarchs discovered in the DSS or the NT.
Jubilees is included however, in many Jews of old Bible. Even Peter believed it, but Paul did not. Jesus corrected Peter's understanding that was made a bit off by Jubilees when he gave Peter the vision of the unclean foods let down in the sheet.

 

[ebedmelech]

Really? Why did the Holy Spirit wait for four centuries after the Church was established to reveal His mind about "lists" called "Canon", and why did the Holy Spirit not get the message to all His servants in all the Church age, and why did the Holy Spirit change His mind, flip/flopping, when the ArchBishop of Canterbury cursed the second canon reading in Churches more than two centuries after the Archbishop of Canterbury of 1611 cursed those who did not read it in Churches?
"A Canon to every Church", but only by consensus of fallible men, who play politics of power, and who play "Holy Spirit" over the minds and consciences of men.

You'll have to ask God about that. Some things we just don't know and won't know until we're able to ask the source.

Fallible men wrote the scriptures...so to argue along those lines you could dismiss all of the scripture.

God uses us to preach the gospel...and we're fallible too...think about what you're saying.

Some things are a matter of faith.

 

[mog144]

Here are the books that were rejected in the Canon and the reasons why each was rejected. Personally I believe Matthew 2:3 "Heaven and earth shall pass away but My words shall not pass away". God Himself will preserve his word! Psalm 11:7-8 "The works of his hands are verity and judgment; all his commandments are sure. They stand fast for ever and ever, and are done in truth and uprightness."

Notice that the book of Enoch was not even considered to be accepted. I researched this just for you...

The book of Jubilees
Epistle of Barnabas
Shepherd of Hermas
Paul's Epistle to the Laodiceans
1 Clement
2 Clement
Preaching of Peter
Apocalypse of Peter
Gospel According to the Egyptians
Gospel According to the Hebrews

The inclusion of some of these books in ancient Bibles and the fact that were read in early churches does not mean they were considered inspired. Take a look at your own Bible. There are Bible aids, maps, articles added throughout. 1 Clement and Shepherd of Hermas and the Epistle of Barnabas were regarded as some of the most important documents by the earliest Christians and no doubt, they did influence the early church somewhat.

Book of Jubilees

Book of Jubilees was written in about 150 BC. The oldest and most complete manuscript was among the Dead Sea Scrolls. Since the book claims an angel revealed the message to Moses on Mt. Sinai, it is obvious why every church in the world, except for the Ethiopian Orthodox Church, rejects it as pseudepigraphal and a forgery. The Book of Jubilees is within the official canon of the Orthodox Church (Ethiopian), but is called the "Book of Division". But still, it is a historical document that circulated among the Essenes in about 150 BC, so while Moses never saw it, we can learn something about the beliefs of that era.

Epistle of Barnabas:

Rejected because its late date, (90-130 AD.) strongly argues it could not be the one mentioned in Acts because he would have been long dead.
It also employs the highly questionable system of "numerology".

Shepherd of Hermas:

Was widely read in early churches.

Paul's Epistle to the Laodiceans:

This book was likely composed in response to Colossians 4:16 "When this letter (Colossians) is read among you, have it also read in the church of the Laodiceans; and you, for your part read my letter that is coming from Laodicea."
The book appears to be a compilation of materials from Paul's other letters.
The book contains no unusual or remarkable materials or unique ideas. This argues that it was a "safe bet" forgery.

1 Clement:

Clement is believed to be a young, personal co-worker with Apostle Peter.
It is likely that 1 Clement, was uninspired because he refers to the mythical phoenix as an actual living creature!

2 Clement:

This book is widely rejected as being a forgery that was tying to build on 1 Clement.
It is seen as being written much later than 1 Clement.

Preaching of Peter:

The book was rejected as a forgery because of its late date.

Apocalypse of Peter:

The book was rejected as a forgery because of its late date. Metzger puts the date at about 125 - 150 AD. (The Canon of the New Testament, Bruce Manning Metzger, 1987, p 184)
Some have noted that the book has similarities in style with the much later "Dante's Inferno" (1300 AD)

Gospel According to the Egyptians:

Metzger puts the date at about 150 AD. (The Canon of the New Testament, Bruce Manning Metzger, 1987, p 169)
It was accepted only in Egypt.
It has heretical doctrinal slant of the Gnostic Encratites. "Literally, "abstainers" or "persons who practised continency", because they refrained from the use of wine, animal food, and marriage." (New Advent Catholic Enyclopedia, Encratites)

Gospel According to the Hebrews:

The date of the book is difficult to know but may be as early as the first century.
The book has been forever lost: "The Gospel according to the Hebrews" was a work of early Christian literature to which reference is frequently made by the church Fathers in the first five centuries, and of which some twenty or more fragments, preserved in their writings, have come down to us. The book itself has long disappeared."
This book was never considered canonical.

