Gallup Poll: 56% of Americans Say Better Off Under Trump

Fantine

Dona Quixote
Site Supporter
Jun 11, 2005
37,131
13,198
✟1,090,732.00
Faith
Catholic
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Democrat
Here's the actual poll.
More Voters Say They're Better off under Trump than When Obama, Bush Sought Re-election: Gallup Poll
I think that much of this is due to actions that states took in the past four years. There have been numerous increases in the minimum wage, for example. And the ACA didn't take effect until 2012, even though it was passed in 2009.
We transitioned from working to retirement in the past ten years (my husband in 2013, me in 2018) and our income isn't what it was, but we are doing fine. I look at income as only one factor of my emotional well being. I want to leave a good world for future generations. I want a country ruled by justice, truth, and compassion. I feel bad when people around me are suffering--even if I'm not.
Those of you who thought the national debt was unacceptably high under Obama have seen it much, much higher under Trump. You can't lower taxes if you aren't taking in enough revenue to start with.
 
  • Agree
Reactions: pescador
Upvote 0

mindlight

See in the dark
Site Supporter
Dec 20, 2003
13,626
2,676
London, UK
✟823,956.00
Country
Germany
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
A Record 56% of Americans Say They Are Better Off Today Than They Were Four Years Ago Under Obama-Biden

You can always bring out individuals and give their stories why it's not the case for them and perhaps not BUT if this is a true consensus of what people generally speaking are believing than Biden is in trouble.

Trump mismanaged the Pandemic. He did that cause he valued the money over the people. Americas choice is over what matters more to them. The lives of their grandparents or their 401ks
 
  • Agree
Reactions: Brightmoon
Upvote 0

Fantine

Dona Quixote
Site Supporter
Jun 11, 2005
37,131
13,198
✟1,090,732.00
Faith
Catholic
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Democrat
I don't live in a swing state. Trump will win this state handily, whether I vote for Joe Biden, the Green Party, or write in any random name of a person who is more honest than Trump. Bernie Madoff, perhaps.

I could see voting for a minor party candidate, but never would I ever vote for a minor party candidate if I were in a swing state.

Florida's Ralph Nader voters (and a conservative Supreme Court) cost Al Gore the election.
We might have avoided 9/11 (Bush didn't heed warnings), the Iraq and Afghanistan Wars. We certainly would have avoided numerous deadly hurricanes, forest fires, and fracking-induced earthquakes.

But George W. Bush was nowhere near the threat to the future of our country--and the world itself--that Trump is. And I know for sure that he is way more honest than Bernie Madoff.
 
Upvote 0

childeye 2

Well-Known Member
Aug 18, 2018
4,972
2,886
66
Denver CO
✟203,638.00
Country
United States
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
  • Agree
Reactions: Brightmoon
Upvote 0

Brightmoon

Apes and humans are all in family Hominidae.
Mar 2, 2018
6,297
5,539
NYC
✟151,950.00
Country
United States
Faith
Episcopalian
Marital Status
Single
Politics
US-Others
Obama pulled the USA out of the slump caused by Bush Jr . Trump rode Obama’s coattails for a long while after Trump became president. Now Trump seems to be more interested in pretending that a pandemic that’s killed a lot of Americans already , isn’t a problem . The fact that he’s doing that is only going to hurt businesses more as additional people start dying
 
  • Agree
Reactions: pescador
Upvote 0

Johan_1988

Active Member
Jun 17, 2019
321
176
36
Durban
✟30,451.00
Country
South Africa
Faith
Pentecostal
Marital Status
Single
Trumps supporters don't really care about his some of his rhetoric, because they know what they want:

  • Secure borders.
  • No abortion.
  • Robust non-socialist economic policies.
  • Jobs not being exported abroad.
  • Religious liberty and freedom of speech.
  • Safety and security- Freedom from threats both domestically and abroad.

