Flat or round earth -The final experiment.

[Apple Sky]

Well, that explains... nothing.

It means that the sun traverses the sky & the earth is not orbiting the sun.

 

[trophy33]

It means that the sun traverses the sky & the earth is not orbiting the sun.

It only means that one of the several authors of the book of Enoch thought so, but its not true in reality. Its only an optical illusion.

 

[prodromos]

It means that the sun traverses the sky & the earth is not orbiting the sun.

The sun is always visible to millions of people at any moment in time. It does not disappear out through a gate to suddenly appear at another.

 

[d taylor]

The Hellenic Jews translated that passage into Greek in the former sense. Are you claiming they didn't know their own language?

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The Hebrew word talah means to hang, suspend, or support by actual contact. Prove from The Bible that word should be translated to mean hang from nothing. Which would be the only time talah (in The Bible) would be used, using this type of meaning

 

[Apple Sky]

The sun is always visible to millions of people at any moment in time. It does not disappear out through a gate to suddenly appear at another.

It does at night.

 

[trophy33]

It does at night.

Only because the place where you live rotates away from the Sun. The Sun does not go anywhere, but shines on other parts of the globe that rotated to be in its direction.

Have you never heard about time zones? Sometimes you simply say such nonsense like if you suddenly forgot everything about life.

 

[Apple Sky]

The Sun does not go anywhere, but shines on other parts of the globe that rotated to be in its direction.

Not according to Enoch.

 

[trophy33]

Not according to Enoch.

Enoch was wrong, then.

 

[Jipsah]

Enoch was wrong, then.

Everything in "Enoch's" "Book of Heavenly Luminaries" is a lie. Fiction. Made up from whole cloth. False. Has no relation to reality. Fantasy. And as it's generally held for as fact by fringies who have some delusional ax to grind (flying saucers, "ascended masters", evil godling "nephilim", psychic powers, and any other kind of woowoo rubbish one would care to name) or some wildly heterodox, if not altogether heretical, made up doctrine to defend. "Enoch" enthusiasts often use it as a basis for reinterpreting the entire Bible to suit whatever deranged cosmology they've imagined.

 

[prodromos]

The Hebrew word talah means to hang, suspend, or support by actual contact.

I've looked through many sources and not found what you claim, so you are going to have to provide more than simply your assertion that "by actual contact" is essential to its definition.

Prove from The Bible that word should be translated to mean hang from nothing. Which would be the only time talah (in The Bible) would be used, using this type of meaning

It would be difficult to prove either way since the word in this form only occurs once in the entire Old Testament. One would have to go beyond the Scriptures to find other examples of its use to confirm one way or the other.

 

[d taylor]

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Here is an example

 

[Phil G]

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Here is an example

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How does the meaning of the word ‘talah’ change from ‘hang’ to ‘supporteth upon fastenings’? And what are these fastenings from which the earth hangs? I’m just interested to know.

Job 26:7 should read
"He spreadeth out the North over the desolate' place (the abyss of waters), and supporteth the earth upon fastenings."

 

[d taylor]

How does the meaning of the word ‘talah’ change from ‘hang’ to ‘supporteth upon fastenings’? And what are these fastenings from which the earth hangs? I’m just interested to know.

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It is a second word in Job 26:7 that completes the point. Belimah wrongly translated "nothing" is the crucial word.

Translators appear to have derived it from the noun blee, signifying consumption or desolation, and the pronoun meh, who which what, but the meaning "nothing" drawn from these words, seems to be very far fetched.

Job 26:7 being the only place in the Bible where the word belimah occurs, it is, of course, difficult to test the meaning.

Deriving the noun belimah from the verb belem, to confine, restrain, or hold in, which is used in.
Psalm 32:9 Do not be like the horse or like the mule, Which have no understanding, Which must be harnessed(belem) with bit and bridle, Else they will not come near you.
and that belimah simply means "fastenings," or "supports," and this interpretation exactly agrees with what God asked Job a little farther on in Job 38:6 To what were its foundations fastened? Or who laid its cornerstone,

 

[Phil G]

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It is a second word in Job 26:7 that completes the point. Belimah wrongly translated "nothing" is the crucial word.

Translators appear to have derived it from the noun blee, signifying consumption or desolation, and the pronoun meh, who which what, but the meaning "nothing" drawn from these words, seems to be very far fetched.

Job 26:7 being the only place in the Bible where the word belimah occurs, it is, of course, difficult to test the meaning.

Deriving the noun belimah from the verb belem, to confine, restrain, or hold in, which is used in.
Psalm 32:9 Do not be like the horse or like the mule, Which have no understanding, Which must be harnessed(belem) with bit and bridle, Else they will not come near you.
and that belimah simply means "fastenings," or "supports," and this interpretation exactly agrees with what God asked Job a little farther on in Job 38:6 To what were its foundations fastened? Or who laid its cornerstone,

Have you a recognised trustworthy source explaining why all Bible versions are wrong on this? I’m unable to find any.

 

[d taylor]

Have you a recognised trustworthy source explaining why all Bible versions are wrong on this? I’m unable to find any.

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No there will be none, as all of theology accepts the earth is a globe. So why would they question Job 26:7 as to its translation.

 

[Phil G]

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No there will be none, as all of theology accepts the earth is a globe. So why would they question Job 26:7 as to its translation.

So all this is just based on your own opinion or the opinion of other flat earthers with no ancient Hebrew scholars to back it up?

 

[d taylor]

So all this is just based on your own opinion or the opinion of other flat earthers with no ancient Hebrew scholars to back it up?

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It really would not matter, you are going to believe what you believe.

 

[prodromos]

It really would not matter, you are going to believe what you believe.

Rather ironic, coming from you.

 

[Phil G]

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It really would not matter, you are going to believe what you believe.

I'll take that as a yes in answer to my question then. Enough said.

 

[d taylor]

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Does Job 26.7 confirm the earth is floating in outer space?​