Flying Spaghetti Monster

[Colter]

So you still don´t understand the point.
Do you want to understand the point? I am asking sincerely, since I don´t want to waste my time.

Waste your time, a man dedicated to picking on religious people on the internet? Your time is already wasted before you barged into this conversation in search of an argument to buttress your hobby.

There is the point of the OP, that's my foundation in these discussions. if you have a point or motive to your descent then state it.

 

[quatona]

Waste your time, a man dedicated to picking on religious people on the internet? Your time is already wasted before you barged into this conversation in search of an argument to buttress your hobby.

Ok, so much for the personal insults.

There is the point of the OP, that's my foundation in these discussions. if you have a point or motive to your descent then state it.

The point of the OP is the validity of the FSM-analogy. In order to discuss the validity of the analogy you´d first have to understand it. All I have been doing here for quite some time is trying to explain it - apparently to no avail. Do you want to understand it, or do you want to keep responding before you have understood it?

 

[Loudmouth]

No, the FSM isn't real, Jesus is.

Where is your evidence for this claim?

 

[Loudmouth]

"Reason is the test of ridicule, not ridicule the test of truth." -Warburton, William

Do you not believe in the FSM because of negative emotions?

 

[Colter]

Ok, so much for the personal insults.


The point of the OP is the validity of the FSM-analogy. In order to discuss the validity of the analogy you´d first have to understand it. All I have been doing here for quite some time is trying to explain it - apparently to no avail. Do you want to understand it, or do you want to keep responding before you have understood it?

Insults? Oh, did you think you were on the forum to help others?

Sure, explain your point.

 

[quatona]

"Reason is the test of ridicule[...]"

And this is exactly what the FSM-analogy is asking for: A working test/method to distinguish ridiculous supernatural claims from valid supernatural claims.

 

[Loudmouth]

......And Atheist tend to think the claims of religious people are not real.

We tend to do that when people can't support their claims with evidence. That is an additional similarity between the FSM and claims about God.

 

[Colter]

Where is your evidence for this claim?

I have no evidence that will convince you beyond your customary stock arguments. In addition to my own relationship with Christ there are other evidences that are convincing to me.

 

[Loudmouth]

I have no evidence that will convince you beyond your customary stock arguments. In addition to my own relationship with Christ there are other evidences that are convincing to me.

We also have no evidence for the FSM that would convince you. Yet another similarity.

 

[Colter]

We tend to do that when people can't support their claims with evidence. That is an additional similarity between the FSM and claims about God.

Haven't we been here before? You do not desire to know God, your ego will not permit you to seek him at this time in your life, so he will not come to you. You are not ready yet, and you may never be. Someone who has been born of the spirit cannot adequately explain or convince a person of the spirit who has not yet been reborn of the spirit.

 

[Colter]

We also have no evidence for the FSM that would convince you. Yet another similarity.

That is the false premise that the OP explained, hence the creation of a straw man which appears to make a point.

 

[Loudmouth]

That is the false premise that the OP explained, hence the creation of a straw man which appears to make a point.

It isn't a false premise. We can present just as much evidence for the FSM as you can for God.

 

[Colter]

It isn't a false premise. We can present just as much evidence for the FSM as you can for God.

I didn't realize that, how many Spaghetti God followers do you have? Where are the churches? What sociological, cultural impact has the spaghetti God had?

 

[Loudmouth]

I didn't realize that, how many Spaghetti God followers do you have?

Popularity is not evidence.

 

[Colter]

Never mind, I found them. I didn't realize you were one of them having not seen the avatar thing before. I thought it was a spider of some sort.

Mocking the church:




Mocking religious people:

 

[PsychoSarah]

Never mind, I found them. I didn't realize you were one of them having not seen the avatar thing before. I thought it was a spider of some sort.

Mocking the church:




Mocking religious people:

So? In the end who really cares? Nothing is exempt from ridicule, and frankly, I hate how sensitive people can get about these sorts of jokes. And hey, at least they aren't showing you burning in hell and whatnot.

 

[FoxyRoxy]

I didn't realize that, how many Spaghetti God followers do you have? Where are the churches? What sociological, cultural impact has the spaghetti God had?

This is not the most constructive way to defend the faith, sir. Use care to avoid logical fallacies when presenting an argument. You've committed a few already:

Appeal to popularity
Appeal to consequence
Appeal to authority

 

[Colter]

And this is exactly what the FSM-analogy is asking for: A working test/method to distinguish ridiculous supernatural claims from valid supernatural claims.

Faith is the proof of religion, do you have faith in the Spaghetti God? If so what is the gospel of your God?

 

[Loudmouth]

Faith is the proof of religion,

Faith is a belief held in the absence of proof.

 

[Colter]

This is not the most constructive way to defend the faith, sir. Use care to avoid logical fallacies when presenting an argument. You've committed a few already:

Appeal to popularity
Appeal to consequence
Appeal to authority

They hide behind logic, it's the only place to talk to them.