One worrying thing I'm seeing is that many people here are just regurgitating news form left leaning media, not that there aren't any valid criticisms there, but Careful guys these people want to keep their market share and they actively up play any mistakes by the right and downplay any mistakes by the left. They also blatantly lie about things as well. Trump is much better as what they portray him to be.
 
Last edited:
Upvote 0

Johan_1988

Active Member
Jun 17, 2019
321
176
36
Durban
✟30,451.00
Country
South Africa
Faith
Pentecostal
Marital Status
Single
Wishful thinking derived from propaganda

One thing I'm seeing is that many people here are just regurgitating news form left leaning media. Careful guys these people want to keep their market share and they actively up play any mistakes by the right and downplay any mistakes by the left. They also blatantly lie about things as well.
 
Last edited:
Upvote 0

roman2819

Well-Known Member
Site Supporter
Nov 22, 2012
835
212
Singapore
✟208,448.00
Country
Singapore
Faith
Non-Denom
Marital Status
Married
  • Agree
Reactions: Brightmoon
Upvote 0

Tiberius Lee

Well-Known Member
Sep 6, 2017
2,092
2,560
Wisconsin
✟145,612.00
Country
United States
Faith
Calvinist
Marital Status
Married
Trumps supporters don't really care about his some of his rhetoric, because they know what they want:

  • Secure borders.
  • No abortion.
  • Robust non-socialist economic policies.
  • Jobs not being exported abroad.
  • Religious liberty and freedom of speech.
  • Safety and security- Freedom from threats both domestically and abroad.

One worrying thing I'm seeing is that many people here are just regurgitating news form left leaning media, not that there aren't any valid criticisms there, but Careful guys these people want to keep their market share and they actively up play any mistakes by the right and downplay any mistakes by the left. They also blatantly lie about things as well. Trump is much better as what they portray him to be.


Secure borders: is border secure today. In last 4 years Trump administration built less then 360 miles border wall. In that rate it will take more then my life time to secure border. That 360 is from Border Wall System , but independent media says it is only 3 miles .

No abortion. : Did the abortion stopped under Trump? Any less then Obama administration, any national law banning abortion under Trump?

Robust non-socialist economic policies: well I will give you some of the policy from Obama administration has been changed by executive order, but it can all be overturn. Nothing passed by congress which can sustain.

Jobs not being exported abroad:

Jobs created during U.S. presidential terms - Wikipedia
upload_2020-10-12_14-47-33.png


Religious liberty and freedom of speech: I don’t remember if I had less religious liberty under Obama administration, free speech, Trump continually attack media because he doesn’t like what media has to say about him.

Safety and security- Freedom from threats both domestically and abroad:

“Donald Trump is the first president in my lifetime who does not try to unite the American people—does not even pretend to try. Instead he tries to divide us. We are witnessing the consequences of three years of this deliberate effort. We are witnessing the consequences of three years without mature leadership. We can unite without him, drawing on the strengths inherent in our civil society. This will not be easy, as the past few days have shown, but we owe it to our fellow citizens; to past generations that bled to defend our promise; and to our children.” James Mattis
 
  • Winner
Reactions: Brightmoon
Upvote 0
This site stays free and accessible to all because of donations from people like you.
Consider making a one-time or monthly donation. We appreciate your support!
- Dan Doughty and Team Christian Forums

chad kincham

Well-Known Member
Mar 4, 2009
2,773
1,005
✟62,040.00
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
Wishful thinking derived from propaganda

Before COVID came and the country was shut down on the advice of all the medical experts, which crashed the economy, Trump did the following:

(1) his economic plan of: a corporate tax cut designed to stop businesses from leaving the USA and taking jobs with them; coupled with cutting bureaucratic regulations that made it hard to start, run, or expand a business, resulted in the strongest economy in the world and the lowest unemployment rate in fifty years, with a median income increase of 5,000 dollars in just three years


