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Forcing your beliefs on others

imind

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So would you say that the morality that allows a 60 year old Muslim man to marry a child of 10 wrong and why?
i think people should be allowed to marry who they wish. having said that, i don't think a 10 year old is capable of making that decision at such a young age.

i don't understand where this is going.
 
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imind

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So if it is immoral then why is it morally acceptable, surely as a race of humans we should be able to come to some conclusion about whether it should be legal to sleep with a ten year old when you are sixty.
i don't understand your point.
 
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imind

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Exactly...there is no such thing as a moral.....what is your definition?
lol. all that for nothing. i agree with you that morality is subjective, and that as christians we simply abide by the morality 'given' to us by god.

this will not prevent me, though, from saying that some things are morally wrong, even if others disagree.

i stand by my earlier statement that we should not treat others as they would not want to be treated. though some may do it, i doubt very much they could justify it. i think the definition of a moral/immoral behavior would have to be justified.

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re-reading that, i am saying two different things. maybe an absolute morality could exist, even if others want to disagree. it is not important that they disagree; can they justify their disagreement?
 
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Exactly, thats why I said it had toi be looked at from a non religious perspective..with out God morals do not really exist as concrete....merely subjective thought.
 
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imind

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Exactly, thats why I said it had toi be looked at from a non religious perspective..with out God morals do not really exist as concrete....merely subjective thought.
isn't this simply a clever way around the question?

you had asked at one point about good and bad, and who defines it. i have a question for you that an environmental ethics professor presented to us one day. i'd like your perspective on it.

i do have to sleep now, but consider it this evening and we can pick it up tomorrow. by PM if a mod finds it necessary.

anyway the question is...

imagine a planet identical to our own in every aspect accept that there are no humans on it.

one day an environmental tragedy (meteor strike, volcano, earthquake, whatever, it doesn't matter). this tragedy kills 75% of all life on the planet (plants, animals, insects, etc).

is this good or bad?

i have to go to bed now, but consider it this evening and we can pick it up tomorrow. i'll be checking in to the board from time to time all day. take your time with this if you wish, as its kind of a tricky question.

good night.
 
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TricksterWolf

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I don't think most Christians force their beliefs on others.

Some do. The ones who get on a pulpit in public and shout obscenities and accusations at passers-by lack my respect. I understand, however, that these are a tiny minority.

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As someone else said, "forcing your beliefs on others" does not mean "forcing others to believe what you do", it means "forcing others to live according to your beliefs when they do not share them".

This includes:

1. "family values" legislation

2. closing of topless bars and other adult establishments

3. crusades against porn and other parts of the adult industry

4. marriage amendments

5. assaults on science education, i.e. dumbing down the nation so that it is unable to compete in technology and is the laughingstock of the world
 
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JesusWalks78

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So if we listen to your way of how these things are to be done...are you not forcing your beliefs on us?
 
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faster_jackrabbit

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So if we listen to your way of how these things are to be done...are you not forcing your beliefs on us?
I am not wanting you to do anything. I am not trying to get you to go to topless bars. I am not trying to get you to watch porn. I am not trying to tell you who you can marry and who you can't. I am not trying to restrict you from doing anything other than trying to restrict me.

In what way am I forcing beliefs on you, other than to ask you not to force beliefs on me?
 
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JesusWalks78

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You are trying to stop me from living in my ideal world that is free of sin and as much temptation to sin and enabling sin as possible...you are forcing that upon me.
 
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