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catlover
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Maybe, people are objecting to some of censorship and heavyhandedness on part of some people...
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HoneyDew
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catlover said:
LOL True
Also, out of death comes life! Sometimes a thing has got to heal. Or like a phoenix rising out of the ashes ...
Etc., etc.
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[/B]HoneyDew I hope the dusts clears and this board can be up and going nicely. I sometimes seriously consider converting to Adventism. I would like to get a good dialogue going here about beliefs etc.. I notice they, Adventists,are very active in the disaster assistance in Louisianna and they don't seem to fear medical advances.
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catlover said:
They don't, and I love that. I remember years ago when they transplanted a baboon's heart in Baby Fae, allowing her to live for 21 more days. I was very proud. I am all for advancement in scientific and religious arenas. What I mean is, we can take those giant steps in medicine, but we must also take them in other disciplines -- theology being one of them. Keep moving forward in knowledge and truth.
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catlover said:
catlover,
I sincerely hope you do continue to consider converting to Adventism. Do not let what happened here sway your thinking on it.
We can take being "bashed" usually better than most. I've been called everything in the book, including a cult.
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I will send you a pm with the address of another site where you may be able to learn even more. The nice thing is that no one pressures you. We are there to ask questions, to bible study with, to help in any way we can. Whether or not one converts, becomes an Adventist, is completely left up to them, and that is as it should be.
I first learned of Adventism in November 2004. I met a friend on the internet who was Adventist. She asked me what I wanted for my birthday, which was the 28th of that month. I told her I would love a good study bible in large print, KJV. That's what I got. She asked if she could send me a seminar on End Times prophecy, she told it me was very good, by an Adventist pastor. I said, "sure", figuring what could it hurt, right? I was hooked almost immediately. The seminar was by Leo Schreven. The wonderful thing about Adventists is that they WANT you to have a bible, and they WANT you to challenge what you have learned in the past, or even what they are trying to teach you now. They don't WANT you to take their word for it!! He's a dynamic speaker, and every step of the way through this seminar, I had my bible out, and he was telling us what book, chapter, and verse to go to. It was over much too soon.
I continued to bible study on my own, but I immediately began to keep the Sabbath, during the seminar. On February 6, 2005 I walked into my local SDA church with my 15 year old son by my side, knowing no one but God in that building. They welcomed me with open arms. I immediately felt that I had come home. I had been praying to God for a long time, before meeting my Adventist friend, even, to lead me to a church that preached the TRUTH, His word, and His word only. I was sick to death, I told him of these churches who focused mostly on the traditions of men. Catlover, it's safe for me to say, God answered that prayer. He led me home.
Continue to study the bible, continue to ask questions and seek the truth. All I can tell you is that for me...I could NEVER go back to a Baptist church (the one I was raised in) or any Sunday keeping church. I will not disobey my Lord. I love Him too much, and with that love comes joyful obedience. Once you begin to learn the truth, you can't go back to that.
I'm very proud of my church, and our North American Division of Adventist Community Services...they are down there in the middle of this tragedy giving comfort and help wherever they can. I'm proud of my church for many, MANY reasons.
Please, don't let this little fracas stop you from continuing to study and seek the Lord's truth.
God Bless...
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I think some would like that to happen but life always goes on, sometimes in fits and starts.SassySDA said:
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deu58
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Hi all
Just curious, Is the Adventist church as divided in the states over doctrine as it is overseas????
That is the problem where I live in the Philippines, There are at any given time over 40 different home church groups that rise, dissolve, merge, split again and are trying to convert each other to their brand of Adventism,
Most of them consider the other to be laodocian, It is a real mess,
yours in Christ
deu 58
SassySDA said:
Just curious, Is the Adventist church as divided in the states over doctrine as it is overseas????
That is the problem where I live in the Philippines, There are at any given time over 40 different home church groups that rise, dissolve, merge, split again and are trying to convert each other to their brand of Adventism,
Most of them consider the other to be laodocian, It is a real mess,
yours in Christ
deu 58
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Zealots often get into that kind of difficulty. I would not be able to help you on a number.deu58 said:
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deu58 said:
We have our "off-shoots" if you will, but it sounds like it's worse overseas.
At any given time on the chat programs, you will find numerous SDA chatrooms. Titled numerous different things. Which confuses SDA's let alone people who are not SDA. I've seen everything from X-SDA's (which means they left the church and have to whine to everyone as to why), to Feast-keeping SDA's. True Seventh-day Adventists do not keep the feasts, so to attach that to the Seventh-day Adventist name is just wrong. Then there's the ROGS, the Davidians, the Historic, and the Reform, and Lord only knows what else.
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You make it sound like there is a gold standard being kept in a vault somewhere where one can go and get measure of a true Seventh-day Adventist. How many people in these groups would claim to be false Seventh-day Adventist?SassySDA said:
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If it's true... or not, it is not polite to gloat... Some have found other forums to participate in, and that is great because they do exist, but IMO gloating because there was a mass exodus of members from a forum is not polite... but that's just me....SassySDA said:
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Not expecting you to be Ms. Post... it is expected though that with all the messiness that has happened that we as christians can choose to forgive and move on.... but that's just me... and I say that in spite of everything that I have seen in the short time I have been here....SassySDA said:
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statrei said:
It may not be a "gold standard", but there is a standard. There is one main vine, and the rest are shoots off of that vine. Some grow further away from the main stem then others.
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StormyOne said:
Right, Stormy, otherwise we are taking the name of the Lord in vain. "And the Lord will not hold him guiltless who takes His name in vain."
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deu58 said:
We have learned from the SOP that there will come a time of "shaking" in our ranks. Thru trial and tribulation God will reveal those who love Him and those who love Him not. The Advent Movement was especially chosen by God to "repair the breach" of Sabbath keeping and deliver the Finale warning message of Babylon to the world. Therefore satan is especially targeting our church members to try and discourage as many as he can. So when I see fragmenting happening to us--I am not surprised--I knew it would come--it had to. The weak and vascilating will either distance themselves from the SOP or some other not so popular doctrine or will leave the church all together--and then come back and try to "make disciples unto themselves", of their former brethren. It's a old trick of the advisary. It's called "divide and conquer". We need to be wise to his ways and pray for a double portion of the gift of discernment from the Holy Spirit. Listen to the warning......
The work which the church has failed to do in a time
of peace and prosperity, she will have to do in a terrible
crisis, under most discouraging, forbidding, circumstances.
The warnings that worldly conformity has silenced or
withheld, must be given under the fiercest opposition from enemies
of the faith. And at that time the superficial, conservative
class, whose influence has steadily retarded the progress of
the work, will renounce the faith, and take their stand with
its avowed enemies, toward whom their sympathies have
long been tending. These apostates will then manifest the
most bitter enmity, doing all in their power to oppress and
malign their former brethren, and to excite indignation
against them. This day is just before us. The members
of the church will individually be tested and proved. They
will be placed in circumstances where they will be forced to
bear witness for the truth.
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