(2) he rebuilt the military that was weak and depleted


(3) appointed 2 SCOTUS judges who will support the second amendment, plus 300 federal district judges


(4) set up dozens of “opportunity zones” in cities with poor neighborhoods to bring in businesses and jobs for black folks


(5) ended the war on coal and opened up oil and natural gas production, to where we are the number one worldwide energy producer


(6) renegotiated NAFTA and replaced it with the USMCA agreement, plus cancelled the TPP trade agreement


(7) got NATO allies to start paying their fair share of defense costs


(8) took on China and their one-sided tariffs by imposing reciprocal tariffs on their goods, with the end goal of no tariffs by either country - and now has a new trade agreement with them


(9) gave pastors back their free speech rights in the pulpit, to speak about anything they choose, even politics (executive order)


(10) the wall is being built


(11) he did away with restrictive rules of engagement that prevented the destruction of ISIS and destroyed their caliphate


(12) reformed the Veterans Administration so bad employees can be fired, and veterans can get healthcare from private doctors and hospitals, if the VA waiting time for an appointment is excessive.


(13) Kept His promise to move our Israel embassy to Jerusalem


(14) Supported and signed the First Step act, that is letting minorities out of prison who were given excessively long sentences.


I like having a president who’s NOT a slick, politician that tells you what he thinks you want to hear, but plainly speaks his mind, who has that NY attitude of not taking crap, who fights back, who does what he thinks is right.


Compare that to lying corrupt politicians who flip flop their positions 180 degrees, when they think that’s what the public wants.


Like Hillary, who flipped to being against everything Bill Clinton did in office, from being pro border security and anti illegal immigration, and tough on crime, and much more - just like Biden’s doing now.
 
Upvote 0

chad kincham

Well-Known Member
Mar 4, 2009
2,773
1,005
✟62,040.00
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
Wishful thinking derived from propaganda

Before COVID came and the country was shut down on the advice of all the medical experts, which crashed the economy, Trump did the following:


TRUMPs PROMISES that he’s kept


(1) his economic plan of: a corporate tax cut designed to stop businesses from leaving the USA and taking jobs with them; coupled with cutting bureaucratic regulations that made it hard to start, run, or expand a business, resulted in the strongest economy in the world and the lowest unemployment rate in fifty years, with a median income increase of 5,000 dollars in just three years


(2) he rebuilt the military that was weak and depleted


(3) appointed 2 SCOTUS judges who will support the second amendment, plus 300 federal district judges


(4) set up dozens of “opportunity zones” in cities with poor neighborhoods to bring in businesses and jobs for black folks


(5) ended the war on coal and opened up oil and natural gas production, to where we are the number one worldwide energy producer


(6) renegotiated NAFTA and replaced it with the USMCA agreement, plus cancelled the TPP trade agreement


(7) got NATO allies to start paying their fair share of defense costs


(8) took on China and their one-sided tariffs by imposing reciprocal tariffs on their goods, with the end goal of no tariffs by either country - and now has a new trade agreement with them


(9) gave pastors back their free speech rights in the pulpit, to speak about anything they choose, even politics (executive order)


(10) the wall is being built


(11) he did away with restrictive rules of engagement that prevented the destruction of ISIS and destroyed their caliphate


(12) reformed the Veterans Administration so bad employees can be fired, and veterans can get healthcare from private doctors and hospitals, if the VA waiting time for an appointment is excessive.


(13) Kept His promise to move our Israel embassy to Jerusalem


(14) Supported and signed the First Step act, that is letting minorities out of prison who were given excessively long sentences.


I like having a president who’s NOT a slick, politician that tells you what he thinks you want to hear, but plainly speaks his mind, who has that NY attitude of not taking crap, who fights back, who does what he thinks is right.


Compare that to lying corrupt politicians who flip flop their positions 180 degrees, when they think that’s what the public wants.


