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Full Preterist Safe House

Discussion in 'Controversial Christian Theology' started by Anto9us, Nov 1, 2013.

  1. Anto9us

    Anto9us Well-Known Member Supporter

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    I am interested in studying Full Preterism

    which is not allowed in GT/End Times

    no partials - no Mormons - no Muslims - no other eschatology
     
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  2. Evergreen48

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    How are you going to proceed with your study in this forum? Are you going to ask questions of those who are of the 'full Preterist' persuasion?
     
  3. Anto9us

    Anto9us Well-Known Member Supporter

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    I guess so

    it seems exactly in line with the purpose of this forum -

    "Unorthodox Theology A forum to discuss/debate theological doctrines not accepted by mainstream evangelical Christianity

    (eg. Full Preterism"

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    so - this must be the place...
     
  4. drstevej

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    This is the place but it is not a safe house that can preclude other views. Just saying.
     
  5. Albion

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    If you want to get only one side of the story, I'm sure there are other discussion boards you could turn to.

    Yes, it's true that if you pose a question here, you'll probably get a variety of replies. What's the problem with that? You still get to make up your own mind after hearing from whoever responds.
     
  6. Anto9us

    Anto9us Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Yall are correct that it cannot be a "safe house" for an unorthodox view

    It is a correct forum for discussing but cannot preclude those opposing it

    So I will shelve my idea of "no other ideas" and just regroup.

    Other eschatologies have safe houses in GT end times - but the UT area is different

    so I will keep reading about Full Preterism but drop other expectations
     
  7. Ripheus27

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    Most full preterist doctrines I've read of hold total prophetic fulfillment to have taken place with the destruction of Jerusalem. However, a much more plausible (IMHO) such theory has the Crucifixion itself stand for the end (as in the point at which the final outcome is decided) of time. I don't recall off the top of my head the name of the book arguing for this conclusion, but it's something like The Cross at a Distance: Atonement in the Gospel of Mark.
     
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  8. interpreter

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    I have been labeled a preterist by cf because I say the second coming was in 312 AD when the sign of the Son of Man appeared in the clouds, and Jesus came into power through St. Constantine who rode a white horse and conquered with a bow. And he sent his messengers with a trumpet and gathered the elect of all the Church together, to Nicea.
     
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  9. Albion

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    If it were me instead of you, I'd be glad to settle for "preterist." :D
     
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  10. Anto9us

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    If total prophetic fulfillment took place at the crucifixion, why would have Paul have jumped on Hymenaeus and the other dude for saying the day of Christ had already happened - Paul wrote several years before 70 AD

    full prets say 70 AD is the time of parousia - before that Peter could write that the Lord was long-suffering, that people were scoffing at a parousia, Paul could still speak of a "Day of Christ" in the future - Peter and Paul wrote AFTER the crucifixion but BEFORE 70 ad

    I don't know about Partial Prets and "Constantine Prets" - 312 AD - new one on me for a parousia
     
  11. Anto9us

    Anto9us Well-Known Member Supporter

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    I have re-labeled this thread to be the "un-safe house" that it is...

    well, I tried to re-label it
     
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  12. drstevej

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    All who were at Nicea were elect and only these were at Nicea? Were there any resurrected beings at Nicea?

    Any one want some Pret-corn? The kernels all popped in AD312. :wave:

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  13. Anto9us

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    I want Pret-Corn popped in 312 but BUTTERRED in 70 AD

    we will watch movies of Constantine riding his WHITE horse - though I am not sure what tells us his horse was white...

    an added feature will be a surprise reel of the Apostle Paul

    FALLING OFF OF HIS HORSE on the road to Damascus!!

    A horse of a different color, indeed - a horse NEVER MENTIONED in four NT accounts of Paul's conversion on road to Damascus

    yet commentaries from way back (including John Calvin's on Paul's conversion)

    say explicitly that Paul fell from a horse

    no horse in scripture on the road to Damascus

    I say the horse got loose and ran all the way to Nicea 3 centuries later

    HEIGH HO - SILVER!! AWAY!!!
     
  14. interpreter

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    The first resurrection occurs much later, in chapter 20. That may require a third coming. Because I do not rule out a third coming, I guess I'm a partial preterist.
     
  15. drstevej

    drstevej "The crowd always chooses Barabbas." Staff Member Chaplain Supporter

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    Perhaps LaHaye can write "Left Behind but Waiting on the Next Bus Home" to cover the Third Coming.
     
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  16. Anto9us

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    lol

    this house is NOT SAFE

    and it seems one cannot change a thread title once begun

    "Left Behind but Paul's Horse will get me there by the third coming"
     
  17. drstevej

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    Not even my Mod-powers could change it.
     
  18. Anto9us

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    thx fer tryin
     
  19. Albion

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    Yeh. Others have found that out to their dismay. Don't give it too much thought; just go ahead and present your thoughts anyway.
     
  20. Anto9us

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    OK Albion, I will try.

    and you are correct that I could just "go to a full pret board" and discuss stuff without opposing views, but I may as well discuss on CF my history of hang-gliding on the wings of eschatological doctrine as I see it.

    Right before I joined CF back in July, I had read Gentry's book BEFORE JERUSALEM FELL and became open to the POSSIBILITY that Revelation might have the early date in Nero's time rather than standard view of written in Domitians's time - POSSIBILITY, mind you, not convinced.

    So I came to CF ripe for something other than the PreTrib I had held for decades - certain things bothered me about it and always had - animal sacrifices re-instituted after Christ's one perfect sacrifice - a GAP in Daniel that one cannot see just by reading internally in book of Daniel.

    MY early efforts to enter the partial pret safe house in GT End Times met with as much unsuccess as this Unsafe house thread here.

    I tried to edge in (to that safe house which really IS a partial pret safehouse) and hint that I had been pretrib but was interested in partial preterism, which I didn't know much about.

    Immediately the partials started vomiting on pretrib and saying what a 'river of nonsense' it was - how anyone who could hold it must be looney -- and I will describe my venturing into there with an analogy which is NOT an exaggeration
     
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