France looks to ban homeschool in part to "protect children from religion."

[HappyHope]

FRANCE France moves to ban homeschooling in 2021 - National Association of Catholic Families

French homeschool numbers have been increasing over the years. In efforts to end separatism, France is looking to stop homeschool except in rare cases and align even independent private schools with the same common core curriculum. This is in part to stop Islamic support for sharia law in France.

I am sympathetic to a point, but one extreme (sharia law) does not necessarily justify another extreme (loss of educational freedom).

 

[Speedwell]

FRANCE France moves to ban homeschooling in 2021 - National Association of Catholic Families

French homeschool numbers have been increasing over the years. In efforts to end separatism, France is looking to stop homeschool except in rare cases and align even independent private schools with the same common core curriculum. This is in part to stop Islamic support for sharia law in France.

I am sympathetic to a point, but one extreme (sharia law) does not necessarily justify another extreme (loss of educational freedom).

It also stops the bad science and revisionist history sometimes taught to Christian homeschoolers.

 

[thehehe]

I am sympathetic to a point, but one extreme (sharia law) does not necessarily justify another extreme (loss of educational freedom).

Couldn't agree more. Same for the independent private schools: true, many need to be closed, but many others are actually a blessing to their students who find themselves more comfortable in another system than the usual one. I wish we could find balance between fighting troublesome schools and closing many good schools. For one real problem, they are always way too many collateral damages.

 

[thehehe]

It also stops the bad science and revisionist history sometimes taught to Christian homeschoolers.

True, but if you mean creationism or other things like that, this is very rare in France.
Moreover, most of the time, Christian (or especially Catholics as this is a very Catholic phenomenon) parents who don't want their kids in the Republic schools register in independent or alternatives schools. Homeschooling is not a Christian habit here.

 

[CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN]

That's a hard one. Some Christians and Muslims have less of a crazy belief system. And they will be punish. Some liberals also homeschool. If I had a child right now . I would home school at least until COVID-19 is over. Not that I would be the happiest about it. But putting my self and parents in danger would be a big No.

 

[AvilaSurfer]

So the state is now determining what I teach my kids? Um, no.

 

[FireDragon76]

France's islamaphobia is bordering on paranoia.

 

[keith99]

There is nothing in this that prevents parents from teaching their children almost whatever they want.

It will prevent parents from isolating their children from a basic education. Very different things.

 

[FireDragon76]

There is nothing in this that prevents parents from teaching their children almost whatever they want.

It will prevent parents from isolating their children from a basic education. Very different things.

In the midst of a pandemic, it seems a strange time to be arguing for the state's right to cram kids into classrooms, regardless of their parents wishes.

 

[paul1149]

This is in part to stop Islamic support for sharia law in France.

France is in a dilemma because for so long it allowed unbridled immigration from an alien culture that by and large has no intention of assimilating. Now how does it say Christians can home school but Muslim can't?

Of course there are abuses and nothing is perfect, but Christians homeschooling in the US take us back to our godly cultural roots, not away from them, and should be encouraged.

 

[FireDragon76]

France is in a dilemma because for so long it allowed unbridled immigration from an alien culture that by and large has no intention of assimilating. Now how does it say Christians can home school but Muslim can't?

Of course there are abuses and nothing is perfect, but Christians homeschooling in the US take us back to our godly cultural roots, not away from them, and should be encouraged.

Algeria, where most of the Muslim immigrants came from, was not just a colony of France but was actually part of France, so they didn't just let immigrants in for no reason. They had every right to come to France, as French citizens.

One of the greatest philosophers of modern times in France, Jacques Derrida, was from Algeria. He was also a Jew.

 

[HARK!]

It also stops the bad science and revisionist history sometimes taught to Christian homeschoolers.

It also lends support to the bad science and revisionist history sometimes taught to students forced into the indoctrination of government run "educational" institutions.

 

[paul1149]

Algeria, where most of the Muslim immigrants came from, was not just a colony of France but was actually part of France, so they didn't just let immigrants in for no reason. They had every right to come to France, as French citizens.

Algeria attained independence in 1962. It was mostly after that that France's immigration stepped up.


Proportion of immigrant population of France 1921-2015 in 2000

 

[rjs330]

Algeria attained independence in 1962. It was mostly after that that France's immigration stepped up.


Proportion of immigrant population of France 1921-2015 in 2000

It looks like they had a huge influx from 1965 to 1975 and after 2000. Both after they made independence. So it appears that France dis indeed allow a large influx of immigrants and not citizens.

 

[paul1149]

It looks like they had a huge influx from 1965 to 1975 and after 2000. Both after they made independence. So it appears that France dis indeed allow a large influx of immigrants and not citizens.

Yes. And there were warning voices along the way, including that of a perhaps unlikely cultural guardian, Bridget Bardot.

 

[cow451]

It also stops the bad science and revisionist history sometimes taught to Christian homeschoolers.

Ouch.

 

[JohnDB]

Well they just shut EVERYTHING down for two weeks including schools for a horrendous outbreak of Covid-19.

Including restaurants. (For them that's serious)

 

[keith99]

In the midst of a pandemic, it seems a strange time to be arguing for the state's right to cram kids into classrooms, regardless of their parents wishes.

Good point. I live in civilized California where schools are generally being held online. Actually near me the exceptions are private schools.

 

[Nithavela]

So the state is now determining what I teach my kids? Um, no.

Are you french?

 

[rjs330]

It also stops the bad science and revisionist history sometimes taught to Christian homeschoolers.

And what pray tell is this bad science and revisionist history you refer to?