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Can you try to translate this into common English?

"The same reason Frankencell can't be beyond space and time yet atheist believes it even though it's beyond what proven possible by nature."

What is this Frankencell that is supposed to be beyond space and time?
 
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Can you try to translate this into common English?

"The same reason Frankencell can't be beyond space and time yet atheist believes it even though it's beyond what proven possible by nature."

What is this Frankencell that is supposed to be beyond space and time?

I've only seen atheist make the meatball argument.
No one knows how is even possible for Frankencell to have ever existed since what we know about living cell to reproduce requires a lot of code and a lot of hardware (protein machinery).
 
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Atheists don't believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster. We consider the FSM and the christian deity to be equally unbelievable for the same reasons.

BUT at the same time you believe in Frankencell which is more closer to FSM than God. You believe scientist will one day discover your creator in a test tube.

There is probably no biologist on earth that thinks the first cell popped into existence, let alone any atheist community.

The first self replicating chemical life was probably no where near complex enough to form proper cells.
And what is the probability of such nonsense is true.
 
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What Frankencell?



How so?



I already know who my creators are. I call them Mom and Dad.

You seem to be lacking understanding of biology. If I stick a game DVD in my PC to play a game that doesn't make me the creator of the software and/or hardware.
 
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You seem to be lacking understanding of biology. If I stick a game DVD in my PC to play a game that doesn't make me the creator of the software and/or hardware.

Then cure my lack of understanding.

What is a Frankencell? Cite a real peer reviewed paper that uses the term "Frankencell" and defines what it is.
 
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Then cure my lack of understanding.

What is a Frankencell? Cite a real peer reviewed paper that uses the term "Frankencell" and defines what it is.

Apparently despite the fact no atheists here seem to know what a Franken cell is, it's something Smidlee is sure we all believe in lol.
 
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Then cure my lack of understanding.

What is a Frankencell? Cite a real peer reviewed paper that uses the term "Frankencell" and defines what it is.

Gee, do I have to continue to explain it's the make-believe first cell atheist have to believe in in spite of all the evidence point to the fact there is a minimum requirement for a living cell to reproduce.
 
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Gee, do I have to continue to explain it the make-believe first cell atheist have to believe in . . .

Atheists don't have to believe in a first cell that came about by abiogenesis. There is simply no evidence that a deity started life, so we continue to not believe that a deity started life.

Secondly, there is plenty of evidence that demonstrates universal common descent, so no faith based belief is necessary for universal common descent.

29+ Evidences for Macroevolution: Part 1

in spite of all the evidence point to the fact there is a minimum requirement for a living cell to reproduce.

What is that minimum, and why is it a problem for atheism?
 
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Atheists don't have to believe in a first cell that came about by abiogenesis. There is simply no evidence that a deity started life, so we continue to not believe that a deity started life.
Life is the evidence as it requires a creator just like Windows 8 .
 
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Evidence please.

God has outsmarted you. He has force you to believe in some kind of frankencell in spite of the evidence against it in order to deny Him. Atheist believe science would destroy God but as man knowledge grows the evidence is getting stronger.
 
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God has outsmarted you. He has force you to believe in some kind of frankencell in spite of the evidence against it in order to deny Him. Atheist believe science would destroy God but as man knowledge grows the evidence is getting stronger.

I don't believe in some kind of Frankencell, and you have presented nothing by empty assertions. You have presented zero evidence.

Are you going to present evidence for your claims or not?
 
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God has outsmarted you. He has force you to believe in some kind of frankencell in spite of the evidence against it in order to deny Him. Atheist believe science would destroy God but as man knowledge grows the evidence is getting stronger.

So let me get this straight....

The God that wants people to believe in Him, has somehow "outsmarted" the people who don't believe in Him, by forcing them to believe in something else? A frankencell, (whatever that is) you called it.

Am I getting this right?
 
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Life is the evidence as it requires a creator just like Windows 8 .

Windows 8 is a whole lot different from a universe.

Furthermore, there is evidence of the creators (developers) of Windows 8. These are real people with names and lives and real plans detailing how they programmed the software. It is also something that is possible to be replicated by other people with similar knowledge in the field of computer programming.

The universe or life or what ever you attribute to your God, has no evidence indicating a developer. There is no name attached to it. There are no plans as to how it works or was created. There is no one who can even come close to replicating a universe and so, nobody has any real understanding of how universes form or come to be.

So really, there is no evidence of a creator having created the universe or life. There is only people who believe there is one because it brings them comfort and because it is an idea that has been worked into human psychology for thousands of years.

But that doesn't make it so.
 
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