Like Hillary, who flipped to being against everything Bill Clinton did in office, from being pro border security and anti illegal immigration, and tough on crime, and much more - just like Biden’s doing now.
 
  • Winner
Reactions: Arc F1
Upvote 0

Johan_1988

Active Member
Jun 17, 2019
321
176
36
Durban
✟30,451.00
Country
South Africa
Faith
Pentecostal
Marital Status
Single
Secure borders: is border secure today. In last 4 years Trump administration built less then 360 miles border wall. In that rate it will take more then my life time to secure border. That 360 is from Border Wall System , but independent media says it is only 3 miles .

No abortion. : Did the abortion stopped under Trump? Any less then Obama administration, any national law banning abortion under Trump?

Robust non-socialist economic policies: well I will give you some of the policy from Obama administration has been changed by executive order, but it can all be overturn. Nothing passed by congress which can sustain.

Jobs not being exported abroad:

Jobs created during U.S. presidential terms - Wikipedia
View attachment 286221

Religious liberty and freedom of speech: I don’t remember if I had less religious liberty under Obama administration, free speech, Trump continually attack media because he doesn’t like what media has to say about him.

Safety and security- Freedom from threats both domestically and abroad:

“Donald Trump is the first president in my lifetime who does not try to unite the American people—does not even pretend to try. Instead he tries to divide us. We are witnessing the consequences of three years of this deliberate effort. We are witnessing the consequences of three years without mature leadership. We can unite without him, drawing on the strengths inherent in our civil society. This will not be easy, as the past few days have shown, but we owe it to our fellow citizens; to past generations that bled to defend our promise; and to our children.” James Mattis


Again:

Secure borders:

Most of the independent media's coverage of Trump is always negative: Remember that interview in 60minutes where Trump was asked if he condemns white supremacy then he said "Yes",but the host said that was not good enough and not sincere, even in the first presidential debate he said "Sure", but the left wing media continued to say he condones white supremacy. The white house website says they have already erected 400 miles of the wall:
UPDATE: New Border Wall Reaches 400 Miles | The White House

No abortion:

Republicans have continued to try de-fund planned parenthood, but the do not have enough votes in the senate and the house to enact legislation since cutting funding would necessitate the changing of law, which democrats are against. He has how ever made an executive order to protect those babies who are born alive.
GOP Vows to Defund Planned Parenthood. As States Learned, That's Hard.
Trump promises ‘born alive’ executive order in appeal to anti-abortion voters

Economic policies:
Trumps tax cuts has helped increase the median household income. With regulation cuts it has also created jobs and wage increases.
Trump tax cuts and the middle class: Here are the facts
The current GDP under Trump still during COVID has accelerated to 33.1% annualized pace
U.S. GDP booms at 33.1% rate in Q3, better than expected

The only reason that there are statistically marked job losses is because of the pandemic. Which the response have been mostly conducted by state governors since the US is a federation and does not have a centralized government.Lockdowns have been the major cause of job losses.
This map shows the states who have gone in lockdown again. Out of the 7, 5 are blue states:
See How All 50 States Are Reopening (and Closing Again)
He has renegotiated one sided trade deals which benefit American business and workers.
What has Donald Trump actually achieved on trade?

Safety and security- Freedom from threats both domestically and abroad:
Trump has acted swiftly by engaging the US mililtary to eliminate the ISIS Caliphate with the execution of Al-Baghdadi and others.
How the US cornered Baghdadi
Also his actions led to the elimination of Qasem Solemani who's actions have lead to about 600 US soldiers in Iraq being killed.
'The puppet master is dead': Iranian Gen. Qasem Soleimani's power, and why his death is such a big deal
He successfully brokered peace deals between the UAE, Bahrain and Sudan:
Five reasons why Israel's peace deals with the UAE and Bahrain matter
How Sudan's rebel deal offers lifeline for peace

God bless America and the whole world. Revival is about to break out.
Love y'all in the United States no matter what you think of what I've said.
 