Yes, these were rejected by the NWO that came in 1848., albeit the Truth has always been rejected by the world. The Gutenberg Bible, a 77 book Canon came to the New World in 1847 just before the NWO but it was put under glass and was not translated into English and circulated, instead the Protestant Bible of 66 books was printed and circulated in the Printing Press age.

These Gospels were rejected because they go against the NWO where the woman is exalted. This changed the Times and Law of God and resulting in the setting up of the abomination that IS CAUSING desolation's, even this day.

 

[yeshuasavedme]

You'll have to ask God about that. Some things we just don't know and won't know until we're able to ask the source.

Fallible men wrote the scriptures...so to argue along those lines you could dismiss all of the scripture.

God uses us to preach the gospel...and we're fallible too...think about what you're saying.

Some things are a matter of faith.

God is not the Author of confusion!
Man has no universal consensus on Canon lists.
God has never changed His mind and He certainly is not playing politics of power in His Church: and He MOST CERTAINLY did not wait four hundred years to decide what lists His Church should keep as "Sacred Scripture".
The proof of that is that there has never, ever been consensus of what is "canon" in all the Church age.
Since the beginning of the Church on, men have changed their minds and flip flopped, and not agreed with other men, and so, there are different canons in different times for different Christian Churches -and for Jews, too, as the Pharisees, Sadducees, and Essenes/DSS Bibles all agree.
And Martyn Luther certainly never got the message of consensus, either!

 

[ebedmelech]

God is not the Author of confusion!
Man has no universal consensus on Canon lists.
God has never changed His mind and He certainly is not playing politics of power in His Church: and He MOST CERTAINLY did not wait four hundred years to decide what lists His Church should keep as "Sacred Scripture".
The proof of that is that there has never, ever been consensus of what is "canon" in all the Church age.
Since the beginning of the Church on, men have changed their minds and flip flopped, and not agreed with other men, and so, there are different canons in different times for different Christian Churches -and for Jews, too, as the Pharisees, Sadducees, and Essenes/DSS Bibles all agree.
And Martyn Luther certainly never got the message of consensus, either!

You're making no point. God is not the author of confusion...but in man's confusion He will certainly bring His purpose about.

See it as you wish...but I'm certain there are 66 books of sacred scripture.

When your name is God...I might listen...

An excellent work on the scriptures I have in my Christian library is "The Canon of Scripture" by F. F. Bruce.

The copy I have is copyright 1971 and looks like this:

Quite informative too...

 

[ViaCrucis]

You're making no point. God is not the author of confusion...but in man's confusion He will certainly bring His purpose about.

See it as you wish...but I'm certain there are 66 books of sacred scripture.

When your name is God...I might listen...

66, 73, or 75--I'm not particularly picky on that point. There are legitimate disagreements over the status of the Deuterocanonicals.

But to willy-nilly change the Canon simply over matters of personal preference is unjustified. Which is why Luther ultimately didn't remove Hebrews, James, Jude, and the Apocalypse (though he personally had issues with them); and it's why we don't add Enoch or a medieval midrash calling itself Jasher.

There are lots of books that have a much greater pedigree than Enoch in having a potential place in the Canon--1 Clement, Barnabas, the Didache, the Shepherd--and they should be considered LONG before Enoch. "Jasher" doesn't even get consideration, it's medieval midrash; it has less chance of being put into the Canon than St. Thomas Aquinas' Summa Theologica.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

I like to read. So, I let no one dictate to me what I should or should not read. Faith in God and the leading of the Holy Spirit will guide me into all Truth. There are many mysteries that have unraveled for my edification by reading material that ,if not scripture, can be called history. The Bible does not tell us where Hannukah comes from. In fact , as far as I know, it is not even mentioned. Where do you learn about the Maccabees, or Masada? You learn it from these non canonical books.

 

[Bethwhite]

I like to read. So, I let no one dictate to me what I should or should not read. Faith in God and the leading of the Holy Spirit will guide me into all Truth. There are many mysteries that have unraveled for my edification by reading material that ,if not scripture, can be called history. The Bible does not tell us where Hannukah comes from. In fact , as far as I know, it is not even mentioned. Where do you learn about the Maccabees, or Masada? You learn it from these non canonical books.

Hanukkah = Haggai 2

Twenty-forth day of the ninth month, foundation of Temple laid.

It is the 1335th day from Daniel 12.