I'm grateful that the name's been changed, because this title is a bit more accurate. I'd actually come to the preterist understanding partly through reading the Greek Orthodox Study Bible - so to say it's "UNorthodox" is completely inaccurate. It seems to me that, in the U.S., "mainstream" is what's gone unorthodox (which probably has to do with the popularity of non-denominational mega churches with no accountability). Do you all recall when Hank Hanegraaf (the Bible answer man) converted to the Greek Orthodox faith? I recall seeing several comments on social media about how he'd "left the faith" and how people needed to "pray for him". SMH.Hello.
This board used to be named the "Unorthodox Theology" board, which are for those views that stray outside of mainstream Christian orthodoxy.
From Christianity Today: “People are posting this notion that somehow or other I’ve walked away from the faith and am no longer a Christian,” Hanegraaff said on his Tuesday broadcast. “Look, my views have been codified in 20 books, and my views have not changed.” ~ ‘Bible Answer Man’ Converts to Orthodoxy
A specific post on this forum that I remember that caused me to do a lot more reading (because it made Scripture make so much more sense) was this one - from Light of the East:
He wrote: "Okay, that verse makes absolutely no sense at all unless you understand the word "Israel" proper and in its context. "Israel" means "the people of God." It does not mean "Jews." Once you understand that, you will stop making your Zionist mistakes with the Bible as well as denying other parts of the Bible which quite clearly teach that national Israel (i.e., Jews) are no longer in a covenant relationship with God.
In other words, St. Paul is saying that not all Jews who are of the nation of Israel, or "Israelites" are really part of God's people (true Israel). Matthew 21:33-45 also makes it abundantly clear that national Israel has been thrown out of the "vineyard" (i.e. the Kingdom of God) as the husbandmen and replaced by "another nation, bringing forth fruits in due season."
Finally, the Old Covenant is trashed and done by the death of Christ, murdered by the nation He came to redeem and offer Himself as the divine Bridegroom. You cannot have a covenant relationship between two people when one of them is dead. The Old Covenant is over, the veil of the Temple was torn asunder, showing that the covenant was ended and there would be no more Yom Kippur in the Holiest of All. It's done for the Jews.
All the promises of genetics and location are covenant promises. When the Old Covenant was ended with the murder of the Messiah, those promises went by the wayside. You need to get your head around that fact. This is how covenant works.
Again, the promises there are based on fidelity to the covenant. Remember, covenant comes with blessing for obedience and curse for disobedience. The killing of the One who is Covenant Head is the maximum you can do to bring curse upon you, and in this case, as the Matthian text shows, that curse is to be "killed" as a nation. Or, as in the case of AD 70 - utterly destroyed.
In other words, St. Paul is saying that not all Jews who are of the nation of Israel, or "Israelites" are really part of God's people (true Israel). Matthew 21:33-45 also makes it abundantly clear that national Israel has been thrown out of the "vineyard" (i.e. the Kingdom of God) as the husbandmen and replaced by "another nation, bringing forth fruits in due season."
Finally, the Old Covenant is trashed and done by the death of Christ, murdered by the nation He came to redeem and offer Himself as the divine Bridegroom. You cannot have a covenant relationship between two people when one of them is dead. The Old Covenant is over, the veil of the Temple was torn asunder, showing that the covenant was ended and there would be no more Yom Kippur in the Holiest of All. It's done for the Jews.
All the promises of genetics and location are covenant promises. When the Old Covenant was ended with the murder of the Messiah, those promises went by the wayside. You need to get your head around that fact. This is how covenant works.
Again, the promises there are based on fidelity to the covenant. Remember, covenant comes with blessing for obedience and curse for disobedience. The killing of the One who is Covenant Head is the maximum you can do to bring curse upon you, and in this case, as the Matthian text shows, that curse is to be "killed" as a nation. Or, as in the case of AD 70 - utterly destroyed." The Father Of (Partial Preterism) A Catholic Jesuit "Luis De Alcasar" (1554-1613)
In other words, St. Paul is saying that not all Jews who are of the nation of Israel, or "Israelites" are really part of God's people (true Israel). Matthew 21:33-45 also makes it abundantly clear that national Israel has been thrown out of the "vineyard" (i.e. the Kingdom of God) as the husbandmen and replaced by "another nation, bringing forth fruits in due season."
Finally, the Old Covenant is trashed and done by the death of Christ, murdered by the nation He came to redeem and offer Himself as the divine Bridegroom. You cannot have a covenant relationship between two people when one of them is dead. The Old Covenant is over, the veil of the Temple was torn asunder, showing that the covenant was ended and there would be no more Yom Kippur in the Holiest of All. It's done for the Jews.
All the promises of genetics and location are covenant promises. When the Old Covenant was ended with the murder of the Messiah, those promises went by the wayside. You need to get your head around that fact. This is how covenant works.
Again, the promises there are based on fidelity to the covenant. Remember, covenant comes with blessing for obedience and curse for disobedience. The killing of the One who is Covenant Head is the maximum you can do to bring curse upon you, and in this case, as the Matthian text shows, that curse is to be "killed" as a nation. Or, as in the case of AD 70 - utterly destroyed.
In other words, St. Paul is saying that not all Jews who are of the nation of Israel, or "Israelites" are really part of God's people (true Israel). Matthew 21:33-45 also makes it abundantly clear that national Israel has been thrown out of the "vineyard" (i.e. the Kingdom of God) as the husbandmen and replaced by "another nation, bringing forth fruits in due season."
Finally, the Old Covenant is trashed and done by the death of Christ, murdered by the nation He came to redeem and offer Himself as the divine Bridegroom. You cannot have a covenant relationship between two people when one of them is dead. The Old Covenant is over, the veil of the Temple was torn asunder, showing that the covenant was ended and there would be no more Yom Kippur in the Holiest of All. It's done for the Jews.
All the promises of genetics and location are covenant promises. When the Old Covenant was ended with the murder of the Messiah, those promises went by the wayside. You need to get your head around that fact. This is how covenant works.
Again, the promises there are based on fidelity to the covenant. Remember, covenant comes with blessing for obedience and curse for disobedience. The killing of the One who is Covenant Head is the maximum you can do to bring curse upon you, and in this case, as the Matthian text shows, that curse is to be "killed" as a nation. Or, as in the case of AD 70 - utterly destroyed." The Father Of (Partial Preterism) A Catholic Jesuit "Luis De Alcasar" (1554-1613)
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