Last edited:
  • Agree
Reactions: chad kincham
Upvote 0

pescador

Wise old man
Site Supporter
Nov 29, 2011
8,530
4,776
✟498,844.00
Country
United States
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Democrat
Trumps supporters don't really care about his some of his rhetoric, because they know what they want:

  • Secure borders.
  • No abortion.
  • Robust non-socialist economic policies.
  • Jobs not being exported abroad.
  • Religious liberty and freedom of speech.
  • Safety and security- Freedom from threats both domestically and abroad.

One worrying thing I'm seeing is that many people here are just regurgitating news form left leaning media, not that there aren't any valid criticisms there, but Careful guys these people want to keep their market share and they actively up play any mistakes by the right and downplay any mistakes by the left. They also blatantly lie about things as well. Trump is much better as what they portray him to be.

You're lucky that you don't have Trump as your President. If you lived in the US you would be saying something entirely different.
 
  • Agree
Reactions: Brightmoon
Upvote 0
This site stays free and accessible to all because of donations from people like you.
Consider making a one-time or monthly donation. We appreciate your support!
- Dan Doughty and Team Christian Forums

pescador

Wise old man
Site Supporter
Nov 29, 2011
8,530
4,776
✟498,844.00
Country
United States
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Democrat
Yeah, everyone who lives here is a pot-smoking leftist, right?

What are you talking about? I responded to a post from Johan_1988, who lives in South Africa. Are you a South African, answering on his behalf, or..?
 
Upvote 0

chad kincham

Well-Known Member
Mar 4, 2009
2,773
1,005
✟62,040.00
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
Secure borders: is border secure today. In last 4 years Trump administration built less then 360 miles border wall. In that rate it will take more then my life time to secure border. That 360 is from Border Wall System , but independent media says it is only 3 miles .

No abortion. : Did the abortion stopped under Trump? Any less then Obama administration, any national law banning abortion under Trump?

You forget that congress refused to fund the wall at all, Trump had to find alternative funding, which isn’t easy. When he’s reelected, no thanks to clueless folks who slurp the fake news kool aid, and he gets the house back and retains the senate, the wall can be quickly built

You also apparently don’t know how our government works. Trump can’t ignore the Supreme Court ruling that legalized abortion on demand, and even if Republicans had the house as well as the senate, and passed a law stopping abortion, the Supreme Court would just strike it down, just like they keep striking down state laws restricting abortions.
All Trump can do is what he promised, and has done, which is appoint Supreme Court justices who will follow the constitution, so that roe v wade can be overturned one day.
 
Upvote 0
This site stays free and accessible to all because of donations from people like you.
Consider making a one-time or monthly donation. We appreciate your support!
- Dan Doughty and Team Christian Forums

pescador

Wise old man
Site Supporter
Nov 29, 2011
8,530
4,776
✟498,844.00
Country
United States
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Democrat
You forget that congress refused to fund the wall at all, Trump had to find alternative funding, which isn’t easy. When he’s reelected, no thanks to clueless folks who slurp the fake news kool aid, and he gets the house back and retains the senate, the wall can be quickly built

You also apparently don’t know how our government works. Trump can’t ignore the Supreme Court ruling that legalized abortion on demand, and even if Republicans had the house as well as the senate, and passed a law stopping abortion, the Supreme Court would just strike it down, just like they keep striking down state laws restricting abortions.
All Trump can do is what he promised, and has done, which is appoint Supreme Court justices who will follow the constitution, so that roe v wade can be overturned one day.

In a short time, when Joe Biden is President, he will (hopefully) "pack the court" by increasing the number of judges beyond 9, then nominating liberals to undo the damage created by Trump and McConnell. Prohibiting Garland's nomination from being voted on was beyond criminal, but appointing two conservatives to tilt the court far to the right should be grounds for imprisonment.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Brightmoon
Upvote 0