For creationists: give me your arguments against evolution.

[bhsmte]

You asked for design, and I showed you a naturally occurring design. It is your own claims that designs must also have function and purpose.

As usual, you are incapable of an adult conversation. You are back on ignore.

Why did you take him off of ignore?

 

[Loudmouth]

Why did you take him off of ignore?

Everyone deserves a second chance. Unfortunately, all he can do is repeat the same things over and over while not comprehending what others write.

 

[bhsmte]

Everyone deserves a second chance. Unfortunately, all he can do is repeat the same things over and over while not comprehending what others write.

I hate to brag, but I am batting 1000 in my choices of putting someone on ignore (1 for 1).

 

[OldWiseGuy]

For one thing, you are wrong. Millions of christians accept evolution and find no need to abandon any good moral ideas. Millions of atheists also have good moral ideas and accept evolution. Good moral ideas and evolution are not mutually exclusive.

I said some really good morals.

 

[bhsmte]

I said some really good morals.

As determined by whom?

 

[justlookinla]

As determined by whom?

Those with determining abilities?

 

[OldWiseGuy]

As determined by whom?

God of course.

 

[DerelictJunction]

Those with determining abilities?

Someone other than you, then.

 

[DerelictJunction]

God of course.

Your interpretation of the Bible, you mean.

Unless, God speaks directly to you....

 

[Loudmouth]

I said some really good morals.

Atheists have really good morals. Just look at how much better atheists treat homosexuals than christians do.

 

[Loudmouth]

God of course.

As usual, when a christian says that God will be the judge, the christian actually means themself.

 

[AV1611VET]

Why do you reject evolution?

The Bible rejects evolution, therefore I reject evolution.

 

[Strathos]

The Bible rejects evolution, therefore I reject evolution.

By the same logic, the Bible also rejects the theory of gravity, germ theory, heliocentrism, and the existence of the Americas. So you'd better start rejecting those, too.

 

[bhsmte]

By the same logic, the Bible also rejects the theory of gravity, germ theory, heliocentrism, and the existence of the Americas. So you'd better start rejecting those, too.

Then you take away the ability to cherry pick.

 

[selfinflikted]

By the same logic, the Bible also rejects the theory of gravity, germ theory, heliocentrism, and the existence of the Americas. So you'd better start rejecting those, too.

Not quite. The Bible gives a specific creation story. Now, whether one wants to read that literally or not is quite up to the individual. The Bible is absolutely silent on gravity, germ theory, nearly silent on heliocentrism (a tenuous case can indeed be made that the Bible promotes geocentrism), and the Americas. But the Bible is not silent on how man was created, and if read literally, is in direct conflict with the Theory of Evolution. So, as painful to admit as it is, AV actually has a point on this one.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Your interpretation of the Bible, you mean.

Unless, God speaks directly to you....

God speaks through his word, the bible, and through his son Jesus Christ, and by means of the Holy Spirit we understand what he desires. Atheists can express, and impose, their morality through legislation, something Christians cannot do in this day and age.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

By the same logic, the Bible also rejects the theory of gravity, germ theory, heliocentrism, and the existence of the Americas. So you'd better start rejecting those, too.

Lot's of things and people 'fell' in the bible story.

Jesus healed all diseases, including those caused by pathogens, leprosy for example.

The sun rules the day (Gen 1). But for practical purposes the earth is the center of the universe.

The New World (later named America), termed the wilderness, and her place is where the church was carried on "eagles wings".

 

[AV1611VET]

By the same logic, the Bible also rejects ...

Not.

... the theory of gravity,

Judas' rope broke and he "fell," Wormwood will "fall to earth".

germ theory,

If you're referring to Leviticus 14, you need to re-read that chapter.

The blood applied by the priests (ceremoniously) was done after the leprosy was healed.

heliocentrism,

Ignoring relativity laws to interpret the Bible, are we?

... and the existence of the Americas.

-- Huh?

So you'd better start rejecting those, too.

Nope.

 

[AV1611VET]

Not quite. The Bible gives a specific creation story. Now, whether one wants to read that literally or not is quite up to the individual. The Bible is absolutely silent on gravity, germ theory, nearly silent on heliocentrism (a tenuous case can indeed be made that the Bible promotes geocentrism), and the Americas. But the Bible is not silent on how man was created, and if read literally, is in direct conflict with the Theory of Evolution. So, as painful to admit as it is, AV actually has a point on this one.

You da man! You da man!

 

[lewiscalledhimmaster]

There are other views on this. I don't know enough about them, however, this gentleman seems to have all his cards in his deck.

Just another look at it..


Taxonomic nested hierarchies don’t support Darwinism — transformed cladism rocks | Uncommon Descent

Does he play with a full deck?
Details?